THE TRUTH ABOUT TATTOOS

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#61
Well I hear what you are saying, but it doesn’t change that people need the Gospel, presented in love, and THEN the Holy Spirit will work on them.

Your approach is likely to drive people away.
"Your approach is likely to drive people away." Wrong! That is the American myth! No wonder the American style of evangelism is a washout. And American churches are dying. I think you should read Lester Roloff's great sermon on Dr Law and Dr Grace. it is well-known in serious evangelical circles. That was in the good old days when America was a strong country - strong spiritually.

Paul first focused on sin in Romans. Read Romans chapter 1.
In chapter 2 of Romans, he indicted both Jews and Gentiles. (And the moralists from both sides.)
Only in chapter 3, does he bring in Grace.

God's love is not a wishy-washy love. it is tough love! Holy love! Fiery love! The fire will burn out sin.

P.S. I believe 100% in the Gospel of Grace. I believe in the Inseparable Love of God. But I will not accept this silly 'kid-glove' approach to stubborn sinners. Let them know they are sinning. The Holy Spirit will convict them.
 
#62
Several here who I have come to know as strong in the faith have mentioned, "I don't like them" ... it seems to be a way the devil marks his own.
You are quite right! It 'seems to be the way the devil marks his own'!!
Shocking, but true!

See my new thread on Tattoos and Demonic Possession.
 

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Some may regard the use of makup as the same sin. Then there is the hair brush and the comb. Revealing apparel, which is the praqctice of all these days it seems, even the older folks.

It seems a lot of things may be deemed as the road to damnation to many. It is less tiring to simply share the Gospel with all rather than to dilineate imprfectsions to all, that is pointing out sins, when the Gospel, when receive will drive out all sin evnetually.
 

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#64
Several here who I have come to know as strong in the faith have mentioned, "I don't like them" and often this is His guidance in this area.
Jesus reduced all of the law to "Love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, and mind, and love your neighbor as yourself". We are no longer under a series of do this and don't do that, we are to take EVERYTHING to the Lord for His guidance and them walk it out.
My father had several tattoos on his arm from his days fighting in Korea.

He died when I was 16. I’m not completely sure of his Spiritual status. But I know he feared, and respected the Lord. He never went to Church, (back then the rest of the family went to a Catholic Church) , but he was a very honorable man.

I suspect he was a baby Christian his whole life.
I can’t imagine someone calling him satanic for having “mom” tattooed on his arm.

There is literally no fruit in pointing out sin in someone’s life.

Give them the Gospel, love them, and show Christ in you.
 

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"Your approach is likely to drive people away." Wrong! That is the American myth! No wonder the American style of evangelism is a washout. And American churches are dying. I think you should read Lester Roloff's great sermon on Dr Law and Dr Grace. it is well-known in serious evangelical circles. That was in the good old days when America was a strong country - strong spiritually.

Paul first focused on sin in Romans. Read Romans chapter 1.
In chapter 2 of Romans, he indicted both Jews and Gentiles. (And the moralists from both sides.)
Only in chapter 3, does he bring in Grace.

God's love is not a wishy-washy love. it is tough love! Holy love! Fiery love! The fire will burn out sin.

P.S. I believe 100% in the Gospel of Grace. I believe in the Inseparable Love of God. But I will not accept this silly 'kid-glove' approach to stubborn sinners. Let them know they are sinning. The Holy Spirit will convict them.
Alrighty then. Have a good day.
 

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#66
If we give the devil a door to come in, he will come in. Jesus came to save us FROM our sins, not IN our sins.
We must be careful to not drive our potential brothers and sisters away yet no whitewash what we are to do in obedience to His grace and love.
 

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#67
Jennifer, if you have tattoos, all you have to do is to repent and ask God to forgive you. Clearly, God hates tattoos.

And don't side-track the issue; just focus on the 'terrible truth about tattoos'.

God will forgive!
:ROFL: No, I don't have tattoos. Used to have my ears pierced but after my first kid was born 16 years ago, I stopped wearing earrings and the holes have grown over/back. Too dangerous with a grabby toddler and now I don't see the allure. lol.

I'm not side-tracking the issue. I was responding to what YOU said: "No, I did not say earrings are satanic! I am talking about perverse modern-day 'piercings'. Like lip-piercings, which are really terrible."

So, again, I'm asking. What's the difference in a lip piercing or ear piercing? To condone one and not the other seems hypocritical.
 

shittim

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#68
My father had several tattoos on his arm from his days fighting in Korea.

Give them the Gospel, love them, and show Christ in you.
Yep, I know a man who went to Tijuana with his shipmates, woke up the next morning in his bunk with a tattoo on his arm.......oops!
 

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#69
My father had several tattoos on his arm from his days fighting in Korea.

He died when I was 16. I’m not completely sure of his Spiritual status. But I know he feared, and respected the Lord. He never went to Church, (back then the rest of the family went to a Catholic Church) , but he was a very honorable man.

I suspect he was a baby Christian his whole life.
I can’t imagine someone calling him satanic for having “mom” tattooed on his arm.

There is literally no fruit in pointing out sin in someone’s life.

Give them the Gospel, love them, and show Christ in you.[/QUOT
Beautiful! I feel the same about my Dad. Also about my brother. My Dad did not attend church, nor my brother. My brother was really an ornery cuss, but if I could love him, I know God does. My father would talk about the Good Lord, and Jesus at times, not often, but he was totally reverent.

YOu words have blessed my hear, mind and soul...thank you and god bless you and all there with...j
 

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how many photos did you have to look at before choosing this one? is that a naked woman?

ps...I don't have any tatoos and I don't care for them.
Yup. Out of all the pictures OP could have given as an example, this naked woman was chosen. I don't think the OP should be worrying about tattoos when there is, apparently, a porn issue going on. What's that verse about taking the plank out of your own eye before flicking the sliver out of your brothers?
 

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Seems I read something in scripture about judging others?
 

JaumeJ

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Seems I read something in scripture about judging others?
Now that you have mentioned it, it does seem some folks are looking for that proverbial splinter in the eye.
 

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#73
I don’t like tattoos, even “tasteful” ones.

Having said that, and recommending against getting them, we have to be careful not to alienate those in the world we want to reach the Gospel with, and baby Christians just starting to walk with this type of legalism.

Are we justified by faith in Christ? Or by rigidly following the Law ?
I don't think anyone is advocating that getting a tattoo prevents one from being saved. This is a Christian discussion board. I think the discussion is whether or not Christians should get tattoos.

Being against tattoos is not legalism anymore than being against prostitution is legalism.
 

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#74
Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am Yahweh. Leviticus 19:28


I'm curious if there's a difference in getting a tattoo for modern day "reasons" and getting one "for the dead".

Would makeup, henna, and nail polish be considered as "printing a mark" on the body?
 

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#75
Any law that does not contain mercy, justice and faith may be consideredd das fulfilled. All laws with these principles make up the two great laws of Love. I learned this from the teaching in the Word of Jesus-Yeshua.
 

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#76
Jennifer, if you have tattoos, all you have to do is to repent and ask God to forgive you. Clearly, God hates tattoos.

And don't side-track the issue; just focus on the 'terrible truth about tattoos'.

God will forgive!
The point she made is true. Piercing of any kind is not acceptable to God. Just because the world community accepts something does not change God's truth.

Praise God He forgives us of our stubbornness, and at times ignorance as we pursue our work to be Christlike in this fallen world!
 

John146

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#77
Not one believer can read the Scriptures and come away feeling that the Holy Spirit is leading them to get a tattoo.
 

JaumeJ

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#78
There are many things we do from moment to moment that are not inspired by the Holy Spirit. Did you just scratch your head? Blow your nose? Burp or worse?
Did you forget to go help widows and orphans todaay?
did you make your bed or no?
Are you wearing clothes that do not fit?
Did you speed up on a yellow ight?
Did you avoid a person looking needy duringt yur walk to anywhere ?
I know I have been guilty of many of these things, but not condemned for it. Nor convicted fror I act in faith and do in faith.
As already posted, pierced ears seem to be acceptabl e for many today. Lots of make-up for others. Plastic surgery for vanity's sake. So much more.
Guess what, all forgiveabe, but not if done without faith. I know ou will pick on one thing or another I have posted here, so be my guest.
 

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Please consider Isaiah 44:5( ESV):

“This one will say, ‘I am the LORD’s,’
another will call on the name of Jacob,
and another will write on his hand, ‘The LORD’s,’
and name himself by the name of Israel.”
 

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#80
Jesus stated ALL things have become new in Him, we have trouble today understanding that ALL means ALL.
Today we are to take ALL things to Him for His guidance, and NOT lean on our own understanding. Way too often do we cherry pick a verse or two to support what we want.
Jesus never told anyone to get a tattoo, we were bought with a price, we are to honor Him with and in our bodies.