Lennon, Marxism, and Today

well theres competing ideologies, far right has fascist regimes which are equally as oppressive.
most govts lean one way or the other, none are ever really centred. If they were truly centred both sides would work together or it would be a monarchy or theocracy.

Then you get the people worried about NWO new world order one world govt. Ecumenism which could mean shock horror, protestants and catholics together.

It is a much of a muchness.

I am trying to sift through political parties at the moment figuring out which one to vote or not vote for. Theres about ten of them. Or maybe just not vote. although in nz women were the first in the world to get the vote, so, am kind of obligated to tick a box of some sort.

anarchy could reign couldnt it? I think there has always been tensions in america and you have a looong way to go towards reconciliation. I dont remember there ever being a time when there was never a crisis of some sort...thats why people have sports, and tv, and drugs, to distract them.

Um...

Vladimir Ilyich Lenin?

Otherwise I'm thinking you're discussing fans of Julian Lennon and Richard Marx.

Not following?

Um...

Vladimir Ilyich Lenin?

Otherwise I'm thinking you're discussing fans of Julian Lennon and Richard Marx.

Too funny!!

Check the thread title.

Glad someone got it.

My wife does the same thing. She tries to tell me jokes and I either point out why the joke made no sense or I never see the humor. She always says why so serious all the time lol.

I was just jabbing gently at your spelling. "Lennon" in thread title, is the spelling of the Beatles musician (Julian is John's son); "Lenin" is the spelling of the Russian Marxist revolutionary leader. Julian Lennon and Richard Marx had pop hits in the 1980's.

https://www.investors.com/politics/...nciples-of-propaganda-to-consolidate-control/

Having attained power in late 1917 on a raft of promises — land to Russia's peasants, bread to Russia's starving cities and peace to Russia's World War I-weary soldiers.

A pattern emerged:

• Make lots of promises
• Media censorship
• Ended private property
• Forced the military to get in line by holding their families hostage
• A needed revolution or civil war to bring about communism
• Used the civil war from 1918 to 1921 to justify his acts by crisis
• Lenin swiftly altered and manipulated the meanings of words, intellectually disarming opponents. By controlling words, Lenin controlled perceptions of reality.
• Never Let A Crisis Go To Waste
• Created government monopolies forcing anything private owned to be shut down.
• denouncing opponents, Lenin was obsessive, virulent and personal, calling them "bloodsuckers," "insects," "spiders," "leeches" and "vampires." The bourgeois was "ex-people."
• the most disturbing means of propaganda against Russia's mostly illiterate population was the use of example as part of a reign of terror. Public hangings and shootings served as well as any written material to force Russians into submission.
• To reinforce the Bolsheviks' monopoly of ideas, churches were targeted for destruction because Russian peasants believed what they heard there. Sacred objects were looted and saints' relics tossed into the dirt as priests were shot. Only hollow husks remained as reminders that the old faith was now dead.
• Blame Your Predecessor

Do we see any patterns emerging today in our own culture and political atmosphere?

• We see lots of promises including free healthcare, free tuition, no borders, better quality of life as we slow climate change, lgbt rights, women's rights that include abortion, etc.
• We see Conservative media censorship and propagation of liberal media, cheering for detestable entertainment, and cancel culture decides who is credible to have a voice.
• The Bernie Sanders/ New Democratic platform has blamed the wealthy for all the ills in America. Capitalism is bad, Socialism good.
• We have seen within government the use of indoctrination by theories like Critical race theory to reprogram our soldiers thinking
• Civil war is being feared within the States
• Riots created by far-left radicals and allowed by radical mayors have both candidates saying if you vote for me, the violence will stop. I for one believe one over the other.
• Manipulation of words. Gender now means fluent with 100+ different pronouns. Marriage is no longer defined as men and women. An unborn child is just a clump of cells. Calling opponents bigots, Bible thumpers, deplorable, etc
• Any crisis like a mass shooting, climate change or covid will be politicized to bring about favored policy
• Big Tech has created massive monopolies like Facebook, Twitter, Amazon, Google, Walmart, etc to the point where small businesses have a hard time competing. Especially if Big Tech or giant companies use foreign labor.
• We have not seen government killings but we are seeing ANTIFA and BLM mobs kill people.
• Radical Democrats are attacking, burning, and shutting down churches.
• And every political candidate will blame their predecessors

Do we see any patterns emerging today in our own culture and political atmosphere?

It should be evident from what has happened recently that Leninism and Bolshevism were indoctrinated into young people worldwide through schools, colleges, and universities over the last several decades (while everyone simply stood by). They have all adopted Radical Socialism and Communism as their religion.

If Biden-Harris were to somehow succeed in stealing the presidency, then America will go into Marxism and Communism, and also go under the control of Communist China. Biden has adopted Communist Sanders agenda hook, line and sinker (and Harris will be calling the shots). The radicals have virtually taken control of this unprincipled party which calls itself the Democratic party, and are demanding that Biden prioritize their destruction of America.

https://www.investors.com/politics/...nciples-of-propaganda-to-consolidate-control/

Having attained power in late 1917 on a raft of promises — land to Russia's peasants, bread to Russia's starving cities and peace to Russia's World War I-weary soldiers.

A pattern emerged:

• Make lots of promises
• Media censorship
• Ended private property
• Forced the military to get in line by holding their families hostage
• A needed revolution or civil war to bring about communism
• Used the civil war from 1918 to 1921 to justify his acts by crisis
• Lenin swiftly altered and manipulated the meanings of words, intellectually disarming opponents. By controlling words, Lenin controlled perceptions of reality.
• Never Let A Crisis Go To Waste
• Created government monopolies forcing anything private owned to be shut down.
• denouncing opponents, Lenin was obsessive, virulent and personal, calling them "bloodsuckers," "insects," "spiders," "leeches" and "vampires." The bourgeois was "ex-people."
• the most disturbing means of propaganda against Russia's mostly illiterate population was the use of example as part of a reign of terror. Public hangings and shootings served as well as any written material to force Russians into submission.
• To reinforce the Bolsheviks' monopoly of ideas, churches were targeted for destruction because Russian peasants believed what they heard there. Sacred objects were looted and saints' relics tossed into the dirt as priests were shot. Only hollow husks remained as reminders that the old faith was now dead.
• Blame Your Predecessor

Do we see any patterns emerging today in our own culture and political atmosphere?

• We see lots of promises including free healthcare, free tuition, no borders, better quality of life as we slow climate change, lgbt rights, women's rights that include abortion, etc.
• We see Conservative media censorship and propagation of liberal media, cheering for detestable entertainment, and cancel culture decides who is credible to have a voice.
• The Bernie Sanders/ New Democratic platform has blamed the wealthy for all the ills in America. Capitalism is bad, Socialism good.
• We have seen within government the use of indoctrination by theories like Critical race theory to reprogram our soldiers thinking
• Civil war is being feared within the States
• Riots created by far-left radicals and allowed by radical mayors have both candidates saying if you vote for me, the violence will stop. I for one believe one over the other.
• Manipulation of words. Gender now means fluent with 100+ different pronouns. Marriage is no longer defined as men and women. An unborn child is just a clump of cells. Calling opponents bigots, Bible thumpers, deplorable, etc
• Any crisis like a mass shooting, climate change or covid will be politicized to bring about favored policy
• Big Tech has created massive monopolies like Facebook, Twitter, Amazon, Google, Walmart, etc to the point where small businesses have a hard time competing. Especially if Big Tech or giant companies use foreign labor.
• We have not seen government killings but we are seeing ANTIFA and BLM mobs kill people.
• Radical Democrats are attacking, burning, and shutting down churches.
• And every political candidate will blame their predecessors

Wow, thats a lot to comment and respond to. However I've seen with my own eyes 3 truckloads of sheet wearing clansmen, with clubs brake up an a mixed race holiday festival in the late 70's. Who has not seen white supremist's marching with torches chanting; "Jews will not replace us," Fighting between Klansmen, BLM, neo-Nazis', Antifa and Dixiecrats in the streets.

I had to take a taxi home because a riot involving BLM caused the busses to stop running. (It cost me $55) My son had to help board up the place where he worked before election day because they were afraid of a riot. From both radical sides. I've seen both side live with my own eyes. Both sides are guilty of much.

I though that Conservative capitalist's were investors in Walmart and our ports where those communist made good came to shore here. Face book was hacked by Putins' stooges, not PBS. Yeah were in a horrific mess.

I hate homosexuality, Abortion, Astrology, Censorship of news, Communism, Fascisms. Imperialisms, Oligarchs, Kleptocrats, dictators, Elitisms and/or any other non Democratic form of choosing leadership. I hate the DNC also because they sold out to lobbyists and about half the villain's of the above.

I think Satan is real and playing both sides against the middle. He knows Christs words of course; "A house divided will fall." He tried to use the word against the Lord in the wilderness. Are we so immune?

well theres competing ideologies, far right has fascist regimes which are equally as oppressive.
most govts lean one way or the other, none are ever really centred. If they were truly centred both sides would work together or it would be a monarchy or theocracy.

Then you get the people worried about NWO new world order one world govt. Ecumenism which could mean shock horror, protestants and catholics together.

It is a much of a muchness.

I am trying to sift through political parties at the moment figuring out which one to vote or not vote for. Theres about ten of them. Or maybe just not vote. although in nz women were the first in the world to get the vote, so, am kind of obligated to tick a box of some sort.

anarchy could reign couldnt it? I think there has always been tensions in america and you have a looong way to go towards reconciliation. I dont remember there ever being a time when there was never a crisis of some sort...thats why people have sports, and tv, and drugs, to distract them.