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And, yet the hebrew word mistranslated as earth, has the simple meaning of dirt or land. Nothing more.
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It has actually been known that the Earth was round since the time of the ancient Greeks. I believe that it was Pythagoras who first proposed that the Earth was round sometime around 500 B.C. As I recall, he based his idea on the fact that he showed the Moon must be round by observing the shape of the terminator (the line between the part of the Moon in light and the part of the Moon in the dark) as it moved through its orbital cycle. Pythagoras reasoned that if the Moon was round, then the Earth must be round as well. After that, sometime between 500 B.C. and 430 B.C., a fellow called Anaxagoras determined the true cause of solar and lunar eclipses - and then the shape of the Earth's shadow on the Moon during a lunar eclipse was also used as evidence that the Earth was round.
Around 350 BC, the great Aristotle declared that the Earth was a sphere (based on observations he made about which constellations you could see in the sky as you travelled further and further away from the equator) and during the next hundred years or so, Aristarchus and Eratosthenes actually measured the size of the Earth!"
https://starchild.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/StarChild/questions/question54.html
Christopher Columbus did not know the earth was round which is why he named the natives Indians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spher...ption that the,the circumference of the Earth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_Earth
From what we know, the concept of a spherical earth was not in Ancient Hebrew.
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It has actually been known that the Earth was round since the time of the ancient Greeks. I believe that it was Pythagoras who first proposed that the Earth was round sometime around 500 B.C. As I recall, he based his idea on the fact that he showed the Moon must be round by observing the shape of the terminator (the line between the part of the Moon in light and the part of the Moon in the dark) as it moved through its orbital cycle. Pythagoras reasoned that if the Moon was round, then the Earth must be round as well. After that, sometime between 500 B.C. and 430 B.C., a fellow called Anaxagoras determined the true cause of solar and lunar eclipses - and then the shape of the Earth's shadow on the Moon during a lunar eclipse was also used as evidence that the Earth was round.
Around 350 BC, the great Aristotle declared that the Earth was a sphere (based on observations he made about which constellations you could see in the sky as you travelled further and further away from the equator) and during the next hundred years or so, Aristarchus and Eratosthenes actually measured the size of the Earth!"
https://starchild.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/StarChild/questions/question54.html
Christopher Columbus did not know the earth was round which is why he named the natives Indians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spher...ption that the,the circumference of the Earth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_Earth
From what we know, the concept of a spherical earth was not in Ancient Hebrew.
That language is figurative, bottles of heaven, ends of the earth , etc., Does not prove anything I can see.
In context, God is speaking about his greatness.
Where is the end of the land? or end of earth?
where are the four corners of the earth?
all figurative language. and, reflects the world view of people back then. In the context the correct translation for earth is still land.
Isaiah 11:12
And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.
Ezekiel 7:2
Also, thou son of man, thus saith the Lord God unto the land of Israel; An end, the end is come upon the four corners of the land.
Revelation 7:1
And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.
In context, God is speaking about his greatness.
Where is the end of the land? or end of earth?
where are the four corners of the earth?
all figurative language. and, reflects the world view of people back then. In the context the correct translation for earth is still land.
Isaiah 11:12
And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.
Ezekiel 7:2
Also, thou son of man, thus saith the Lord God unto the land of Israel; An end, the end is come upon the four corners of the land.
Revelation 7:1
And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.
You are calling God a liar then.
Even With your absurd rendering of Earth meaning land, has any floods destroyed any land since the Great Flood?
Of course there have been a great many floods that have destroyed both man and land!
Here is God Himself speaking:
“never again shall there be a flood to destroy the earth.”
Care to retract?
Even With your absurd rendering of Earth meaning land, has any floods destroyed any land since the Great Flood?
Of course there have been a great many floods that have destroyed both man and land!
Here is God Himself speaking:
“never again shall there be a flood to destroy the earth.”
Care to retract?
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We do not know the state of the earth prior to the flood. One theory is that mountains were nowhere near as high as they are now. Plant life would not survive the flood at depth because water covered the earth for a year at least. However, wood floats. it is possible that plant life survived by attaching to rafts of wood and debris, or by seed suspended in the water which eventually settled. We do not know the saline content of the water at that time. Science is not God. When science and God's word clash, I trust God's word. Science used to be based on truth, observation and experimentation. Now science sets out to disprove God and cast doubt on God's word. Science has replaced God in many minds.
I was taught science at school, starting in the late 1950's. I still remember the science teacher telling us that science knew everything except for a few details, which would be resolved soon. That arrogance remains in the scientific world. Funny thing is, the more they discover, the more mysteries arise. Of course, they will know everything "soon". Except they won't. God will see to that.
Walt Brown has written an amazing book on the subject of creation. I don't know that I agree with everything he says, but it answers a lot of questions relating to the flood. He also destroys evolution, if you need ammunition to convince honest sceptics. Nothing convinces godless atheists or aggressive agnostics. (You know the type, "I don't know and you don't know either".)
I was taught science at school, starting in the late 1950's. I still remember the science teacher telling us that science knew everything except for a few details, which would be resolved soon. That arrogance remains in the scientific world. Funny thing is, the more they discover, the more mysteries arise. Of course, they will know everything "soon". Except they won't. God will see to that.
Walt Brown has written an amazing book on the subject of creation. I don't know that I agree with everything he says, but it answers a lot of questions relating to the flood. He also destroys evolution, if you need ammunition to convince honest sceptics. Nothing convinces godless atheists or aggressive agnostics. (You know the type, "I don't know and you don't know either".)
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Amen. and as I said above. even if the earth did mean land. if all the land was covered. That would mean a worldwide flood.
And behold, I Myself am bringing floodwaters on the earth, to destroy from under heaven all flesh in which is the breath of life; everything that is on the earth shall die.
All also means all..
There is no getting out of a whole earth flood.
And behold, I Myself am bringing floodwaters on the earth, to destroy from under heaven all flesh in which is the breath of life; everything that is on the earth shall die.
All also means all..
There is no getting out of a whole earth flood.
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You noted that there are different ways, but only detailed one. I would encourage you to check out the YouTube video series, "Is Genesis History". Fossils are one topic covered; there are many examples of fossils of soft-bodied creatures such as jellyfish, which could not possibly be formed by slow processes. There is another where millions of nautiloid (cone-shaped snail) fossils were discovered in the same layer, all pointing in the same direction! Fossils can and are formed quickly. I know of a case of a cowboy boot discovered in Texas with a fossilized foot still inside it. The boot was dated by its design to the mid-20th century, if I recall correctly.
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I listen quite frequently to Dr. Michael Heiser ("The Naked Bible Podcast" on YouTube). He's a Semitic languages scholar. He explains that the mechanics of the Hebrew text of the flood accounts do actually allow for a "local flood" interpretation.
That said, I still hold to a global flood because of the enormous amount of extant evidence worldwide.
That said, I still hold to a global flood because of the enormous amount of extant evidence worldwide.
I listen quite frequently to Dr. Michael Heiser ("The Naked Bible Podcast" on YouTube). He's a Semitic languages scholar. He explains that the mechanics of the Hebrew text of the flood accounts do actually allow for a "local flood" interpretation.
That said, I still hold to a global flood because of the enormous amount of extant evidence worldwide.
That said, I still hold to a global flood because of the enormous amount of extant evidence worldwide.
And we can’t get away from the fact that God said He would never again destroy the “Earth” with a flood.
So if the flood was local, then God broke His Word since the HAS been numerous local floods throughout all of history.
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