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I'm sorry that you see such things in the KJV. Maybe it's time to switch to a better translation. :)
No thanks I'll stay with the spirit of Christ, the LIVING word of God.
 
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Updated words change the true meanings of Scripture. Words, plural, are important to God.
Yep

thats why God kept copies of original languages so we could see exactly what is being said

another example is the Greek word baptize. The authors did not translate the word, they changed the form of the word and made up and English word which had never been used. Why? Why did they not just translate it, do you realise the baptism argument could have never even began if they just interpreted the word instead of make some new word

or how about Jesus name? Again, they did not translate the word, they made a new one, his name was literally Joshua, which in the Greek is translated iesus and yet the translators for whatever reason Gave him a name not found in any language

let’s not even talk about love and Jesus restorative conversation with Peter. Which I Any English text loses its true meaning and affect on the listener. (Peter could not tell Jesus he “agape” loved him, he could only muster “phileo” love, which is a much weaker form of love, yet Jesus told him to feed his sheep anyway.

none of the excuse of different interpretations means anything, when you refuse to look at the flaws of your own interpretation, those arguments are meaningless

then again you and I have been here so many times I lost count, and you still refuse to see the the truth of your your translation is not a complete interpretive translation, and you never will.

I am not here to convince you. I know that’s an impossible task

i am here to expose your cult for what it is.
 
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What does that have to do with my question to KJV1611?

To answer your question, there is no issue, because any reader with at least a moderate degree of intelligence is going to understand the distinction presented by the word, "only"... and all the more if they have read Genesis 22.
lol

think of it

if I had 10 sons, yet claim I sent my ONLY son to do something

i have lied, twisted the truth, stated As fact something that is not true

using their argument, God is a liar, and they can’t see it
 
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Somebody needs to expose the "original language" cult. You people worship something doesn't even exist for crying out loud. SMH
 
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Are you accusing me of being a cultist, being guided by feelings, or not seeing His character when I read the Bible? That's quite a misrepresentation of what I said.
They are good at that
 
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Where do you see God not being able to preserve his word WITHOUT ERROR in the character of Jesus.

Where do you see anything to do with Jesus in a state of disarray or loss or decay.... none of those things line up with the character and personality of Jesus.
It does not take to much to see an inferior language can not properly interpret a far greater language

again, there is a reason God did not have any of the word written in English,

yet If he did, again it would be almost twice as long, in order for the true meaning to come trough
 
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Heb_4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

Why does the bible say the bible is alive if it's not truly alive?
It is

the NASB is alive also, you know how many people have been saved and never read anything other than a NASB bible

if it was not alive, that could never happen,
 
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No thanks I'll stay with the spirit of Christ, the LIVING word of God.
The spirit of Christ is in his word, not in some material thing which is a translation

your worshiping an Idol not Gods word
 
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Somebody needs to expose the "original language" cult. You people worship something doesn't even exist for crying out loud. SMH
Cult?

who Here said the origional language text is the ONlY thing you should use?
 
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Once again, he exposes himself

I feel sorry for these people I really do
 
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It does not take to much to see an inferior language can not properly interpret a far greater language

again, there is a reason God did not have any of the word written in English,

yet If he did, again it would be almost twice as long, in order for the true meaning to come trough
You expect me to believe God can not or will not translate his word into other languages because YOU say so.... I don't think so.
 

SoulWeaver

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Heb_4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

Why does the bible say the bible is alive if it's not truly alive?
I don't think it says the Bible is alive.
The verse you cite I've always read to be referring to God... because of the next verse:

Hebrews 4
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For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
13 Neither [clear continuation to what's previously said] is there any creature that is not manifest in his [Word of God's] sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him [not the Scripture but the person] with whom we have to do.
 

Dino246

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Somebody needs to expose the "original language" cult. You people worship something doesn't even exist for crying out loud. SMH
I haven't seen any posts from "original-language" cultists initiating attacks around here.

I haven't seen any posts suggesting that anyone worships "original language".

Are you arguing that Greek and Hebrew don't exist?

And just who are "You people" anyway?
 

John146

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Yep

thats why God kept copies of original languages so we could see exactly what is being said

another example is the Greek word baptize. The authors did not translate the word, they changed the form of the word and made up and English word which had never been used. Why? Why did they not just translate it, do you realise the baptism argument could have never even began if they just interpreted the word instead of make some new word

or how about Jesus name? Again, they did not translate the word, they made a new one, his name was literally Joshua, which in the Greek is translated iesus and yet the translators for whatever reason Gave him a name not found in any language

let’s not even talk about love and Jesus restorative conversation with Peter. Which I Any English text loses its true meaning and affect on the listener. (Peter could not tell Jesus he “agape” loved him, he could only muster “phileo” love, which is a much weaker form of love, yet Jesus told him to feed his sheep anyway.

none of the excuse of different interpretations means anything, when you refuse to look at the flaws of your own interpretation, those arguments are meaningless

then again you and I have been here so many times I lost count, and you still refuse to see the the truth of your your translation is not a complete interpretive translation, and you never will.

I am not here to convince you. I know that’s an impossible task

i am here to expose your cult for what it is.
None of these are true in the KJV. If one allows it to interpret itself, all questions are answered.
 

John146

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Somebody needs to expose the "original language" cult. You people worship something doesn't even exist for crying out loud. SMH
If God doesn't elevate the originals, should we?
 
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I don't think it says the Bible is alive.
The verse you cite I've always read to be referring to God... because of the next verse:

Hebrews 4
12
For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
13 Neither [clear continuation to what's previously said] is there any creature that is not manifest in his [Word of God's] sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him [not the Scripture but the person] with whom we have to do.
Well I would agree because from my point of view there is no difference between the word of God and The Word of God other than one is in heaven and the other is in our hands.

I see what you're saying about verse 13 being a continuation but I think it's more to point out that the word of God and The Word of God are the same. We know from Revelation that the sharp twoedged sword is the word of God that comes out of the mouth of The Word of God.

Rev_1:16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.

If you disagree, no big deal.... I see where you're coming from.
 
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You expect me to believe God can not or will not translate his word into other languages because YOU say so.... I don't think so.
No

i expect you to look at the language used, and not through your blindness and see reality,
 
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That's my point. No other version is trusted by their readers as the word of God.
Or better yet,

no other cult is worshiping an interpretation created in a flawed language,