How Would Finding Out that Someone Had an STD, or Having One Yourself, Affect Your Dating Choices?

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seoulsearch

OutWrite Trouble
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Hi Everyone,

I wanted to ask this in the thread about dating someone who had a child and only one past sexual partner vs. dating someone who has no children, but has had several past sexual partners.

I am curious as to whether or not the people saying they would rather date the childless person with several former partners might be concerned about STD's, and how would they bring up the subject.

Now of course, a person could obtain an STD even if they had only ONE partner, but obviously, as the number of partners increase, so does the risk of contracting, and passing on, a sexually transmitted infection.

If it's not too uncomfortable, let's start a discussion about something I never hear talked about in the Christian community, because there seems to be this light, fluffy assumption that every snow white Christian single is going to fall in love with only other Christian snowflakes.

Can we talk about real life for a minute instead?

* If you were dating someone who has had multiple sexual partners, would you be concerned that they might have an STD? How would you talk to them about this?

* If you found out someone you were dating had an STD, would you break up with them? Would it depend on what infection they had?

* If you found out you had an STD... (I realize this may be too personal and much too conterversial to ask if someone would try to withold that information.) Therefore, I will ask this instead: Assuming you would inform potential dates of your status, how do you think you would tell them about it? (I'm not actually expecting people to publicly answer this question, because of course, it's a very sensitive topic.)

If anyone DOES want to answer, of course they are welcome to, and I ask that we would please treat all who respond with grace and compassion.

I know some of these questions might be too personal to ask in a public setting, but I think it's important enough that we at least get people thinking about them.

* If you were engaged to someone who had a sexual history, would you want them to get tested for any STD's first? And if so, what would you do if the tests came back positive?

* If you had a sexual past, would you be offended if someone asked you to take an STD test and give them copies of the results?

Many years ago, I was part of a program that taught students about the most common STD's of that time. I know the stats have probably changed, but back then, we were told that it could take 6 months or more for an infection to be detected through testing, and in the meantime, a person might be producing tests that are false negatives (the test says they are negative when they actually have the infection.)

I grew up in the era of the AIDS virus being seen as certain death, and anyone who had it was treated as a social plague that everyone stayed as far away from as possible. But when they told us that it was only contracted through bodily fluids, I wasn't afraid anymore because I wasn't doing anything at the time that resulted in those exchanges.

I will always remember a woman who gave a presentation about her own experience (she had the virus because her husband had been a hemophiliac and had contracted it through the blood donation system.) This was before they knew how to screen for HIV, and her husband had died in the early days of the HIV, when no one knew what to do about it. I went up to talk to and hug her after her talk, and I will never forget her crying on my shoulder and telling me that was the first hug she had received in 2 years. It made a lasting impression on me as to how much people dealing with things like this suffer with loneliness and isolation.

And of course, it made me contemplate what would happen if I fell in love with someone who was in a similar situation.

Please note that I am NOT somehow trying to encourage or condone sexual behavior outside of marriage in ANY way.

But as Christians, especially single Christians, we have to prepare ourselves to deal with the realities of life. As much as we would like to think everyone is "obeying the rules" of Christian living, people are people and will continue to make mistakes or bad choices (or, even worse, they might be have an STD due to a forced sexual assault that was in no way their fault.)

As with most threads I present, this is mostly to get people thinking and talking about a very real situation that many Christians will find themselves dealing with when dating and seeking a spouse.

May I please ask for, and thank you in advance, for the kindness and compassion we can all extend to anyone who chooses to post on this thread.

And if no one answers at all, that's fine too -- at least it's given the readers something to think about and discuss with the Lord when the go to Him in prayer.

God bless, and thank you so much for your time. :)
 

Dino246

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Jun 30, 2015
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It's sad that this has become an important topic to discuss with a potential partner, but it is, so thanks SS for raising it.

I think it is appropriate to ask the question if you are seriously considering a long-term relationship/marriage with the person. If not, it's none of your business.

However, if you simply would not consider dating/marrying someone with an STI (regardless of how they contracted it), it is your responsibility to speak up and say so, lest you allow the other person (or yourself) to become significantly attached.

Similarly. if you have an STI, it is your responsibility to share that information at an appropriate time; not the first date, but not a year into a relationship either. Be respectful and consider the other person's perspective and feelings.

My personal opinion on the matter? My response to a woman who revealed that she had an STI would likely be, "No thanks. I'm out."
 
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Live4Him

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I'm probably sharing way too much personal information on this forum at large, but, hopefully, something that I share will be beneficial to others in their own walks with Christ.

I want to preface my comments with this:

"For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved." (John 3:17)

I began with this verse of scripture in order to say that we must always be careful not to turn away someone who God may have directed towards us because of something that happened in their past. There's only one spotless Lamb, Jesus Christ, and the rest of us all have some sort of sinful baggage of our own to deal with.

Personally, I've only really been in two serious relationships since becoming a Christian. The first was with my ex-wife. We were married for 18 years on paper, but we were pretty much separated (sometimes in the same house, and sometimes in separate residences) for the last 3 of those 18 years. I'm going to share something that happened the very first time that she and I met in order to hopefully make a point. Many years ago, she showed up at a Bible study that I was teaching in my friend's apartment. At the end of the Bible study, she asked my friend and me for prayer because she, according to her own testimony, had long been tormented by a demon. My friend and I were both involved in the ministry of casting out demons, so I began to pray for her, and, initially, nothing was happening. However, as I was praying for her, I started hearing this loudly in my spirit:

ABORTION. ABORTION. ABORTION.

Well, seeing how I was just meeting this woman for the very first time, and seeing how a man has to be careful, generally speaking, when ministering to a woman, I was a bit hesitant to say anything at first. However, she began to cry because of her torment, and I kept hearing the same exact thing in my spirit:

ABORTION. ABORTION. ABORTION.

I finally gently, politely, and somewhat apologetically asked her if she had had an abortion at some time in her past. She really burst into tears at this point, and said she had, and that God could never forgive her for the same. I counseled her to confess that sin specifically before God while asking for his forgiveness. She did, and I prayed for her again, and a demon literally came screaming out of her. Less than a year later, she was my wife.

Why did I share this?

Well, because we could just as easily be asking if any man here would date or marry a woman who had an abortion sometime in her past. In my particular case, although I haven't disclosed the full details of how my ex-wife showed up at that Bible study that day, it definitely wasn't a coincidence, but rather a Divine appointment. Not only this, but about 1 month into our marriage, I discovered, through a series of events, that my ex-wife had been repeatedly sexually molested by her own father between the ages of 5 and 6 years old. To me, that's got to be one of the worst psychologically damaging things that could ever happen to a child.

Did this have any bearing on her sexual activities later in life which led to the pregnancy and abortion?

Could be.

Did this have anything to do with why she cheated on me repeatedly later on in our marriage and literally left me for some guy she met on a "sugar daddy" website while divorcing me?

Could be.

Whatever the actual case (s) may be, my only real concern was in attempting to do the will of God by trying to help this woman who I'm beyond certain that GOD brought my way.

My only other real relationship, which just ended 3 months ago, was with a younger woman who had an STD. Again, if you knew how our paths crossed, then you would hopefully recognize that God was the one who orchestrated the same.

The point that I'm trying to make here is that if I was left solely to my own preferences, then I'd more than likely prefer a woman who never had an abortion, never had an STD, and, quite frankly, had no sexual past whatsoever, but God is the one who should be bringing people together, and he knows what's best.

Presently, although it's a totally platonic relationship, God has me ministering to a woman I used to work with who was a lesbian for many years. In fact, she just divorced her "wife" last November and moved out into her own place. We'd been having Bible studies together for a few weeks, and then she suddenly stopped about a month ago. She just texted me a few days ago and told me that she had momentarily fallen back into that same sin (she has since stopped), and that she wants to start resuming our Bible studies.

Again, we all have checkered pasts. At my end, I just pray for God to order my steps, and those steps normally take me to women who have some deep-rooted sexual problems.

Anyhow, for whatever that's worth...
 

cinder

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I think if I ever were in a relationship where that could be an issue (for other reasons the chances of me being in a serious relationship at all seem pretty remote), I'd insist that for prudence sake we both get tested and share our results (I should be clean, but if I'm willing to do the testing too it shows a willingness to do what I'm asking him to do and to be as open and honest about it as I'm asking him to be). From there we can talk things out and know what precautions we may need to take to protect each other and what the limits of our life together would be.

And supposing that I somehow tested positive, well having not dated so far for other reasons; I'd probably just take that as a final nail in the coffin for my dating life and get busy doing other stuff instead. Just wouldn't be a big life change for me to stop dating.
 
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Live4Him

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Well, after talking about my ex-girlfriend here for the last couple of days, I reached out to her tonight, and we just spent close to 4 hours video chatting, so who knows...
 

Lynx

Folksy yet erudite
Aug 13, 2014
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If I found out I had an std, I would be very surprised. How do you have a car wreck when you don't even drive? (Getting an STD by transfusion would be the equivalent of being hit by a car somebody else drove, but I've never had a transfusion either.)

If I found out she had one, it would not be a deal breaker. If I am considering marrying a girl, it will be because she is a wonderful person, not because I want to have sex with her. And frankly I have been fine for the last 42 years without sex, so I think I would be okay.

It does make me consider my future motives though if it was a deal breaker... Would it also be a deal breaker if she became ill some other way and was not able to provide sex? Would I divorce her because of this?
 

Lanolin

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Dec 15, 2018
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quite a heavy topic.
Dating is not having sex with anyone before you commit in christian circles.

but if the person was not a christian and had previously given in to their flesh then they would need a health check just like anyone would. The thing is when you date someone you dont know what diseases ailments etc a person has and its not a topic many people like to talk about I mean even with covid you could catch a virus without having sex it could even be from holding unwashed hands. And they might not have any symptoms.


when you marry someone one of the popular vows is IN SICKNESS and in HEALTH. Obviously you hope someone will not ever be sick EVER but lets face reality here, there will be times when you or your partner may fall sick. Will you be prepared to look after them or just throw them under a bus?

unfortunately with stds even amongst married partners they may pick up things from not washing or just having unhygienic practices. Herpes is a cold sore virus that can be on your lips or on your nether regions. Its equal apportunity, Lice can be in your hair up the top or down below.

There is treatment for those things but you might need to refrain for a number of days to avoid spreadng anything. In the Bible women just totally did kept apart from their own husbands for seven days or more at their time of the month.