Is God Good?

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posthuman

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So it didn't matter that he died on the cross (was murdered) for sin?
You are alive today because He died to forgive you for accusing Him of murder.
 
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It is God who was crucified for you.
What are you new to Christianity?
But you and others say God doesn't cause people to sin or do evil. This was the worst sin ever committed ordained by God before the creation of the world.
 

posthuman

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But you and others say God doesn't cause people to sin or do evil. This was the worst sin ever committed ordained by God before the creation of the world.
It is exactly what they did to Him in Exodus 17:3 accusing Him of murder, like you are also doing.
 
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What "offer"? Where did God "offer" Adam "something that was forbidden"? chapter and verse.




He offered a choice if they obeyed the commandment they would live . The forbidden choice a will in subject to another kind of spirit was taken and they began to die . They lost the desire to do the will of the father by faith (no form) . No man can serve two masters.

God was not hiding in a literal way. He is not a man he has no form . Again his glory departed and will not re-appear under the Sun .

God is under no law that says he must bring him to bring mankind back to fellowship. Cain like Adam and Eve, mankind broke fellowship and the glory of God departed.






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It is exactly what they did to Him in Exodus 17:3 accusing Him of murder, like you are also doing.
Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit happens when you give Satan credit for God's doings. Are you saying Satan is the savior for providing Christ's death on the cross instead of God?
 

posthuman

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Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit happens when you give Satan credit for God's doings. Are you saying Satan is the savior for providing Christ's death on the cross instead of God?
When you accuse God of evil you blaspheme.
 
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When you accuse God of evil you blaspheme.
God cannot sin. But he caused evil and sin as judgment and for the higher good. If you say he does not do this, you give Satan credit for his doings.
 
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hope you don't stress over him Post -
he's either been really deceived by his home-church',
if he has one, or satan is pulling his chain,
or he is just playin' for his own entertainment,
which is of course quite common here...
either way, it's a very pitiful situation and prayer
is definitely needed...
 
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What we are saying is God cannot sin, because there is no other god he must obey. To deliberately kill Jesus is murder, but God is not bound by the same laws he provides for us.

“Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:” Acts 2:23 (KJV 1900)
He did not murder His Son. Please stop.
 
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when?

in Matthew 8:2, Matthew 9:18, Matthew 14:33, Matthew 15:25, Matthew 20:20, Matthew 28:17, Mark 5:6, John 9:38 and John 20:28 Jesus received worship without rebuking the people worshiping Him and not resisting them bowing down to Him.

He is called "Lord" a term of reverent worship over and over and over and over.


you keep saying Jesus resisted being worshiped, Garee, but i know of no place ever that this is true. i know of many places where He certainly did not rebuke those who bowed before Him or spoke to Him recognizing Him as God-unseen being made manifest & seen, an attitude of worship.

can you point me to any passage at all where Jesus did what you say He did?
when did He ever tell anyone bowing before Him to get up and worship God only?
He didn't -- and that is one of many proofs that He is I AM THAT I AM manifest in the flesh, the invisible made visible.
Jesus's whole life, every action was a parable doing the will of the father using the things seen to give us the eternal vision .

Without parables in that way Jesus the prophet, apostle spoke not hiding the gospel meaning from those who has no desire to search it out. They would as it seem rather glory in the things seen (corruption)

He told them in many ways even hiding making himself invisible to walk through a crowd that did desire to glory in his corrupted flesh and blood. Which he said profits for nothing.

I would think each of the verses you offered would have to be looked at in context of faith, the unseen understanding .

I repeated God is not a man in any way shape of form .He is invisible without beginning of spirit life or end.. It is why he is called God and not man .

Jesus refused to be worshipped the temporal by that in which the eyes see. Again he is not a man and neither could he be. God has no beginning.

Any of the work that the Son of man performed is not attributed to His flesh .The father worked in the Son to both will and do His good pleasure. The work is always two fold they never worked apart from the will of the father.

When Jesus would rebuke it was accredited to the father or bless. Again the power is never attributed to what they eyes see it must be mixed with faith the unseen eternal .. We walk by the unseen faith Just as did the Son of man.

The Lord not seen as father worked in the apostle Jesus giving him words to say .The power of the words no more came from the Son of man Jesus than that power that works in us, same power same kind of corrupted flesh that the power is not attributed to.

Blasphemy occurs if we were to have the Son of man stand in the holy place (faith) of our father in heavens who has not form

2 Corinthians 4:7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.

Not of the Son of man . God is not a man.

He did not accept worship as a creature seen .

The "I Am" made the Father visible . He and the father are one God always was

We learn from the father not seen by watching the work of the two unfold.

When accused of being Good Master that phrase was exclusively reserved for the unseen father.

Jesu rather than saying thank you well done to the eulogizers of the flesh that kneeled down as if God was a man.
The Son of man refused to stand in the Holy Place of faith .(the abomination of desolation).

Only God is good. Nothing about man being good. God is not a man.

No man can serve two Good teaching Masters . The temporal what the eyes see and the eternal the work of the Spirit that indwells the believe reveals .

Call no man on earth father, the Master Teacher and Lord.
 
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kaylagrl

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What we are saying is God cannot sin, because there is no other god he must obey. To deliberately kill Jesus is murder, but God is not bound by the same laws he provides for us.

“Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:” Acts 2:23 (KJV 1900)

So you're saying God murdered Himself... This is getting more interesting by the post!
 
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So you're saying God murdered Himself... This is getting more interesting by the post!
God cannot die. Jesus is God in trinity. He killed his human nature shedding his blood for the sins of the elect. But you say God does not cause people to sin, giving Satan his glory. Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit?
 

Grandpa

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Has anyone said "All the time"?

Romans 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.