God's Very Simple Will, Under His Pure GRACE!

true , but if we only acknowledge that he said that we’re rejecting the rest right ? He said “ the work of God is this believe on the one he sent “

that’s true so what about what he taught them who believed ? Are they supposed to not believe his teachings and just say “ no you said I just need to believe in you “

do you see what I mean ? Of we believe in the one God sent we have to acknowledge why he was sent

“Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.”
‭‭John‬ ‭18:37‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Jesus repeatedly said the same thing in different various ways so your argument is because Jesus said to believe in him , he didn’t say this or it doesn’t apply ? This is what he said to those who did believe in him

“Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”
‭‭John‬ ‭8:31-32‬ ‭

We don’t reject his words on the basis that we believe in him it’s an issue when one verse tries to omit the others .

if we believe in Jesus we will believe what he said that includes all e truth God sent him to teach and say believe and be saved

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

to those who believe in him , this has too much value to reject in the name of grace

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.”
‭‭John‬ ‭8:51‬ ‭KJV‬‬

to a believer this is too great to reject they will Pursue his words of eternal
Life

“Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life. And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God.”
‭‭John‬ ‭6:68-69‬ ‭KJV‬‬

To say I believe Jesus exists is one thing , to believe in Jesus is to accept his words as those of God. His doctrine is what makes us righteous believing his teachings and words what he taught about life , death , sin repentance , brotherly love , good works , eternal
Life , God the father , his children everything he preached in the gospel is the truth is my point of we believe in him we will come to that understanding and believe because it’s eternal
Life

we have to grow up at some point and start bearing fruit that’s always a warning over an unfruitful life in Christ if we can’t acknowledge his teachings it’s because we can’t handle the truth yet . Sometimes we’re not ready , other times we love sin too much and aren’t willing to come into repentance but God knows the difference

rejecting his teachings ( I don’t know whether you do or not ) but doing so leaves us facing the judgement of the dead

yes Noah received grace , then by that grace God told him how to be saved because he found grace in Gods sight

had Noah had sustain for what God said he needed to do he would have drowned looking for a boat that was magically made , Gods grace came with perfect instructions for salvstion and Noah believed God moved with fear and became heir of the righteousness of faith

grave doesn’t mean we don’t need to do anything it means now we have the truth to Know and be saved by like Noah received the truth with grace and moved with fear

“By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭11:7‬ ‭

Noah received grace then was told the truth and believed and was saved.

God decided to destroy the world but Noah found grace

“But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭6:8‬ ‭KJV‬‬

so God told him what was coming on the world and how to be saved Noah was a believer of God so he obeyed knowing it was true and would save him and was saved by his faith but because God gave him grave and told him the hidden truth

100% agree. Information about the coming flood and insurrection to be save is grace

Save by grace, not grace alone, but through faith.

Because of faith, Noah do what God instruct him to do. Work to build an arch and save

Real faith save Noah.

What happen if Noah say he have faith but not build an arch, mean his faith is fake, fake faith not save us. We need real faith

This is what my church says:

Receive Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior.

“But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name.” John 1:12

When you make a decision to follow Christ, or become a Christian, it is not merely believing a creed or attending church on Sunday. It is having Jesus Christ, the Son of God Himself take up residence in your life.

“He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life. These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life, and that you may continue to believe in the name of the Son of God.” 1 John 5:12-13

If your desire is to start over and begin a relationship with God we encourage you to pray:


Dear Lord Jesus, I know I am a sinner. I believe you died for my sins and rose from the grave. Right now, I turn from my sins and yield my life to You as Lord and Savior. Please forgive me, save me, fill me with the Holy Spirit and give me the gift of eternal life. I put my trust in You! In Jesus’ Name, Amen.


If you sincerely prayed that prayer or a prayer similar to this, Jesus Christ has come into your life by the power of His Holy Spirit. He will begin to change you from the inside out! You can walk in the confidence that your sins are forgiven and God will lead you into a new life.


Please allow us to encourage you with some simple steps that will help you grow spiritually:

• Read your Bible on a daily basis: God’s Word is powerful!
• Talk to God in prayer often: Tell Him your desires, feelings and concerns because He cares for you.
• Get involved in regular Christian fellowship: Attend a Bible-teaching church.
• Tell your friends and family about your decision to follow Christ.

As you begin your relationship with the Lord, we want to encourage you to be patient. Just as a relationship with a new friend takes time to develop, you also need time to mature and grow in your relationship with Jesus. He loves you very much and has your best interests in mind.

Yep he will begin to change you, if you not change, it not His false, it may we not seriously accept Him

He Change you into

Matt 25

34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’

And is we keep doing like this

41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

According to Jesus on that verse, you go to eternal fire or hell

My pastor say that judgement is reward judgement, not heaven or hell

But Jesus say this judgement direct you to heaven or hell

On Verse 41 Jesus say into eternal fire or hell

On Reward judgement every body go to heaven only decide on what level. Matt 25 judgement eternal life or eternal fire.

Yes we should

and what did he say after this

whoever believes in him. By eating the food he came to give will

never hunger or thirst
never die
live forever
has past from death to life
Has eternal life
will be raised (vs delivered) on the last day,

so should we add anything else to the good news of Jesus for salvation?

would not doing so cause Jesus himself to be a liar?

Yes I believe faith comes when we hear and believe the gospel Jesus preached

Gods promise of the New Testament was the at his new doctrine that Christ would preach would cause the people to become righteous it would cause them to become obedient if they put thier trust in him

like a garden makes the seed grow jesus quotes this prophecy when he began to preach the gospel after he received the Holy Ghost at baptism

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“The Spirit of the Lord God is upon me; because the Lord hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;

To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn;

To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the Lord, that he might be glorified.



....For as the earth bringeth forth her bud, and as the garden causeth the things that are sown in it to spring forth; so the Lord God will cause righteousness and praise to spring forth before all the nations.”

‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭61:1-3, 11‬ ‭KJV‬‬

the gospel is Gods power to save us if we believe it calls us into repentance and teaches our soul the righteousness of God

“For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.”

‭‭Romans‬ ‭1:16-17‬ ‭

to live by faith we have to hear the word of the gospel

“So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.”

‭‭Romans‬ ‭10:17‬

Jesus preached this New Testament word of faith that will make us right

I am listening testimony from ex drug dealer from Bekasi, Indonesia.
When she was in the prison she still saling drug, she bribe the guard so she can have cell phone to sale her drug.
She was caught and sent to small cel for a week. Her friend give her bible, she don't have thing to do so she want to read, but she don't know where to start. Wind blow, open the Bible, she read the verse that say when you saved, your family will be save.

Out from small cel, she ask Christian friend what it mean by saved. Her friend say it mean if you accept Jesus, you will save from hell. She interest to accept Jesus, stop sailing drug. It is not easy, drug make good money, but she willing to do it

Jesus change her because her faith.

Stop doing drug is not because a way say thank to God.

Stop doing drug is because Jesus change her.

Stop doing drug not save her, her faith is, but her real faith bear a fruit and that fruit is stop sailing drug.
It may suffer, not easy money anymore, but Jesus gives strength to do it when our faith is genuine.

Fake faith will not change her,

Yep. I believe salvation by faith, but it doesn't mean keep murder is ok any way salvation not by work.

Salvation by faith and faith also change people.

To me faith is when we entrust Jesus to direct our live, to let His teaching to be our guidance and his teaching is to love, not to kill
If a man, me include say have faith and don't have love, he or I am lie, my faith is fake.

Why should it be that if we know, accept, and understand that salvation is only by faith that should make us blind to all other scripture? Isn't all scripture truth, could it possibly be that one truth cancels another truth? Isn't it also the truth that unforgiven sin kills? That we are to forgive is we want forgiveness? We are sealed with the blood of Christ, could that possibly mean that if we then reject Christ it doesn't apply to us?

I believe biblenot contradict each other.

Salvation by faith. Not contradict with salvation by Matt 25

34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’

Because real faith will produce Matt 25;34-36

Matt 25:34-36 is the manifestation of real faith
,

yes agreed. You are talking about repentance and walking in faith. And faith without works being dead .

We have to first hear the gospel and then we can start walking in him salvation is about the New Testament word

repent and believing the gospel

“Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness,

and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.

But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.”
‭‭James‬ ‭1:21-22‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Just like Noah , he heard about the flood coming and had his instructions he believed so he did what the word was telling him would save him

if we believe the gospel God will
Make us move by faith we only need to not let go and good to faith

Scripture is clear IMO:

1 John, Chapter 1:

1That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;

2(For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us

3That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.

4And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full.

5This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

6If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:

7But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

8If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

9If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

10If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

Hear the Gospel, believe the Gospel, that Jesus is who He says He is, come under conviction by the Holy Spirit, repent, confess and ask Jesus to become Lord of your life. THIS IS WHEN Gods wondrous GRACE is poured out upon you and you are cleansed of your sins and become worthy to be called a child of God, and an heir to the Promise...........

Yep, in my church some believe because salvation by faith, murder stealing commit adultery, are still save, only reduce reward.

In Noah example look impossible for Noah to be save if he don't build an arch. The root cause of his salvation is faith, he build an arch because of faith. But if he don't build an arch he dead, because it mean his faith is a fake faith

Some say, if you keep murder break your fellowship with God but still save. Yes salvation by faith, but I don't believe people of faith keep murder. Faith change and transform people.

Though I believe we not perfect, but we bear fruit, the fruit may not perfect, start with unsweetened fruit like young fruit, may take time to be mature, but it is promise is you abide on the vine, you will bear fruit and if you not bear fruit, you will cut of and burn on fire/ he'll

"sealed by blood," "UNsealed/removed from blood," but, Still physically
alive, can we repent/forgiven, "sealed by blood," Again? And, Again, etc.? Until we die? Where Exactly is this "Yo-Yo salvation,"...

...In God's HOLY Scriptures?

1 Corinthian 6
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

Be not deceived

Apostle warn us not to be deceived, it scary to me that apostle Paul say a list of sin that make us not inherit/not save. Some time I ask myself, than who save?

But no matter what we don't have the authority to change that verse.

Be not deceived.

Apostle Paul know there will be deceiver,

Deceive about what?

Paul say, fornication etc not going to heaven.

From that verse it seem deceiver will deceived Christian by say, fornication, idolaters, etc go to heaven, only reduce reward.

As sinner I wish apostle Paul wrong.

yes that’s a very prominent belief in the whole world in parts of the church brother it was foretold that the church doctrine would be falsified and twisted to turn our ears from The truth of Jesus Christ for all , and turn our ears to lies and fables claiming to be the gospel

“Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.”
‭‭2 Timothy‬ ‭4:2-4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

this was foretold about 1900 plus years ago . Part of what the gospel teaches us is that after Jesus and the early church there would be a falling away from the truth by the church. And the way of truth would be spoken of as wrong and evil .

Because of the false doctrines claiming to be the truth arising after Jesus spoke the truth from God . We would have to stick to the truth of Christ and endure to be saved “ repentance and remission of sins “

“But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭2:1-2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

paul And Peter were telling us this because Jesus did beforehand. There would be his church with his gospel , the citizens of his kingdom and then there would be a false religion claiming to be Christianity . With its own doctrine excusing sin and providing for it to continue

one of the major false doctrines That has always been an issue even in the scripture is the “lawless grace “ doctrine that still exists today and is probably most prevelantly accepted these days worldwide “ the cross alone means eternal salvation “ nothing else can apply but of course this makes the claim that Gods word is wrong out salvstion

it’s definitely an eye opener to realize the apostles were fore warning us 1900 years ago our false doctrines and to stick to the truth Jesus teachings don’t promote sin they take it away and give us strength to overcome

the cross is ultimately About being redeemed from sin so we can’t continue in it but also when we know that and make a mistake , we can repent and be forgiven because of the doctrine in the gospel about mercy we have to just look at Jesus and take steps of faith and Hod will save us on our way

I enjoy reading your thoughts almost always brother God bless

Precious friend, at least you DID NOT LEAVE this part out, as MOST others do:

"Know ye not that THE UNRIGHTEOUS shall not inherit the kingdom of God?"

Thus there is NO "yo-yo" In God's Eternal/Everlasting Salvation, But
There IS however, Judgment FOR ALL The righteous In The Body Of
CHRIST, And some Are Going TO LOSE reward, even though Saved!:

Please "study" ALL Scripture Carefully And Prayerfully!:

"Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man
shall receive his own reward according to his own labour. For we
are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are
God's building. According to The GRACE Of God which is given
unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid The Foundation,
and another buildeth Thereon.

But let every man take heed how he buildeth Thereupon. For other
foundation can no man lay than that is laid, Which Is JESUS CHRIST.
Now IF any man build upon This Foundation gold, silver, precious
stones, wood, hay, stubble; Every man's work shall be made manifest:
for The {JUDGMENT} DAY shall declare it, because it shall be revealed
by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon,
he shall receive a reward...

1Co_3 : 15:

...IF ANY {JUSTIFIED as righteous, but UNfaithful} man's work shall be burned,
he shall suffer loss:

BUT he himself SHALL BE SAVED; yet so as by fire." (1_Corinthians 3 : 8-15 KJB!)
q: God Says Exactly ↑↑ WHAT? ↑↑ Thus:

"God's THOUGHTS are NOT man's thoughts, And
God's WAYS ARE NOT man's ways!" Correct?

And Much More For Careful/Prayerful Consideration:
God's OPERATION On All HIS New-born babes In CHRIST!
God's FREE Gift of ETERNAL Life!

Agree Totally With:
“But no matter what we don't have the authority to change ANY verse!”:

"BUT he himself SHALL BE SAVED; yet so as by fire." (1_Corinthians 3 : 15 KJB!)
Cannot be Changed to:
BUT he himself SHALL BE SAVED lost, yet so as by fire = UNbiblical/UNscriptural!

Be Blessed!

Consider this along with your good understanding we have this Guy on our side also

“And, behold, a woman in the city, which was a sinner, when she knew that Jesus sat at meat in the Pharisee's house, brought an alabaster box of ointment, And stood at his feet behind him weeping, and began to wash his feet with tears, and did wipe them with the hairs of her head, and kissed his feet, and anointed them with the ointment.

Now when the Pharisee which had bidden him saw it, he spake within himself, saying, This man, if he were a prophet, would have known who and what manner of woman this is that toucheth him: for she is a sinner.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭7:37-39‬ ‭


“And Jesus answering said unto him, Simon, I have somewhat to say unto thee. And he saith, Master, say on. There was a certain creditor which had two debtors: the one owed five hundred pence, and the other fifty.

And when they had nothing to pay, he frankly forgave them both. Tell me therefore, which of them will love him most?

Simon answered and said, I suppose that he, to whom he forgave most. And he said unto him, Thou hast rightly judged.

And he turned to the woman, and said unto Simon, Seest thou this woman? I entered into thine house, thou gavest me no water for my feet:

but she hath washed my feet with tears, and wiped them with the hairs of her head.

Thou gavest me no kiss:

but this woman since the time I came in hath not ceased to kiss my feet.

My head with oil thou didst not anoint:

but this woman hath anointed my feet with ointment.

Wherefore I say unto thee, Her sins, which are many, are forgiven; for she loved much:

but to whom little is forgiven, the same loveth little. And he said unto her, Thy sins are forgiven.

And they that sat at meat with him began to say within themselves, Who is this that forgiveth sins also?

And he said to the woman, Thy faith hath saved thee; go in peace.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭7:40-50‬ ‭KJV‬‬

you are certainly right in what you are saying , it helps us in faith to know that Jesus saves us because purely of how we respond when he is near . He will lead us to repentance but it seems as if we need to spend our effort clinging to him and his promises the lesson for the Pharisee which helps us a lot is somewhere along these lines in my own thinking

“But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous,

but sinners to repentance.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭9:13‬ ‭

our covenant with God includes repentance but also we have a savior who is actively working on our behalf , interceding still in heaven for us . We have promises like this for when we are striving toward the goal so we don’t grow weary and faint

As we believe and press forward into righteousness of faith we already have this together with the instruction for our comfort and assurance that our labors aren’t in vein

“My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. I and my Father are one.”
‭‭John‬ ‭10:27-30‬ ‭

when we belong tonneau there is also grace with our instructions

“I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.

The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly. I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.”
‭‭John‬ ‭10:9-11‬ ‭KJV‬‬

we have a God that truly loves us in every way knowing we aren’t perfect he loves us anyways enough to die and heal us from our sins

if we see him first like he is in Christ everything becomes more clear he loves us at our worst , and if we respond he will make us our best