Calvinist Kitchen...stirring the pot

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I’m not here to satisfy what you determine of me.
You sure do spend an exponential amount of time talking about yourself and the moment God supposedly enlightened you for you not trying to satisfy anyone. 🤮
 
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You said heart knowledge and then you said mind. You didn’t say both, you said one one time and the other another time.

Two different experiences never intertwining them, but now you’re trying to do so because you got tripped up on your lies.

You must’ve been pre-destined to get tripped up over your own lies.

No I did not...you are the one telling a lie,...show me where I said it please?

I already explained what I meant,only you continue to insist that I have told a lie.
 
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You sure do spend an exponential amount of time talking about yourself and the moment God supposedly enlightened you for you not trying to satisfy anyone. 🤮

I have no idea what you are talking about...all I see from you are constant accusations against me....are you having a bad day..
 
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This is so wrong ... tell me why did Paul go to the Synagogue...

Tell me how does a person reason?

Then Paul, as his custom was, went in to them, and for three Sabbaths reasoned with them from the Scriptures,
Acts 17:2

So tell me why did Paul even bother, you think you were smarter than him?

What on earth are you talking about?....your at it again....your own human understanding,seriously your post makes no sense to me....
 
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What on earth are you talking about?....your at it again....your own human understanding,seriously your post makes no sense to me....
Well that states a lot right there.

You keep on going against human understanding and yet Paul reasoned with people at the synagogue.

Umm.............. that would be he was engaging their human understanding!!!!!
 
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Well that states a lot right there.

You keep on going against human understanding and yet Paul reasoned with people at the synagogue.

Umm.............. that would be he was engaging their human understanding!!!!!

But you aren’t Paul.....oh dear.....you really aren’t understanding.
 
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You said heart knowledge and then you said mind. You didn’t say both, you said one one time and the other another time.

Two different experiences never intertwining them, but now you’re trying to do so because you got tripped up on your lies.

You must’ve been pre-destined to get tripped up over your own lies.


I explained what I meant,God brought Jesus into my mind...more than that,but not prepared to discuss...then He testified to my heart/ spirit that I was His Child...

Stop making nasty accusations about me....that are untrue.......
 
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Funny, yet sad some believe it is saying that.

Calvinism is more sinister the more I look into it. The devastating effects of fatalism can be seen in places like India, where many believe in hinduism, which, along with islam and calvinism believe in predestination of all things.
A belief like that is guaranteed to breed complacency and in the case of Calvinism, fear that you may not be one of the elect, but one of the deceived.

To eliminate the free will of man is to eliminate genuine love for God and human responsibility. I agree with Justin Martyr on that one.
I would think that Hinduism, which, along with Islam has a different foundation than what you Calvinism (Christianity ).

Calling free will , as eliminating the need to get under the "hearing of faith" (our understanding of a God not seen) Him giving us his willful power to beleive the free will to perform. That power was usurped by a creature that ended up getting its legs cut off. , Mankind violated the loving law "Thou shalt not". By subjecting their will to another as that seen. No faith needed. .

Looking at Luke 18:8 .Makes me wonder when he comes on the last day will he find faith or an experience like the fall?

Free will was designed to be used in believing God not seen. The law of faith. The will of mankind did not evolve from a blob as if it was a blank check no signature needed do your own thing. .The will came with a signature (you shall surely die. )

That gifted will was discarded in the garden. . . the glory of God departed Man became a slave to the things seen .

1 John 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

By giving the will of the Creator over to a creature that has form it took away the power to do the will of the Creator .His glory departed.

Mankind gave up free will of doing the pleasure of His faithful Creator, not seen. Gave it over to do the will of a creature, seen.

God's genuine love is shown in his mercy . He is not merciless. That would violate his own principle. He will not be found guilty of no mercy . There would be no way to show his work of grace triumphs over judgment .

In that way eternal sufferings "no mercy" is not a biblical doctrine.

Some have been freely given the grace that came from the Father and Sons labor of love. Others will not rise and receive a new incorruptible bodies.

The glory of God having returned in the new heavens and earth.( Revelation 21) The former things of this life will not come to our memories. The sufferings of hell. . . the wage of sin experienced in these corrupted earthen bodies. . . it is left behind returning to dust . And death the letter of the law is cast into the lake of fire. Never to rise . .and declare . . "Thou shall surely die"

James 2:13 For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.

Two kinds of Mercy. Mercy seasoned with grace, The works of Gods. . mercy. The other the sufferings of hell. . the first death by suffering has ended .

The flesh of the unbeliever returns to the dust and the temporal spirit of judgement returns to the father of all spirit life.

Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
 
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But you aren’t Paul.....oh dear.....
No I am not,

but I know he did NOT teach the following which someone has obviously put in your "heart" (whatever that means) and you have spent no time reasoning through it in the light of scripture as a good Berean should.


T. People cannot respond to the power of the message of the Gospel
U. God bestows His grace only on those He has chosen and denies others His grace
L. He forces His grace on people and drags them to salvation by regenerating them first
I. Jesus died only for some
P. One must PROVE their faith by preserving
 
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No I am not,

but I know he did NOT teach the following which someone has obviously put in your "heart" (whatever that means) and you have spent no time reasoning through it in the light of scripture as a good Berean should.


T. People cannot respond to the power of the message of the Gospel
U. God bestows His grace only on those He has chosen and denies others His grace
L. He forces His grace on people and drags them to salvation by regenerating them first
I. Jesus died only for some
P. One must PROVE their faith by preserving


I have posted scripture on it yesterday,you dismissed it....I refuse to flog a dead horse....you are far to intrenched in what you believe......

I believe what I have received and have backed it up with scripture...you then say it doesn’t mean that or you’ve interpreted it wrong.....

NO I haven’t and you will never get me to believe your teaching....because it doesn’t line up with scripture and it’s true meaning......

God lives in my heart/ spirit.
 
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No I did not...you are the one telling a lie,...show me where I said it please?

I already explained what I meant,only you continue to insist that I have told a lie.
You’re certifiable.
 
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I have no idea what you are talking about...all I see from you are constant accusations against me....are you having a bad day..
Every day is an absolutely great day for me. It’s been pre-destined to be that way.
 
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If man dies twice, it was not appointed by God.

27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
Exactly.

I would offer, men once (no double jeopardy). Then the judgment of the judge. . . the letter of the law "death" . It will not rise in the new timeless order . The second death. Death of death itself. Making way for the new light of "eternal life".

Romans 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter

Revelation 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

Hell the sufferings of these bodies of death .Yoked with Christ the burden is lighter.

Not the second death of man. No condemnation to those in Christ.
 
Funny, yet sad some believe it is saying that.

Calvinism is more sinister the more I look into it. The devastating effects of fatalism can be seen in places like India, where many believe in hinduism, which, along with islam and calvinism believe in predestination of all things.
A belief like that is guaranteed to breed complacency and in the case of Calvinism, fear that you may not be one of the elect, but one of the deceived.

To eliminate the free will of man is to eliminate genuine love for God and human responsibility. I agree with Justin Martyr on that one.
Free will does not exist except in the mind of carnal philosophies.
Self will does exist and men are bound under the reigning power of sin.
You do not understand the difference of an imperfect non personal fatalism, and God determining what will come to pass, you need to keep looking.
 
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Free will does not exist except in the mind of carnal philosophies.
Self will does exist and men are bound under the reigning power of sin.
You do not understand the difference of an imperfect non personal fatalism, and God determining what will come to pass, you need to keep looking.

Amen!...,
 
If any man ends up in hell, he's going to a place never intended for him.

Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
Multitudes will end up there, by God's command.God has always had hell in view for the reprobate .
It was always the destination of the unsaved.
 
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Again,nothing to back your lie up about me........just the usual barrage of abuse...keep it up...it has no impact on me.
I refuse to bat the crap back at yaaa.
Your posts speak for themselves. One post you said God entered your heart and then in another post you said God entered your mind. Like I said, you’re either certifiable, or a troll or both.
 
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