It is not a sin to lie to do what is right - but is a sin when done to do what is wrong

I believe the Bible reveals that there is both a right time to lie and a wrong time to lie. Here are some examples of situations in which it looks right to lie:
To save a life or lives. Think of when Rahab lied to protect the 2 spies who came to spy out Jericho. Think of when Elijah lied, when those (Syrians, I think) pursing his life, asked where "Elijah" was. Think of when Michael, David's wife, saved David's life, by putting an image in his bed. Think of the attempt of one of his sons to take over the kingdom - a time in which 2 of David's men were kept from being killed, by hiding in an empty well. Think of how the apostle Paul once escaped from persecutors, by being let out of the city - in a basket and via a window - I'm sure if anyone pursuing his life questioned that household about his whereabouts - they'd have been willing to lie about his whereabouts. Think of how Jesus said Lazarus was sleeping, when really - he was dead.
Here are some examples in which it was wrong to lie, since it was for the purpose of sin:
Think of Adam and Eve, who lied a number of times in the event in which they'd eaten from the forbidden tree. Think of Cain, who lied about the whereabouts of Abel, whom he'd murdered. Think of Herod, who told the wise men he was happy to hear the news of the birth of Jesus. Think of how lying about people in a damaging way - was forbidden by the 10 commandments. Think of how the Bible warns us against false prophets. Think of how the devil is said to be a liar - we can be absolutely certain all his purposes for lying are all evil and with wrong intentions.

"Think of how Jesus said Lazarus was sleeping, when really - he was dead."

Think of how Jesus said Lazarus was sleeping, when really - he was dead.

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read the NT. the term sleeping is used for believers who have died in this life but are waiting for eternal life when they shall all be raised from the dead

are you trying to find an excuse to lie about something?

I don't believe that Jesus lied. Who knows how these things are seen by God. He can easily raise anyone from the dead so to Him it's like sleep, I think that the Bible calls death "sleep" in many places because of resurrection.

No I'm not at all looking for an excuse to lie about anything. I just mean that I can see a need for it in some cases, like when people have evil intentions against us or others - whom I think we should prayerfully try to protect. However if one thinks it is a sin to lie in all cases - though I can't see it the way they do - I do see that God wants us all to obey Him in all matters. So a person must obey his or her conscience, as Corrie Ten Boom's family did, if they feel it is wrong to lie in all cases and aren't able to see that it is ok in some cases.

Or, those who lied did what we all do - rely on human methods to achieve what God could have done by being the Master of circumstances. Haman (Book of Esther) is about to commit genocide. A lie might have saved the Jews, but God just caused insomnia in a king. But I don't want to play the hero. I sometimes "rearrange" the truth for instance if my wife's feelings are going to get bashed. But I would never claim a lie to be good. Expedient maybe ... Good ... well ....

oh did you know Corrie Ten Boom? I don't think so

I was obviously joking, which is why I put the little smiling winky face.

I don't believe that Jesus lied. Who knows how these things are seen by God. He can easily raise anyone from the dead so to Him it's like sleep, I think that the Bible calls death "sleep" in many places because of resurrection.

Or, those who lied did what we all do - rely on human methods to achieve what God could have done by being the Master of circumstances. Haman (Book of Esther) is about to commit genocide. A lie might have saved the Jews, but God just caused insomnia in a king. But I don't want to play the hero. I sometimes "rearrange" the truth for instance if my wife's feelings are going to get bashed. But I would never claim a lie to be good. Expedient maybe ... Good ... well ....

No, I didn't personally know Corrie Ten Boom. But my mom, when I was a teenager - read the story to my family during lunch times. I remember she felt it was wrong to lie about the whereabouts of the Jews that were hiding in their house. And so she obeyed her conscience, which is what we all should do, if we know no better about what is right or wrong as to what should be done, according to what the Bible says on that subject. It is a sin to disobey one's conscience. But my conscience doesn't tell me that it is a sin, and I sincerely see it that way, according to what I see in the scriptures on that subject. So for me, it is not a sin to lie, in the right circumstances. Though NEVER

The bible calls death sleep only in the OT because that is the way God saved those who used the sacrificial system as God asked them to--for the atonement of their sin. When Christ came that promise of salvation was completed and perfected so in the NT death is not spoken of as sleep any longer, but the man crucified with Christ would be with him that day.

Many don't understand this concept, I think, in the scriptures. There's a huge difference between lying for the sake to do evil - and for the sake of doing what's right and good in a situation. And I have seen numbers of cases in the Bible in which righteous people lied for a good cause. But am also aware of cases where it was wrong to lie. It was wrong, for example - for Abraham to lie to Pharaoh, about Sarah being his sister. It's true she was his sister, but his saying this was for the purpose of hiding the fact that they were also husband and wife. He exposed her to dangers he was not right to expose her to in this case. But think of Jesus who told Martha that Lazarus was "sleeping." She and others thought He meant exactly that and no more! He wanted to hide the truth for the time being, but for a good, wholesome purpose - to teach them a more effective lesson about His ability to do miracles.

John 11:11-14

11 These things said he: and after that he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep.

12 Then said his disciples, Lord, if he sleep, he shall do well.

13 Howbeit Jesus spake of his death: but they thought that he had spoken of taking of rest in sleep.

14 Then said Jesus unto them plainly, Lazarus is dead.
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The bible calls death sleep only in the OT because that is the way God saved those who used the sacrificial system as God asked them to--for the atonement of their sin. When Christ came that promise of salvation was completed and perfected so in the NT death is not spoken of as sleep any longer, but the man crucified with Christ would be with him that day.

I agree with what you have said, but judge that Sarah was not in danger. Had the matter run its natural course, Sarha would have been wife of a king, Abraham would have been bestowed with gifts and a direct connection to the royal house, and Pharoah would have got a desired woman. The danger was to God. Once Sarah was "taken", God would not have been able to fulfill His Promise. Although He had not yet said it, His immutable council was that Sarah would carry the line of both Isaac and Jesus FROM Abraham - not an Egyptian. The attack is always on the "seed of the woman". Egyptians come from Ham (Ps.105:23 etc.). Ham's seed was cursed to serve. His line could never bring forth kings.

As to our Lord saying that Lazarus "slept", I judge that He did not lie in the slightest. He alone could use that term for death since He:

1. had the power to lay down His own life AND take it up again (Jn.10:17-18)
2. has the power to resurrect men (1st Cor.15:45)
3. has power over death (Rev.1:18)

That is, since all men will be resurrected (1st Cot.15:22), God may use the term "sleep" - for they will wake. If there was no resurrection then we could discuss our Lord misleading us. But we have another bit of information. In John 11:14, "Then said Jesus unto them plainly, Lazarus is dead", the word "plainly" does not imply a correction from what was false. Its meaning is that Jesus spoke with "boldness" or "bluntly" (Strong's Greek & Hebrew Dictionary). It would seem from this word that "asleep" is a true term designed to comfort. I judge that our Lord reveals death as sleep as a true reflection of the man's condition, and this is meant to be to our comfort.

Notwithstanding this, I see your point. My point was that IF ASKED, we must, at all times, be truthful. And if the truth is to cause hardship, we must leave this in God's hands. Needless to say, I myself get caught sometimes "adjusting the truth".

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Also, think of how Jesus purposely used parables when teaching the crowds of people, so that only those who sincerely sought for God - would be enabled to understand them. Parables are stories with hidden meanings. Jesus explained the parables to His disciples, but wouldn't explain them to the general crowds. Something similar today, is the word, "Jargon." Organisations have terms that those outside of their organisations don't understand. Also slang, which not all people can understand correctly.

Matt 13:34-35

34 All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spake he not unto them:

35 That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world.
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