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mailmandan

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Rosemaryx said:
I noticed Judges left out the part of Scripture where it says " Unless you believe in vain " and that what he left out was a very important part to make the whole text...
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Amen! Either we believe the gospel and are saved, unless we believed in vain - without cause or without effect, to no purpose. (y)
 
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mailmandan said:
Amen! Either we believe the gospel and are saved, unless we believed in vain - without cause or without effect, to no purpose. (y)
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You seem to be missing the fact that the Corinthians belief was in vain AFTER they had heard and received and took their stand on Paul's gospel of a risen savior and were saved. They lost the saving effect of the believing they had done in Paul's gospel when they then began to believe in a different gospel, the gospel of a savior that did not rise from the dead. Read it, it's all right there in 1 Corinthians 15.
 
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dcontroversal said:
You are so wilfully dense that you cannot grasp that the Corinthian church had some 15 errors/open sins, were identified as carnal, immature and needing correction, yet were still called SAVED, BRETHERN and identified as a New Testament Church......

You are so blinded by your rejection of truth that you will go to your end denying the foundational truths of the bible!!!!
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The believing they had done in Paul's gospel of a risen savior was in vain when they rejected his gospel that they got saved by and adopted the gospel of a dead savior. Read it. It's right there in the passage.
 
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star said:
I'm not "uneducated" about anything spiritual. I don't follow a "doctrine" either. I believe in the Word of God and it tells us we are saved, sealed and cannot be taken out of His Hands by anyone, anything. His Word also tells us a path to follow, guided by His Spirit and that Word also says if we slip, we have a High Priest who makes intercession for us. Salvation and fellowship and rewards are each separate matters.
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People who willingly go back to unbelief and refuse to come back in the time allotted by God will not inherit the kingdom of God.
There will be no unbelievers in the kingdom of God, plain and simple.
The new osas says there will be.
 
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star said:
You are calling my believing in eternal salvation provided by God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit erroneous?
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Yes, because you are believing incorrectly about what eternal salvation means.
It doesn't mean you can't lose it by going back to unbelief in this life.
It means the life the believer receives won't end, like the 'life' one received through the old Levitical system.
This is all explained in Hebrews.
Nothing there about eternal life meaning 'you can never lose it in this life'.
 
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BillG said:
Actually no I do not know what ....... Meant or means.
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It means you are quoting part of what someone said.
You insert the '...' where the words are that you are not quoting.
I rarely ever see people do that here, but I don't say anything about it.
As long as you use '...' for partial quotes you are not guilty of misquoting anybody.
 
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Judges1318 said:
The believing they had done in Paul's gospel of a risen savior was in vain when they rejected his gospel that they got saved by and adopted the gospel of a dead savior. Read it. It's right there in the passage.
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Listen dope, the context is belief in the resurrection - if there is no resurrection then faith in something that never happened would be in vain. Some among them were questioning the resurrection.
 
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Judges1318 said:
The believing they had done in Paul's gospel of a risen savior was in vain when they rejected his gospel that they got saved by and adopted the gospel of a dead savior. Read it. It's right there in the passage.
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You are an obstinate idiot......do not address me again....you are wrong, don't know what you are talking about and I am done wasting my time on an unbeliever that argues tooth and nail against the truth!
 
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Listen dope, the context is belief in the resurrection - if there is no resurrection then faith in something that never happened would be in vain. Some among them were questioning the resurrection.
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He is just like the other salvation losers....they absolutely deny context and truth because EVERYTHING is viewed through the idiotic false lense of a losable self maintained fraudulent salvation! I am done wasting my time on him...he would argue against the truth if Jesus stood in front of him with a message in 50 foot tall neon letters....yeah WILL ARGUE when he stands in the many group saying....but LORD LORD HAVE WE NOT DONE!
 
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azamzimtoti said:
...the context is belief in the resurrection - if there is no resurrection then faith in something that never happened would be in vain. Some among them were questioning the resurrection.
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Quite correct.
Paul also makes it clear that there is a condition for them being presently saved--that they are presently holding fast the original gospel he preached to them, the gospel of a risen savior:

1Now, brothers and sisters, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand. 2By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain." - 1 Corinthians 15:1-2

Or are you going to say that is 'not really' true and that if they don't hold firmly to the word Paul preached to them they are saved?
 
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G2RBeliever said:
Cheers,
i apologize for my anger yesterday,I'm very regretful that the pain I was suffering was directed at any here. 😢
The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak,please pray that I overcome the flesh in ALL my life!
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So you admit you’re a SINNER. Congratulations, you’re one step closer to achieving grace through faith in Jesus Christ.
 
Lightskin

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Judges1318 said:
Here it is again...

Hebrews 6 says you can't come back. The Galatians, the Corinthians, and Revelation 2 show us he gives space before he turns you over so you can't come back.
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You’re pitting Scripture against itself.
 
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