Calvinist Kitchen...stirring the pot

A text without a context is just a pretext...

you never saw any such thing, you can ask anyone here (but preacher) and they will tell you the same

No you do not have it

To be clear. I chose God because GOD TOOK ALL MY STRENGTH (The TAX collector had nothing left. He had no strength at all. Thats why he cried out.. in despair..

Please do not try to interpret my words. This is the second or third time you got it wrong.

we cannot do what God has commanded, including repent and believe.

There is one here who seems to want to get attention in anyway that they can. They do not seem interested in learning or discussing scripture just out for attention and making trouble. Maybe if we all ignore this person then it will put and end to this behavior.

To be fair in my head I honestly thought I was replying to someone else, I mean I was responding to your comment, but I thought someone else made it. I thought I was talking to a brother, I would not have thought lenna was a male name. LOL sorry about that sister.

Oh, she can ask me, she has full right to.

Yes, you "never taught" you chose God according to you, and I'm a "liar" well, except for this:



There are more. But the above is enough. You taught it, and I am no liar. You need to retire your name calling.

The way I see it, We chose to be saved, by placing our faith in the work of God.

That is not chosing God.

We are unable to even understand God until after we are saved, thus we have no capacity to chose God.

So it is clear, your choice is we choose God but he gives us strength. Got it.

There it is EG preacher posted it above.so you did teach it EG?..you chose God?

There it is EG preacher posted it above.so you did teach it EG?..you chose God?

Would be nice if calling me a liar stopped. But that may be too much to ask.

Everything I've said is true, all of it. There is no reason that I would lie about him, even given his calling me one over and again, to you, others, myself. Then bullying you simply for liking what I said? It has gotten out of control.

No matter what scripture you offer that clearly refute this dogma of Calvinism it does not matter, when one immerses themselves in a "system" it requires a move of God to remove the blinders that hold their eyes.

a system like for example, sin and death?

i think it always requires a move of God to remove blindness. if not for God, i wouldn't have eyes at all - let lone eyes that see

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No matter what scripture you offer that clearly refute this dogma of Calvinism it does not matter, when one immerses themselves in a "system" it requires a move of God to remove the blinders that hold their eyes.

a system like for example, sin and death?

i think it always requires a move of God to remove blindness. if not for God, i wouldn't have eyes at all - let lone eyes that see

One of the many things that I don't get about Calvinism. They use Ephesians. 2: 8-9. To try to make their point, that God only gives faith to some and not others. So it is God doing the gifting of faith, and no one can boast.

I see that differently. If God chose to give me faith and then for some reason He chose not give someone else a chance or faith then it looks like I would have something to boast about. It would mean he saw something in me that he wanted and chose me because I was somehow special or better than the person he chose not to give faith too.

God's grace is the gift through faith. So I cannot boast. I am not more worthy or special than anyone else so I cannot boast.

Let’s put in context


so as you can see in the conversation, I was taken out of context.

how could I say we have no capacity, then say later we have capacity

my words of choosing god was in context of Him asking If I chose based on my own strength



how could I possibly choose a god I never even knew

so no, he does not get a pass for taking me out of context.

why couldn't you boast that you have faith when someone else doesn't?
wouldn't the fact you were able to muster some up make you more special than someone who couldn't?

There is no context that does away with the truth of that text, except for your context, which is denial and eisegesis due to an aversion of God getting all the glory for what it clearly states.

Tell us all again how you get some of that glory, and take it away from God and Scripture? Insert what you did, and show us.