What do you say?

First of all this is not for political agenda this is from a biblical view only. Many here believe that the church has no say in government matters.
Some here have expressed that they do not vote that God will see fit on leaders ( which is true) but that begs to ask ...is it delegation of church and state or delegation from saint and sinner?
Caution the video I posted is graphic in detail so hard that in mind when it gets to the subject of abortions.
Again from a biblical view point why is the church to remain silent if this is your stand.


https://fb.watch/1wvyX7UhSp/

If Romans is true that God ordains the authorities of government, the he ordained that we have a republic in which we choose our leaders, therefore it is well with in reason that God gives us the leadership we ask for, much as he did when Israel begged for a king, so he gave them what they asked for. So I think it is wise to use wisdom and cast a vote asking God for the leadership that we would want.
Our civic duty is God ordained, and I believe it is to flout God and his ordinance to neglect our civic duty.
I kept specific politics out of it and kept it to the question.

The church has a tremendous voice in government matters. It is called the evangelistic vote.

We are neither living in Eden nor Heaven, and our job is not to make it so. We must never think that evil can be legislated away. Men will have the option to choose evil until the Day of our Lord's return. We are to go out as sheep among wolves and lead them home, not drive them home by political or legislative means. Our work is cut out for us, and politic-ing is not it.

Luke 17:1 Then said he unto the disciples, It is impossible but that offences will come: but woe [unto him], through whom they come!

Romans 12:19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but [rather] give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance [is] mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

So we sit by and do nothing ... scripture tells us to seek God's righteousness. If one promotes the righteousness of God and is in leadership shall we not stand behind that person?

I agree with the statements but not the conclusion. We have an obligation to stand up for what is right. We have an obligation to speak out, and in this republic we have the God given ability to steer the leadership of this country.

There is only one way to point people from eternal damnation unto eternal life, and pulling levers in a little booth is not it. Our business concerns eternal things, not temporal things. Voting will not increase your own righteousness either.

Ephesians
6:10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places].

My Leader does need to be voted in. He was and is and forever shall be the King of the Universe forever and ever. Some in here may have an identity crisis. I will say a prayer for them.

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Looking for a scripture on voting.....hhmmmm let's see what Joshua had to say.... something like choose today whom you will serve
As for me and my house we will serve the Lord.

Choose blessings or cursings.......life or death?
Just because you don't see a ballot before you.....I mean after all you chose jesus out of all the other runners up.

Well when a watchmen stands idle and does not warn others their blood is upon his hands.

So let's be found watching, witnessing, and testifying rather than being found playing tiddly-winks in the voting booth. Lets be found laying the axe to the root rather that be swatting at leaves. We are called to do things God's way, not man's way. Choose you this day how you will serve.

2 Corinthians
6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
6:15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in [them]; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
6:17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean [thing]; and I will receive you,
6:18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

One would have to work really hard to see that choosing God over our sinful lives is "voting" as voting is recognized in today's world. I can not remember hearing a Pastor/Evangelist include in their Sermon "who will you VOTE for? God or mammon?"

God has blessed me to live in a nation who can pick whom will lead them . This is a blessing. I find it ironic that few see this.
Voting is the action of choosing.

I do not mind anyone choosing to vote, what I mind is when someone tells me I have some Biblical duty to vote. Not saying you have, but others have. I have heard this in several places, and even in a Congregation setting.

My point is this: Which would be more effective in addressing our needs/our Nations needs?

Voting?

Turning to God, repenting, and allowing/trusting in Him to heal our land?

Like the Profit said, as for me and my house........

I clarified that voting for the Undercard Candidates was a good and far more effective thing than voting for who will be President. So, clearly, I have nothing against voting. I DO NOT however compare voting with choosing God or rejecting God. They are nowhere near the same. ONE of them is an eternal life or death decision!

Watch out for condemning any who commit abortion. If you do this you also condemn any who have broken the least of the laws, and all have done this.

I am agains abortion, but I cannot in good conscience condemn any who feel driven to such and act for I am not a woman.

Now we hear always aabout woman but what about the fathers of these unwanted children.?


What about it being a matter of life or death for the mother?

Let us cool our jets about the sins of others and take care of our own repenting and accepting the salvation of Jesus-Yeshua for ourselves and for all who sin, een should thye prefer evil over good. The evil ones will give restitution come judgment.

I think the more a Christian can influence the world the better the world will be.

Its not hard to see how ungodly people influence the world and how it is not good.


I usually don't vote because I can't check the results. I have to rely on sources I don't trust to tell me the results. But I did this time. A friend at work convinced me that it would be close and that America needed my vote.

This is a good question. I think that it depends on the person what God has called them to do and what he has lead them in. It is true that God decides in the end but he also uses his children far more than personally intervening . Things such as abortion and all manner of corruptness we should stand against and should open;ly voice against and sometimes it is that one vote that makes the difference
But in the end it is a question of what does God say to your heart?
I think some may be called to vote and others like me leave it God there is no right or wrong as long as you are listening to the voice inside