Why do Catholics receive so much hate???

its probably somethign to do with the catholic church pronouncing anathemas on anyone who isnt catholic. I think it goes both ways as certainly if I tried to discuss anything biblical on a catholic forum I would probably soon reach an impasse if I said anything contrary to what the current Pope pronounces. They are a very staunch church that doesnt like to be crossed with centuries and centuries of man made traditon it isnt easy to speak up and say hold on thats actually not in the Bible if you belong to the catholic church.

Thats why so many ex-catholics had to leave and probably hold a bit of a grudge towards it.

Yes you did and you better read what you really say. You did suggest me and were not speaking generally, You said in response to me not in a general since:


:If so then you have a huge misunderstanding of Catholic teaching.
Where did u get that idea from anyway?"

post 95 response to you.

FYI the thread title says "Why do catholic receive so much hate???"

come on you have a bias that all hate catholics . YOU stated the very thread on that assumption. So play games else where guy. LOL

Matthew 7:13 New King James Version (NKJV)
The Narrow Way
13 “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it.


The entire Bible, and especially the New Testament, says purgatory is a damnable heresy. It says that Jesus Christ's Sacrifice is insufficient to pay for ALL sin, and that someone can pay for their sin by themselves in purgatory. And WORSE, it says that MONEY can lessen a person's time paying for their sin in purgatory.

Just disgusting!
I would have to quote the whole Bible to document that Salvation, and the payment for our sin debt is by Grace through faith alone in Christ alone.

You would do well to meditate on Simon the Sorcerer, who ALSO professed to believe.

Acts 8:18-22 New King James Version (NKJV)
18 And when Simon saw that through the laying on of the apostles’ hands the Holy Spirit was given, he offered them money, 19 saying, “Give me this power also, that anyone on whom I lay hands may receive the Holy Spirit.”
20 But Peter said to him, “Your money perish with you, because you thought that the gift of God could be purchased with money! 21 You have neither part nor portion in this matter, for your heart is not right in the sight of God. 22 Repent therefore of this your wickedness, and pray God if perhaps the thought of your heart may be forgiven you.

Well now I can't exactly give you book, chapter and verse to some of these doctrines because they aren't in the Bible. The Bible doesn't say "if you try to pay to get your loved one into heaven, that's wrong" because that was an invention after the Bible age along with other Catholic false doctrines. The Bible says there is one mediator between God and man, it's not the pope and it's not a priest/ preacher. Jesus is our high priest. The Bible says once you pass away, you're gone. There is no holding place. No where does the Bible say Mary was a virgin for her entire life. Not that that is an issue of salvation, but it's simply false doctrine. If you honestly want to know then people here are answering your question. The Bible doesn't say abortion is wrong, but we know that it is. Just because the specific word isn't used doesn't means it's still wrong, or false teaching.

You started this thread under a false assumption that those who do not agree with the RCC doctrine is hating them. You initial opening here morphed into more of a chastisement of those who you think hate catholics. As this thread progressed and you were even called on it from another member on page 2
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Subhumanoidal said:
If i understand this right you consider yourself a Catholic, but don't feel it's fair to be seen as being in line with the most common and predominant aspects of being a Catholic?

to which you denied to his understanding. Ok fair enough, however, as the thread posting continued you are more supportive of RCC.

I know you are referring to transubstantiation, but the re-sacrificing of Christ in the Mass introduces 'another Jesus' to our faith...one that can't save.

his question was not what i said transubstantiation I did not say send anyone to hell LOL

@PC123 Now are you seeing what I meant by purity spiralling?

Which is better for Christianity?
Unity with some error?
Or infighting with everyone thinking they're correct about everything?

Sometimes I think freedom is fool's gold.

You conveniently overlooked post 86.

No, the scripture is teaching that the ones teaching the false gospel are the ones under condemnation. All men are under condemnation until they receive forgiveness by grace. Ephesians 2:8-9 are quite specific on the point.

I am confident the the bible teaches a genuine gospel message. Men my corrupt the gospel but the bible is how the Holy Spirit brings men to a genuine saving knowledge of Christ. John 16:8-11 gives ample teaching of how the Holy Spirit brings men to Christ.

It's not about religion it's about coming to salvation in Christ and no other.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

"You" was not mentioned... "Serve God or mammon" was to quote teaching of Jesus from the Bible that you asked "where is it in the Bible?", not directed towards any person, it was a quote, referring to paying for forgiveness certificates... Duskey isn't that kind of person to resort to personal attacks... You're on a journey with God just like all of us. There's no "us vs them" here, well maybe for some, but ignore such people that is the best cure. Btw, I'd like to note, not all of us talking with you are Protestants. Some of us are non denominational.

1 Corinthians 5:6 (NASB) Your boasting is not good. Do you not know that a little leaven leavens the whole lump of dough?

When you speak of 'unity', do you mean 'getting along just to get along', or unity that is united in God's Truth?

I watched a documentary just recently about the church pedophilia in the Philippines.
The RCC makes it so difficult, almost impossible, for the victims to get justice.
They have powerful friends and release the offending priests, and as everywhere else, they do not ban them from serving but just move them around from diocese to diocese where they find new victims to scar them for life and in many cases drive them away from God. Pedophilia and rape are two crimes with insanely high rate of reoffending, these people rarely rehabilitate. Yet the church puts the vulnerable ones at risk. They did not even bother to establish some kind of decree, that a priest will never be alone with kids, to prevent this from occurring.
And also so many raped nuns, that were then forced to abort!...
It's so terrible, it is true that such people appear in every church institution, but the difference is that in most churches there is outrage and they lose their position when a scandal appears. But in RCC the believers aren't holding them accountable, the victims are persecuted and silenced, and offenders keep operating. What does God think about that?
It's similar in the Orthodox church, the offenders continue to operate, but the rate of offending is a lot less than the scandalous amounts in RCC, most likely because their priests must marry before receiving their position. So, the RCC is even more guilty in this, because the Scripture says that priests are to marry, and I will quote the Bible here so @PC123 can read and decide for himself:

1 Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.

1 Timothy 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;

Titus 1:5 For this cause left I thee in Crete, that thou shouldest set in order the things that are wanting, and ordain elders in every city, [basically establishing dioceses] as I had appointed thee: 6 If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly.

This is because a priest presides over the congregation. He must be example to the sheep entrusted to him. So he must also have an exemplary marriage and family. It is not fit for an unmarried person to give advice to the crowd about godly marriage or raising a family.

This is why I'm truly torn. On the one hand I firmly believe that heresy is bad and must be dealt with. On the other hand, I know that if everyone just splits off and forms their own church because they disagree with any given thing, that would be just as bad. So I don't know. "United in God's Truth" sounds like we'll have a million churches of 1 person each. On the other hand, it's pretty hard to unite under a Pope Francis who runs around talking about how Jesus isn't the only way to God and covers up pedophilia.

One thing I do know, is that as regular Christian lay people, we ought to be loving and patient with each other - recognizing that we don't all have to have the exact same views to be on the same team. Let's save the warfare for the actual enemy instead of fighting with each other all the time. (yeah, I'm speaking to myself as much as to anyone else on that. I'm guilty as anyone else.)

Welcome to the forum, im also not a Catholic. I do appreciate the many positive things they have done, such as evangelize most of the Christianized world. If it wasnt for the NORTHERN CRUSADE the Scandinavian countries wouldnt have been reached. Granted they later converted to Lutheranism, but the point remains. They heard of Jesus originally because of that, before that they were in paganism. I'll take Catholicism over paganism any day.

I agree with you that praying to saints and Mary is a MAJOR concern, for me its the main concern actually, the problem is the Bible as far as I know never specificiially forbids praying to anyone other than God, but if it does, I wish someone would bring the verse up. I havent found it yet.

My view is: Praying to Mary is equivelant to praying to a coffee mug, same results. (I do believe that Mary is in heaven obviously. I just dont believe that she is the one we should pray to.

I would also say God knows the hearts of men and its GOD who saves, not our theology or getting our ducks all lined up in a row. So God can save anyone He wants, and there have definately been some awesome catholics, like Erasmus, Mother Teresa etc. Even Luther and Calvin were catholics before they started to protest!

Dont get discouraged when folks get fired up on the internet.

If Catholics receive hate, the person hating them is not acting as Christ told them to act.

However, Catholics have added to scripture over and over, and that is not an accepted way to act by any human and the Pope and that church is made up of humans. We are told what to do about false prophets.

No. It is 'faults' to one another, not 'sins'. παραπτωματα (James 5:16) is not αμαρτιας (1 John 1:9).

"Auricular Confession" is a Roman Catholic doctrine.

http://aloha.net/~mikesch/indulg.htm

https://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/dictionary/index.cfm?id=32029

http://www.justforcatholics.org/a23.htm

You are quite mistaken. Yet, it is because you do not understand their own speech (language) as given in Canon Law, in Papal Bulls, Council of Trent, Vatican II &c.