Catholicism vs Protestantism
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I've noticed that sometimes people will adopt an "all or nothing" style of thinking.
that thinking leads to the conclusion that a person must worship God completely and with full knowledge or that person is worshiping a false god.
sometimes a person engaged in this style of thinking perceives themselves to be taking a firm stand for the truth.
but the people of Athens and the larger Greek culture did have some knowledge and experience of God, else why does Paul quote their poets?
as you noted, Paul says,
"What therefore you worship in ignorance, this I announce to you."
Paul is going to announce to them the true God, and he says that's what they are already worshiping in ignorance.
granted, in addition to worshipping God, they were also worshipping false gods and had many misconceptions about what God wanted.
that thinking leads to the conclusion that a person must worship God completely and with full knowledge or that person is worshiping a false god.
sometimes a person engaged in this style of thinking perceives themselves to be taking a firm stand for the truth.
but the people of Athens and the larger Greek culture did have some knowledge and experience of God, else why does Paul quote their poets?
as you noted, Paul says,
"What therefore you worship in ignorance, this I announce to you."
Paul is going to announce to them the true God, and he says that's what they are already worshiping in ignorance.
granted, in addition to worshipping God, they were also worshipping false gods and had many misconceptions about what God wanted.
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There are about 23 Rites in the Catholic Church, the biggest of which is the Latin or Roman rite.
Thus you may find a church (congregation) called the xxxx Roman Catholic Church because it belongs to the Roman rite.
You may find a church (congregation) called Syro-Malabar Catholic Church or Coptic Catholic Church.
But they all belong to the Catholic Church with Pope Francis as head.
Many of these are churches that broke away from the Catholic Church at the Great Schism but have since returned.
They have different liturgical practices.
Thus you may find a church (congregation) called the xxxx Roman Catholic Church because it belongs to the Roman rite.
You may find a church (congregation) called Syro-Malabar Catholic Church or Coptic Catholic Church.
But they all belong to the Catholic Church with Pope Francis as head.
Many of these are churches that broke away from the Catholic Church at the Great Schism but have since returned.
They have different liturgical practices.
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That’s because his coming is with great signs and wonders and we have seen no pope do that.
I don’t doubt one of the pope’s will be the false prophet but the beast is entirely different who receives worship on account of the miracles the false prophet performs and the image of the beast he erects...
Revelation 13:12-15 NKJV
[12] And he exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence, and causes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. [13] He performs great signs, so that he even makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men. [14] And he deceives those who dwell on the earth by those signs which he was granted to do in the sight of the beast, telling those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the beast who was wounded by the sword and lived. [15] He was granted power to give breath to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak and cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed.
I don’t doubt one of the pope’s will be the false prophet but the beast is entirely different who receives worship on account of the miracles the false prophet performs and the image of the beast he erects...
Revelation 13:12-15 NKJV
[12] And he exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence, and causes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. [13] He performs great signs, so that he even makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men. [14] And he deceives those who dwell on the earth by those signs which he was granted to do in the sight of the beast, telling those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the beast who was wounded by the sword and lived. [15] He was granted power to give breath to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak and cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed.
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The Roman empire is the beast that lasted for 42 months (rev 13) or which is the same time, times and half a time (Daniel 7). The roman empire fell in 1204 AD and never recovered.
Anti-christ originally rose from the Roman Empire and was the Roman Emperor (from 49 to 27 BC) until Constantine the Great (around 330 AD) established the Roman Church and appointed the Roman Pontiff. At this time around 330AD the anti-christ transferred from being the Roman Emperor to being the Roman Pontiff and from 330AD all the way to today the Pontiff has been the antichrist.
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Anti-christ originally rose from the Roman Empire and was the Roman Emperor (from 49 to 27 BC) until Constantine the Great (around 330 AD) established the Roman Church and appointed the Roman Pontiff. At this time around 330AD the anti-christ transferred from being the Roman Emperor to being the Roman Pontiff and from 330AD all the way to today the Pontiff has been the antichrist.
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Great signs and wonders have been performed on behalf of Roman Catholic Church, with the Popes involved and claiming authority over it. Read everything at Wikipedia, it is truly remarkable. This is Fulfillment of Rev 13:13
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle_of_the_Sun
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle_of_the_Sun
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If one scripture appears to contradict another they should be harmonised.
The first thing is not to add to scripture as your did in post #1916.
Here is what i think.
Acts 17:22-23 shows that people can search and find God even though they do not know Jesus.
Jesus says in John 14:6: “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father, but by me."
Here I think Jesus is saying that no-one can know God as Father except through him. When we become Christians we become children of God (John 1:12). We become born of God (vs 13), brothers and sisters of Jesus.
The first thing is not to add to scripture as your did in post #1916.
Here is what i think.
Acts 17:22-23 shows that people can search and find God even though they do not know Jesus.
Jesus says in John 14:6: “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father, but by me."
Here I think Jesus is saying that no-one can know God as Father except through him. When we become Christians we become children of God (John 1:12). We become born of God (vs 13), brothers and sisters of Jesus.
