How old is our creation really?

Then you should see the broader picture and the entire context of where this topic is evolving to
The Bible does teach of a young creation. And it teaches an entire different story then what the old model is trying to teach us.
The old model says hydrogen and helium exploded and formed all matter and space. The Bible says God spoke it into being.

If we would create a matrix where our virtual programs or physical AI becomes self aware, we also “spoke” that into existence.
We have been placed on this earth by instant events. There were gradual changes terrascaping this earth, but there were no gradual changes in creating life. Fish, birds, mammals, humans, fall, predators, death. It was not so gradual but abrupt changes reshaping the biology of this earth.

It does say, you're the one saying God is a liar ..


It is all in your face .. How is a dead almond stick that buds , flowers, produces ripe olives sometime during overnite and told that it would happen to someone who believes God is not relevant to creation , you're nuts !!! The rod was dead and it takes years for an almond tree to mature and began producing almonds to begin with, but a dead tree ? You tell me, can a dead anything produce ? ... You're nuts if you can't make the connection .. God called and spoke the natural creation into being from the supernatural existence And you're blind and faithless if you refuse see supernatural creation .. Please take your red grading pencil then mark all the scripture you grade untrue by your standards then throw your worthless bible in the trash if it has even one red mark ..

Here's another question . Why did Jesus speak in parables to the people sometimes ? Because some truths require keys and must me revealed in spirit by Spirit .. And that's why you see evidence like soft dino tissue right in your face but you can't face it , you love your lies .. Your business, but why try to convince your unbiblical secular beliefs among Christians ? Are you needing to impress and commit spiritual adultery with young Christians, are you wanting to shipwreck their faith when you can't even answer all the questions yourself .. You ain't God but you could hear God if you had ears to hear . You don't even question your gods
Psalm 74 ?, maybe you need to read it yourself ''a few hundred times''
And you must seek if you want to find .. 2 It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.
6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.

Then you should see the broader picture and the entire context of where this topic is evolving to
The Bible does teach of a young creation. And it teaches an entire different story then what the old model is trying to teach us.
The old model says hydrogen and helium exploded and formed all matter and space. The Bible says God spoke it into being.

If we would create a matrix where our virtual programs or physical AI becomes self aware, we also “spoke” that into existence.
We have been placed on this earth by instant events. There were gradual changes terrascaping this earth, but there were no gradual changes in creating life. Fish, birds, mammals, humans, fall, predators, death. It was not so gradual but abrupt changes reshaping the biology of this earth.

The fact is we don't know. It says in Genesis that God created the heavens and the earth and it was without form and void. Nowhere does it say how long it was without form and void. It could have been a year, 10 years, 100 years, a 1,000 years. All we can do is say that from Adam and Eve it is so many years old.

Then the question remains: why would God take eons? If He speaks something into being, it’s there very instant. It lasts eons but when spoken it’s very instant.
We as humans are not that old either. If the evolutionairy model is wrong we should really start asking where we truly came from.

Then the question remains: why would God take eons? If He speaks something into being, it’s there very instant. It lasts eons but when spoken it’s very instant.
We as humans are not that old either. If the evolutionairy model is wrong we should really start asking where we truly came from.

Then the question remains: why would God take eons? If He speaks something into being, it’s there very instant. It lasts eons but when spoken it’s very instant.
We as humans are not that old either. If the evolutionairy model is wrong we should really start asking where we truly came from.

Still don't know where the connection is to what I said.

You said we don’t know how old this creation is and I replied why would it take billions of years for God to create a human in His image?
If you still don’t understand it, this topic is beyond your comprehention. My excuses if this comes out blunt.

I never said anything about God creating a human in his image taking billions of years.

I said that!!! You said we don’t know how old creation is and I got deeper into that.
But it’s ok. I have no time to nuanciate one liners.
Have a pleasant day.

Why? Because that’s what it’s based off of for us lol.

But you don't believe Gen 1-11 is literal .... but no, what was given for the days were not the sun and moon...

Obviously I don’t and that’s what I said. Part of the evidence is that it uses a 24 hour day model before their is even a 24 hour day. Before there is even a sun.

Exactly. Just like those, the story of genesis 1-11 is clearly wrote mythologically. So we can believe 100% of the story without thinking it’s 100% literal.

As stated before I mentioned the idea that I may have to stop responding. I now know for sure I have to stop. I would be a full to continue to try to help y’all understand the basics of all science and how to understand textual analysis and literary writing styles. I thought as the conversation went further, some kind of light would go off in someone’s head but it’s getting darker and emptier.

So the best thing I can do with my time is simply keep creating posts and linking it to scholars and scientific journals. Then I’ll debate a bit on those specific posts with a few people and then ignore it. My goal is not to convince the few stuck i their 1300s scientific views but provide a way for others who want to seek the truth a doorway to finding those that will help. I’m thankful that so far 8 people have reached out to me on BL from this site who read these forums because they believe that’s what true as well.

You might work on your reading comprehension skills since the evening and the morning was used as model, not a 24 hour day. However, your inability to form any cognitive association between the advent of the visible light (morning) shined in the darkness (evening) tends to reveal your acknowledgement as you stated "you would think that some kind of light would go off in someone’s head but it’s getting darker and emptier." You can still have hope. I was going to say something but since you looked inside yourself to find the kingdom of God at least you still have hope after examining yourself . Don't lose hope,

And yet you claim to comprehend how they measured 9 billions years before the solar system used to measure a year ever came into existence. And when you look at all those galaxy's and other places they can see light years away just remember that they are not photographs but artistic impressions based upon their interpretation of the data.

As stated before I mentioned the idea that I may have to stop responding. I now know for sure I have to stop. I would be a full to continue to try to help y’all understand the basics of all science and how to understand textual analysis and literary writing styles. I thought as the conversation went further, some kind of light would go off in someone’s head but it’s getting darker and emptier.

So the best thing I can do with my time is simply keep creating posts and linking it to scholars and scientific journals. Then I’ll debate a bit on those specific posts with a few people and then ignore it. My goal is not to convince the few stuck i their 1300s scientific views but provide a way for others who want to seek the truth a doorway to finding those that will help. I’m thankful that so far 8 people have reached out to me on BL from this site who read these forums because they believe that’s what true as well.

Practicly each picture of space is photoshopped by image stacking. When we look at a picture of a galaxy far away, those are multpile pictures stacked as one.

I am sure you have to stop because with the facts hitting you on the bee-hind everyday it is overwhelming

Obviously I don’t and that’s what I said. Part of the evidence is that it uses a 24 hour day model before their is even a 24 hour day. Before there is even a sun.

If you take it literal then this means you believe this.

God hovered above a ball of water that was not frozen and was already there before anything was created. It never says he created it, and so this water was there forever before the sun was around and was still in its liquid form. He then created everything in 24 hour segments before there was even a sun for half of it. He made angiosperms before conifers. You get to man. He creates a pile of mud , a golem just like in many Mesopotamian tales, and breathes life into it ( apparently this spiritual being still has a mouth, lungs, and nostrils ). This golem comes alive on the sixth day and god brings every animal in existence ( millions and millions and millions of them ) before Adam to see which one would be a good mate for him and turns out none of them works and so God cuts them man in half and the other half becomes a woman. Despite being immortal, they still eat from a tree that gives immortal life and despite being immortal they still eat food. Then a talking snake tricks them. Then more invisible flying beings comes down to the flat earth that the sun revolves around (not a spherical earth rotating around the sun) and sleeps with the woman ( or probably rapes them all) and then at some point God opens up the space dome protecting the flat earth and covers it with miles and miles of water. Then after this, everyone commits incest for the second time and are amazing that now light is refracted as rainbows unlike before. While all of this happening, apparently there is a species of fire breathing multi headed sea dragons in the ocean and one is Godzilla sized that God battles and throw it’s corpse across the earth. Then you get all the way to modern us and we live on a flat earth protecting us from space water by a dome and there is no science to weather. God makes it rain or makes it change season. It takes God to do it because we are the center of the universe and the sun moves around us.