Not By Works

But you can put me on record as saying you are not likely to hear the real gospel from a real Christian in a pub.

You have been refuted over and over ... even when you were Ralph.

You are right it does exist in scripture because.... at the point of justification a person is saved! DONE

When you can produce the Words of God that say my believing is me trying to save myself then I'll get on board with your religion.

He certainly did attack me and OSAS believers in general and he did more than simply bawl us out. He basically had a meltdown and went on bitter, angry rant which involved statements of condemnation towards me and OSAS believers in general, yet we are the big babies?

It all started on March 18th at 5:28 am when I jokingly asked, "what happened to Dennis the Menace?" (nickname for Judges1318). Prior to that we had not heard from him since March 2nd. Then on March 18th at 8:00 am, he responded with a series of bitter, hateful rants! Personally, I was shocked by his aggressive, personal attack on me and others in the OSAS camp (which up to that time was unusual for him) but his true colors emerged and have continued to shine through ever since.

When I originally asked, "what happened to Dennis the Menace?" I had a feeling he was lurking on Christian Chat and that my post would flush him out and it worked! 2 1/2 hours after I posted that question, he suddenly reappeared. I explained to him that I was merely joking around when I mentioned the name, “Dennis the Menace.” Prior to that, I once jokingly told him that 'Dennis the Menace' should be his avatar name and he even laughed about it, but this time, he became belligerent.

So there was no backbiting scheme of the devil involved here. I was simply joking around and he took it personal and became very angry. His endless, relentless attacks on OSAS believers is really getting ridiculous and is just plain juvenile.

And so the giver of the free flashlight is completely and utterly responsible to make sure he keeps it?

In the 'new' osas, Johnny still has the flashlight even if he tosses it aside, all the while thinking he still has it because it's a flashlight that never fails to shine.

We have all produced the words of God that state salvation is secure.. you do not accept scripture on this point so you are the one in error.

And don't tell me secure/saved as long as you continue to believe.. that is not in scripture either.
Justified >>> Done

I believe Ezekiel 37:1-14 gives a good picture of salvation.

you know you have no basis for your anti-biblical, despicable Jesus denying works gospel.

Because it illustrates the error of your 'new' osas theology.
You believe that there is NOTHING that can prevent the 'Christian' from being saved when Jesus comes back, not even a return to the bars in unbelief and a trampling on the blood of Christ.

'Believing' is an "anti-biblical, despicable Jesus denying works gospel".
Got it.

Oh, almost forgot....

If chastising immature believers for backstabbing and provoking others is having a bitter, angry meltdown, then Paul is guilty too.

"15If you bite and devour each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other. " - Galatians 5:15

"26Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other. " - Galatians 5:26

Only children think being corrected by someone is that person being wrong and out of line.
I called you out and, just like a child, you think I'm the one in the wrong.
Time to grow up into that which really counts, mmd.
Get off the milk and start eating the food of the mature.

'Only children think being corrected by someone is that person being wrong and out of line.
I called you out and, just like a child, you think I'm the one in the wrong.
Time to grow up into that which really counts, mmd.
Get off the milk and start eating the food of the mature.

And so the giver of the free flashlight is completely and utterly responsible to make sure he keeps it?

In the 'new' osas, Johnny still has the flashlight even if he tosses it aside, all the while thinking he still has it because it's a flashlight that never fails to shine.

My unsaved son, who doesn't want to be saved, and doesn't care at all about the gospel was approached by a drunk in a bar one time who explained to him 'your' gospel. Even my son could see what a joke it was. My son pointed out to him how he was as drunk as he was and the guy said it didn't matter because he could do whatever he wanted and still be saved.

And so the giver of the free flashlight is completely and utterly responsible to make sure he keeps it?

In the 'new' osas, Johnny still has the flashlight even if he tosses it aside, all the while thinking he still has it because it's a flashlight that never fails to shine.

My unsaved son, who doesn't want to be saved, and doesn't care at all about the gospel was approached by a drunk in a bar one time who explained to him 'your' gospel. Even my son could see what a joke it was. My son pointed out to him how he was as drunk as he was and the guy said it didn't matter because he could do whatever he wanted and still be saved.

Mental disorder huh?

a mental disorder is think your righteousness will save you, when Paul makes it clear no guts of righteousness we do will ever save us, we are saved by Gods mercy

you conditional salvationists are mocking God and his perfect righteous es and judgment and excusing your sin thinking it is not really all that sinful, like the pharisee, you think you are ok, when the law says your not only not ok, but in peril and Jesus came to save you and you say, that’s ok jesus, I got this.

our example here, yeah, he did not have faith in the master, if he did, he would shown the same mercy to this man that his master showed him. what a joke!

Once again, OSAS has taken the Biblical principle of unprofitable, reasonable, obligatory (yes, they're called the Ten Commandments, not the Ten Suggestions) service and corrupted it by twisting it into "salvation sinners earn by works"...not realizing that Romans 8:7 is clear that sinners can never be "subject to the law of God" even if they wanted to.