God, our food, and Coronavirus

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Dino246

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If Christ is God as you assert then your question seems symptomatic of the spiritual coronavirus.

Here is test question, "Who is the son of David?"
Respectfully, I don't see the relevance or either your comment or your question.
 

Blain

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sounds like a cat. i have found them to be very particular about what i put on counters or tables in our home, and they will not cease to re-arrange items placed thereupon, despite my instructions and protests.

still, they are family, in my house.
Yep the mind set of a cat is you don't own them they own you and god forbid you put a cup of water or something on the counter because their like not in my house and slaps it off the counter XD
 

Blik

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Well I think it came from a lab, but sin none the less.

There have always been the evil elite that cause turmoil. It's the ones in charge that ruin the food, not the general people.

People waste food for various reasons, but typically it boils down to produce going bad, disgusting processed food, or running out of time or no knowledge on what to do with it.

Dogs hold a high status with people, not God. Similar to cats in ancient Egypt. They accept any food! They might even eat their owner if they died. 🤔 So...I'm not sure I would consider the food part love.

I think the coronavirus resulted from sin. I'm not sure why God allowed it but I don't see it as the apocalypse. There have always been plagues.
And always the plagues has been cured by people turning to God. What if it could be true that part of this plague was caused by not feeding our bodies what they need? We know that in ancient times the rich ate bread that was only made of part of the wheat and the poor ate bread from the entire wheat. The poor still died of accidents and overwork, but while they lived they were robust and the rich were weak. We are told it was because of the food they ate. Now all our food is redone from it's natural state, even our meats are from animals that do not live and eat as nature created them to do. Doctors have found that food from those animals cause ill health, food from such as range fed cattle don't.

Even our worship is adjusted by men from what God asks of us. Every holiday has occult roots, and the church has lined up solidly against any roots from the OT. The Lord changed some OT teachings, the church changed many more teachings than the Lord did, tossing in everything that includes any physical action.

The gnosticsin taught only the spiritual was right, and that is what some of the new covenant people are teaching. The Lord tells us Ghostics were mistaken. The Lord tells us we are not to listen when people say as in Colossians 2:21 “Do not touch, do not taste, do not handle,” The Lord is a source of joy and often tells us to act in certain ways. The new covenant is not supposed to cancel these teachings. It is supposed to tell us to listen as the Lord teaches our spirit directly through the Holy Spirit.
 

Blain

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And always the plagues has been cured by people turning to God. What if it could be true that part of this plague was caused by not feeding our bodies what they need? We know that in ancient times the rich ate bread that was only made of part of the wheat and the poor ate bread from the entire wheat. The poor still died of accidents and overwork, but while they lived they were robust and the rich were weak. We are told it was because of the food they ate. Now all our food is redone from it's natural state, even our meats are from animals that do not live and eat as nature created them to do. Doctors have found that food from those animals cause ill health, food from such as range fed cattle don't.

Even our worship is adjusted by men from what God asks of us. Every holiday has occult roots, and the church has lined up solidly against any roots from the OT. The Lord changed some OT teachings, the church changed many more teachings than the Lord did, tossing in everything that includes any physical action.

The gnosticsin taught only the spiritual was right, and that is what some of the new covenant people are teaching. The Lord tells us Ghostics were mistaken. The Lord tells us we are not to listen when people say as in Colossians 2:21 “Do not touch, do not taste, do not handle,” The Lord is a source of joy and often tells us to act in certain ways. The new covenant is not supposed to cancel these teachings. It is supposed to tell us to listen as the Lord teaches our spirit directly through the Holy Spirit.
I would probably disagree with it being a sin but I do think it would be much better for everyone to be more old fashioned. I mean sure processed food is cheaper easier to make and you can get in in like five minutes but if anyone has actually studied the ingredients and the process in which it is made they would be horrified and might realize why they have certain health issues.

I know that in the new covanent the eating habits were no longer enforced but the benefit of them is still very valid. of course anything healthy now a days is going to be expensive it is ridiculous how expensive anything healthy is. I loved to go to this health food store and brose all the things there I in particular was wanting to find some blueberry juice and when I found it it was almost seven dollars for a tiny jar of it.
Or say unprocessed actual bee honey tenh dollars I kid you not
 

Blik

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I would probably disagree with it being a sin but I do think it would be much better for everyone to be more old fashioned. I mean sure processed food is cheaper easier to make and you can get in in like five minutes but if anyone has actually studied the ingredients and the process in which it is made they would be horrified and might realize why they have certain health issues.

I know that in the new covanent the eating habits were no longer enforced but the benefit of them is still very valid. of course anything healthy now a days is going to be expensive it is ridiculous how expensive anything healthy is. I loved to go to this health food store and brose all the things there I in particular was wanting to find some blueberry juice and when I found it it was almost seven dollars for a tiny jar of it.
Or say unprocessed actual bee honey tenh dollars I kid you not
If our food is part of the cause of this plague it isn't God punishing us for sin, it is a natural result of not feeding our bodies in the way our food and bodies were created to act together. God expresses a desire to protect us.

God gave the food instructions, not for the good of the body but of the soul. God tells us that what goes in our stomach is only eliminated, but what we put in our minds isn't. In ancient time they thought the heart carried thoughts. All the food they were to eat was from animals that didn't eat garbage, and symbolic of keeping themselves to only pure things, not garbage. Under the new covenant, God gives the Holy Spirit to deliver that message.
 

Blain

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If our food is part of the cause of this plague it isn't God punishing us for sin, it is a natural result of not feeding our bodies in the way our food and bodies were created to act together. God expresses a desire to protect us.

God gave the food instructions, not for the good of the body but of the soul. God tells us that what goes in our stomach is only eliminated, but what we put in our minds isn't. In ancient time they thought the heart carried thoughts. All the food they were to eat was from animals that didn't eat garbage, and symbolic of keeping themselves to only pure things, not garbage. Under the new covenant, God gives the Holy Spirit to deliver that message.
How do you know it is from the food we eat though? I mean food like this had been going for a long long time but this virus is a unique one never encountered before so if it was from the food then why hasn't this particular one showed up before?
 

Blik

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How do you know it is from the food we eat though? I mean food like this had been going for a long long time but this virus is a unique one never encountered before so if it was from the food then why hasn't this particular one showed up before?
I most certainly don't know it is from food. I would like for people with more knowledge than I have to consider it.

The only clue we have that has gone on before is the way scientist tell us our body reacts to a whole grain as opposed to only parts of the grain. But I don't think the world has had food quite as tampered with as it is now. Even our peanut butter isn't ground peanuts any more. Cornmeal isn't ground corn, but corn with parts of it taken out. Oils go through a process that is unbelievable to the untrained eye, not pressed.

I do know our food isn't the way God planned it for us. I know we have distorted God's word. I know God is in control. The rest is only ideas to be considered. We are in an emergency situation, time to think outside the box.
 

Blain

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I most certainly don't know it is from food. I would like for people with more knowledge than I have to consider it.

The only clue we have that has gone on before is the way scientist tell us our body reacts to a whole grain as opposed to only parts of the grain. But I don't think the world has had food quite as tampered with as it is now. Even our peanut butter isn't ground peanuts any more. Cornmeal isn't ground corn, but corn with parts of it taken out. Oils go through a process that is unbelievable to the untrained eye, not pressed.

I do know our food isn't the way God planned it for us. I know we have distorted God's word. I know God is in control. The rest is only ideas to be considered. We are in an emergency situation, time to think outside the box.
Ah I see. I agree it is true the food we eat is not at all how God intended it and science is pretty accurate when it comes to how the things we eat and drink affect our bodies in fact I would not be surpised if the reason cancer and other illness are so much more common these days is because of the way food is processed.

I mean when a person has a child it is not just their dna that is passed on but the well being and health of that person can have a major affect on the child as well for the rest of their lives. I mean back in the old days sure medicine was not near as good and the common cold was a major problem in the dark ages but they also didn't have the illnesses we have so abundantly.

And yes it is absolutely stomach turning to learn how much of the processed food is made I have seen documentaries I couldn't stomach it
 

Blik

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Ah I see. I agree it is true the food we eat is not at all how God intended it and science is pretty accurate when it comes to how the things we eat and drink affect our bodies in fact I would not be surpised if the reason cancer and other illness are so much more common these days is because of the way food is processed.

I mean when a person has a child it is not just their dna that is passed on but the well being and health of that person can have a major affect on the child as well for the rest of their lives. I mean back in the old days sure medicine was not near as good and the common cold was a major problem in the dark ages but they also didn't have the illnesses we have so abundantly.

And yes it is absolutely stomach turning to learn how much of the processed food is made I have seen documentaries I couldn't stomach it
Bless you, Blain. You are using your intelligence and reason with my thoughts, not just throwing them out with "it is ridiculous".

The Pharisees and Sadducees tossed what Christ said out because it threatened their position. Even if my ideas may well be in error, the way they are tossed is the same and probably for the same reason. Otherwise they would be treated with "i don't think so because".
 

Blain

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Bless you, Blain. You are using your intelligence and reason with my thoughts, not just throwing them out with "it is ridiculous".

The Pharisees and Sadducees tossed what Christ said out because it threatened their position. Even if my ideas may well be in error, the way they are tossed is the same and probably for the same reason. Otherwise they would be treated with "i don't think so because".
Well it doesn't do any good being in debates if you don't use logic and reason. If all we do is argue because of our own views and our own perception then we can never learn anything, and I like to learn in any way I can.
Besides your reasoning is not wrong it is a biblical valid point why do you think I was so impressed with you before? Like I said stay a rebel and be old fashioned