Would God Have us Solve Confusion of baptisms?

Grace And Peace, Precious friends. I believe this would honor HIM Very Much, and bring
us a lot closer to "Approval Unto God" by a Prayerful And Careful "study of HIS Word Of Truth,
Rightly Divided."

So, briefly, to begin, so especially new born babes In CHRIST, will be saved a lot of frustration
caused by this prevailing Confusion, let us have a brief introduction, if you will, to "starting
a class" about baptisms, because I think there a very few who have "such a thing."

I know I did not in the "churches" I went to, one "immersing me to Get Saved," found out that
wasn't True, the next, when I inquired about their teaching, giving me an Unscriptural booklet
to explain their "traditional" belief.

The next one I attended, thinking {as a book writer suggested, "he believed was The
Closest thing to a New Testament church"}, that God Wanted me there, they re-did my
previous immersion, because "it Did Not save me, being symbolic, a supposed obedient
outward expression of an inward faith? {Do babies know Where that is in their Bible?}
= again, their "tradition" = the way they have always "done it." Thanks for patiently
listening to my experiences in H2O.

And, as Many of you probably know, there are other Various "traditions" of cleansing
baptisms, by "baby sprinkling, adult pouring, immersions in ONE name, others in
THREE names of God, And, "do it our way Requirement" to be a member of "our church," etc.
How do we know "which" one is actually correct? The Bible Answer will probably Shock
many.

Q: Did you know there Are Actually Thirteen baptisms in The Bible? Bet most have Never
"had a class" on them. I was Totally Amazed after 35 years "when I Finally Found out the
Real Meaning of water baptism. Ready, Precious friend(s) {who have Not Yet "studied" this
thoroughly}?:

The Important Question, very few are sincerely and humbly asking: Does God
Require water baptism, to be practiced Today, Under HIS Pure GRACE Dispensation?

For those who say "Yes," we have already seen above, Mass Confusion of "traditions,"
correct? But:

Have you Ever Thought: What IF "God's Answer" Was: "NO!" What would happen? Would not
ALL THE Confusion IMMEDIATELY Disappear into Oblivion? Class, are you "ready to begin,"
And, Be Very RICHLY Blessed By our Wonderful God, And, HIS Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided?

Here is a brief lesson to get us started to thinking, or challenged, anyway:

BaptismS Scriptural SUMMARY!:

LORD JESUS, please open our hearts to ALL of Thy Truth. Amen:

Prophecy/Law: ►►► The Twelve WERE SENT to {water} baptize! ◄◄◄
The TWO "Main" (of 12) baptismS =
A) water, For remission of sins!:
(Matthew 3:5-6; Mark 1:4; Luke 3:3; John 1:31; Luke 7:29-30; Acts 10:37)
(Matthew 28:19; Mark 16:16; Acts 2:38; Acts 22:16; Ezekiel 36:25 KJB!)
+
B) "WITH" The Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders!
(Isaiah 44:3; Matthew 3:11; Mark 1:8, 16:17-18; Luke 24:49;
Acts 2:17-18, 38; Acts 8:15-17; Acts 11:16 KJB!)

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15 KJB!) From "Things That DIFFER!":

Mystery/GRACE!:
►►► Paul Was NOT Sent to {water} baptize! Why Not?: ◄◄◄

Today: Only ONE Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION,
Spiritually "Identifying" members In (The ONE Body Of) CHRIST!!
(Ephesians 4:5; Colossians 2:12; Galatians 3:27;
Romans 6:3-4; 1 Corinthians 12:13 KJB!)
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Conclusion: God's ONE Baptism Today? = ONE? OR, EQUALS TWO?

Grace And Peace, Precious friends. I believe this would honor HIM Very Much, and bring
us a lot closer to "Approval Unto God" by a Prayerful And Careful "study of HIS Word Of Truth,
Rightly Divided."

So, briefly, to begin, so especially new born babes In CHRIST, will be saved a lot of frustration
caused by this prevailing Confusion, let us have a brief introduction, if you will, to "starting
a class" about baptisms, because I think there a very few who have "such a thing."

I know I did not in the "churches" I went to, one "immersing me to Get Saved," found out that
wasn't True, the next, when I inquired about their teaching, giving me an Unscriptural booklet
to explain their "traditional" belief.

The next one I attended, thinking {as a book writer suggested, "he believed was The
Closest thing to a New Testament church"}, that God Wanted me there, they re-did my
previous immersion, because "it Did Not save me, being symbolic, a supposed obedient
outward expression of an inward faith? {Do babies know Where that is in their Bible?}
= again, their "tradition" = the way they have always "done it." Thanks for patiently
listening to my experiences in H2O.

And, as Many of you probably know, there are other Various "traditions" of cleansing
baptisms, by "baby sprinkling, adult pouring, immersions in ONE name, others in
THREE names of God, And, "do it our way Requirement" to be a member of "our church," etc.
How do we know "which" one is actually correct? The Bible Answer will probably Shock
many.

Q: Did you know there Are Actually Thirteen baptisms in The Bible? Bet most have Never
"had a class" on them. I was Totally Amazed after 35 years "when I Finally Found out the
Real Meaning of water baptism. Ready, Precious friend(s) {who have Not Yet "studied" this
thoroughly}?:

The Important Question, very few are sincerely and humbly asking: Does God
Require water baptism, to be practiced Today, Under HIS Pure GRACE Dispensation?

For those who say "Yes," we have already seen above, Mass Confusion of "traditions,"
correct? But:

Have you Ever Thought: What IF "God's Answer" Was: "NO!" What would happen? Would not
ALL THE Confusion IMMEDIATELY Disappear into Oblivion? Class, are you "ready to begin,"
And, Be Very RICHLY Blessed By our Wonderful God, And, HIS Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided?

Here is a brief lesson to get us started to thinking, or challenged, anyway:

BaptismS Scriptural SUMMARY!:

LORD JESUS, please open our hearts to ALL of Thy Truth. Amen:

Prophecy/Law: ►►► The Twelve WERE SENT to {water} baptize! ◄◄◄
The TWO "Main" (of 12) baptismS =
A) water, For remission of sins!:
(Matthew 3:5-6; Mark 1:4; Luke 3:3; John 1:31; Luke 7:29-30; Acts 10:37)
(Matthew 28:19; Mark 16:16; Acts 2:38; Acts 22:16; Ezekiel 36:25 KJB!)
+
B) "WITH" The Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders!
(Isaiah 44:3; Matthew 3:11; Mark 1:8, 16:17-18; Luke 24:49;
Acts 2:17-18, 38; Acts 8:15-17; Acts 11:16 KJB!)

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15 KJB!) From "Things That DIFFER!":

Mystery/GRACE!:
►►► Paul Was NOT Sent to {water} baptize! Why Not?: ◄◄◄

Today: Only ONE Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION,
Spiritually "Identifying" members In (The ONE Body Of) CHRIST!!
(Ephesians 4:5; Colossians 2:12; Galatians 3:27;
Romans 6:3-4; 1 Corinthians 12:13 KJB!)
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Conclusion: God's ONE Baptism Today? = ONE? OR, EQUALS TWO?

Conclusion: God's ONE Baptism Today? = ONE? OR, EQUALS TWO?

I think, plainly said, water baptism effectually just gets someone wet, but that isn't the point. The point is that the reason it is done is through faith in immaterial spiritual concepts. Maybe this verse puts it better.

1 Peter 3:21-22
21The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ: 22Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.

Again, the water itself is meaningless. The answer of a good conscience toward God because of the resurrection of Jesus Christ means everything. It's all about faith.

So, briefly, to begin, so especially new born babes In CHRIST, will be saved a lot of frustration
caused by this prevailing Confusion, let us have a brief introduction, if you will, to "starting
a class" about baptisms, because I think there a very few who have "such a thing."

@Blackpowderduelist what is your disagreement with 1 Peter 3:21-22?

@Blackpowderduelist what is your disagreement with 1 Peter 3:21-22?

Grace And Peace, Precious friends. I believe this would honor HIM Very Much, and bring
us a lot closer to "Approval Unto God" by a Prayerful And Careful "study of HIS Word Of Truth,
Rightly Divided."

So, briefly, to begin, so especially new born babes In CHRIST, will be saved a lot of frustration
caused by this prevailing Confusion, let us have a brief introduction, if you will, to "starting
a class" about baptisms, because I think there a very few who have "such a thing."

I know I did not in the "churches" I went to, one "immersing me to Get Saved," found out that
wasn't True, the next, when I inquired about their teaching, giving me an Unscriptural booklet
to explain their "traditional" belief.

The next one I attended, thinking {as a book writer suggested, "he believed was The
Closest thing to a New Testament church"}, that God Wanted me there, they re-did my
previous immersion, because "it Did Not save me, being symbolic, a supposed obedient
outward expression of an inward faith? {Do babies know Where that is in their Bible?}
= again, their "tradition" = the way they have always "done it." Thanks for patiently
listening to my experiences in H2O.

And, as Many of you probably know, there are other Various "traditions" of cleansing
baptisms, by "baby sprinkling, adult pouring, immersions in ONE name, others in
THREE names of God, And, "do it our way Requirement" to be a member of "our church," etc.
How do we know "which" one is actually correct? The Bible Answer will probably Shock
many.

Q: Did you know there Are Actually Thirteen baptisms in The Bible? Bet most have Never
"had a class" on them. I was Totally Amazed after 35 years "when I Finally Found out the
Real Meaning of water baptism. Ready, Precious friend(s) {who have Not Yet "studied" this
thoroughly}?:

The Important Question, very few are sincerely and humbly asking: Does God
Require water baptism, to be practiced Today, Under HIS Pure GRACE Dispensation?

For those who say "Yes," we have already seen above, Mass Confusion of "traditions,"
correct? But:

Have you Ever Thought: What IF "God's Answer" Was: "NO!" What would happen? Would not
ALL THE Confusion IMMEDIATELY Disappear into Oblivion? Class, are you "ready to begin,"
And, Be Very RICHLY Blessed By our Wonderful God, And, HIS Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided?

Here is a brief lesson to get us started to thinking, or challenged, anyway:

BaptismS Scriptural SUMMARY!:

LORD JESUS, please open our hearts to ALL of Thy Truth. Amen:

Prophecy/Law: ►►► The Twelve WERE SENT to {water} baptize! ◄◄◄
The TWO "Main" (of 12) baptismS =
A) water, For remission of sins!:
(Matthew 3:5-6; Mark 1:4; Luke 3:3; John 1:31; Luke 7:29-30; Acts 10:37)
(Matthew 28:19; Mark 16:16; Acts 2:38; Acts 22:16; Ezekiel 36:25 KJB!)
+
B) "WITH" The Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders!
(Isaiah 44:3; Matthew 3:11; Mark 1:8, 16:17-18; Luke 24:49;
Acts 2:17-18, 38; Acts 8:15-17; Acts 11:16 KJB!)

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15 KJB!) From "Things That DIFFER!":

Mystery/GRACE!:
►►► Paul Was NOT Sent to {water} baptize! Why Not?: ◄◄◄

Today: Only ONE Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION,
Spiritually "Identifying" members In (The ONE Body Of) CHRIST!!
(Ephesians 4:5; Colossians 2:12; Galatians 3:27;
Romans 6:3-4; 1 Corinthians 12:13 KJB!)
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Conclusion: God's ONE Baptism Today? = ONE? OR, EQUALS TWO?

Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a good conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,
1 Peter 3:21 ESV

Not like removing dirt from the body as in taking a bath. But an appeal to God for a clean conscience.

So not physical but spiritual cleansing.
Because you can not leave off the first statement; Baptism, correspondes to this ( the afore referenced flood that destroyed the wicked and saved the righteous, see verses 19-20) now saves you.
Not washing dirt off your body, but God washing your conscience.

They weren't saved by the water, though. Being in Noah's ark is what saved them. They entered the ark in faith that a flood was coming. Had they not entered the ark they would have died as well.

I think the language is a little dated in the KJV, but if you investigate 1 Peter 3:20 a little deeper the meaning of "by water" means they were brought "through" the water (by Noah's ark.)

I agree with the spiritual cleansing part, that's what I said to begin with, though, in post #3: "The point is that the reason it is done is through faith in immaterial spiritual concepts."

So in your view does water baptism save you? Yes or no.

Welcome to CC!

I have to tell you, that was a very difficult read. Between the dozens of words and phrases in “quotation marks”, bold print, underlines, and caps, and the long time building up to get to the point, I kinda lost interest.

Maybe next time a little more brevity, and less dramatic flair.

Hope you get blessings here and aren’t offended by the critique.

Thanks so much for your kind words/welcome/critique. No offense taken -
still working on my brevity. (or, HE, Jesus, is still working on me! )

Not a very good brief beginning, eh?
Perchance this is a little better (Matthew 19:26?), gaining back your interest?:
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Will the following help us solve the confusion of water baptisms, today,
under God's GRACE? - Baptisms Scriptural Summary!:

And, Please Be Very Richly Blessed In CHRIST, And HIS Word Of Truth!:

LORD JESUS, please open our hearts to All of Thy Truth. Amen:

Prophecy/Law:
►►► The Twelve Were Sent to {water} baptize! ◄◄◄
The TWO Main (of 12) baptismS =

A) water, For remission of sins!:
(Matthew 3:5-6; Mark 1:4; Luke 3:3; John 1:31; Luke 7:29-30; Acts 10:37)
(Matthew 28:19; Mark 16:16; Acts 2:38, 22:16; Ezekiel 36:25)
+
B) WITH The Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders!
(Isaiah 44:3; Matthew 3:11; Mark 1:8, 16:17-18;
Luke 24:49; Acts 2:17-18, 38, 8:15-17, 11:16)

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15 KJB!) From Things That Differ!:

Mystery/GRACE!:
►►► Paul Was Not Sent to {water} baptize! Why Not?: ◄◄◄

Today: Only ONE Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION,
Spiritually Identifying members In (The ONE Body Of) CHRIST!!
(Ephesians 4:5; Colossians 2:12; Galatians 3:27;
Romans 6:3-4; 1 Corinthians 12:13 KJB!)
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Conclusion: God's ONE Baptism Today? = ONE? OR, EQUALS TWO?

Is it not Possible That God's Answer Of "No water baptism, for us Today," Under
HIS Pure GRACE, absolutely vanquishes Satan's Confusion into oblivion!?
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PennEd, what think ye? Thanks again, and, have a wonderful day!

Precious brother, see you In God's Great GloryLand!! ♫😇↑

brother Chris

My view is exactly as Romans 6 and Colossians 2, and 1 Peter 3, and Acts 22 says. With out any fancy interpretative hoop jumping. The writers are clear.

My view is exactly as Romans 6 and Colossians 2, and 1 Peter 3, and Acts 22 says. With out any fancy interpretative hoop jumping. The writers are clear.

Now for the all important question: are those verses, except for 1 Peter 3, talking about water baptism at all? How do we know if the word water is not mentioned and there are multiple baptism types? This can help solve the confusion with baptisms.