JESUS CHRIST won the keys of death back for us, but we have to give up the key to our kingdom to use it. The Kingdoms Unify.

Could Cain's mark be an universal memory in the fallen hive mind? Some kind of instruction not to slay Cain or there would be an increase in the curse.

JESUS gave us The Way out of the fallen hive mind.

well the thing is in the ot of he looked upon the sin of someone it would eviscerete the person. As happened a couple times and he warned them several times . He had to turn away his eyes from man for a time in order not to destroy us.

“And he said, I will hide my face from them, I will see what their end shall be: for they are a very froward generation, children in whom is no faith.”
‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭32:20‬ ‭KJV‬‬

But then later when sins are remitted

“Neither will I hide my face any more from them: for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel, saith the Lord God.”
‭‭Ezekiel‬ ‭39:29‬ ‭KJV‬‬

the New Testament is when God looks back upon the people after many generations of wrath and him turning away from man because we had turned from him and we were free so he turned us over to our corrupt desires to do those things he looked away when he did that so he didn’t destroy us all

“Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭1:21, 28-32‬ ‭

that’s why the world got so perverted and wicked man rejected continually Gods guidance and so he let us have our free choices and it ruined everything. If he hadn’t looked away from mans wickedness it would have already been done

so when Christ came it was God turning his eyes back to the earth offering his extended hands and searching the earth with his eyes of the gospel , particularly because the gospel searches our hearts and minds if we hear and believe him

It puts his eyes within each person and over watching and witnessing even the evil men do and holding them for judgement of granting them salvation based on thier deeds

God knows the end and he knows what we’ll do because he knows our hearts. He sees our core so he knows of we will fail or press through.

What I’m saying is now through Christ his eyes are on every deed from every one , witnessing thier intents from within , thier circumstance from without so the judgement regards either eternal
Salvstion and life or , eternity elsewhere it’s the other guy

literally every deed and word is recorded by the witness in and with us so judgement is sure and complete individually we will have no words to answer , but we will be judged by what we had done and said by his word now

his word sees us inside the ot was outward “ adultery of the Heart witnessing thoughts of a
Man “


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“ stoning and judgement by all the other men based on a law left for them if anyone actually commits adultery outwardly they must die “


One word puts eyes outward the o thy earth places eyes in the heart of the person who believes

God is and was and always will be omnipotent , I’m speaking of our side of it he sent his eyes into us , to reveal judgement so we can see things not so he can but so we can recognize good and evil and choose the good

I’m not sure what hive mind means

buti think , yes the “group thought “ of man on earth ?

I think it’s in that parable regarding cains mark , had Cain been slain then it would not have been according to what God said beforehand and everything always has to be

all God had said at this point , was “don’t eat the fruit or toy will surely die “ he hadn’t said “ Thou shalt not kill , anyone who kills must be put to death “

afterwards after the flood God gives Noah the commandment about murder and the death penalty but Cain was forst gen before the flood of Noah’s time.

see this parable ? It’s an overall summary view of what happened from the beginning to make us fall with the world when Satan came and planted the seeds in their mind it’s an overall summary from beginning to end it tells us why he is waiting even though there’s a ton of wickedness on the world , and why Cain and those like him are allowed to continue on

“Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field( genesis 1-2) : But while men slept, his enemy came ( genesis 3) and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.

But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. ( Cain and Abel good men and evil men )

So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares? He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. ( Satan sowed deception in mans minds creating genesis 6 state)

The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭13:24-30‬ ‭KJV‬‬


Then he explains it better

“The field is the world;

the good seed are the children of the kingdom; ( Abel the righteous )

but the tares are the children of the wicked one; ( Cain the wicked )

The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.

As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭13:38-43‬ ‭KJV‬‬

It’s speaking out why Cain was marked and not killed for his sin , as an example i Mean for why sinful wicked people prosper and continue and God doesn’t strike then down , they are marked for justice one day but if he came now to right every wrong he would have to destroy everything because he said he was going to

so he’s waiting even though there’s wickedness here everywhere , and a lot of folks are being harmed , he’s giving man time to repent before it comes but those marked by cains father ,

and those marked by Jesus Father have river judgement sealed now some will live and others will not based on who’s offspring they are Gods or satans spiritually speaking who did we serve with our time on earth ?

men like Cain are marked for that day of final judgement , and men like Peter and John and Paul are the children of God sealed forever with his name

amen the understanding Satan took away is in those words “

And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness. And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭5:19-20‬ ‭KJV‬‬

We need to believe the gospel so we can understand God again and know the lord who came to save us


the keys Adam gave away in thier minds thoer understanding was lost by the corrupt knowledge of the fruit

Adam never had any keys to give away. Satan never had the keys either.

Why does the scripture sound like Cain was asking for this mark? ohhhhh, wait ..that does make sense. You ask for death by following satan. You get marked for the flames.

You may have read the following from before but it seems relevant:


For us to know God is for God to know us.

God doesn't want to experience the sin in sinners, so He limits His own knowledge and allows this fallen place to exist. No one wants to admit to satan being the ruler and having authority. satan will be dethroned, but not yet. Jesus removed satan’s claim on us as long as we acknowledge what Jesus did on The Cross and invite Him to takeover our lives.

Bad things happen because we asked to be here following satan and to be about ourselves separated from God.

God is only going to allow the people He knows into Heaven, so stop sinning.

Cain became aware and afraid after he sinned the same as Adam and Eve when they sinned they became afraid of God and hid from his presence

“And they heard the voice of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God amongst the trees of the garden.

And the Lord God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou? And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭3:8-10‬ ‭

But before they sinned learning the forbidden knowledge of good and evil

“And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭2:25‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Cain experienced the same fear of a sinner before God . Sin and it’s punishment are set from the beginning “ if you do this you will surely die “ so once the person does what will cause thoer death ( sin ) it creates fear.

Cain wasnt afraid here

“And the Lord said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen? If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭4:6-7‬ ‭KJV‬‬

but after he transgressed , he became afraid like his parents had. Cain eas part of Gods plan to seperate good from evil .
as all wicked people are even today part of Gods plan to sever the wicked and righteous.

cains motivation after he killed Abel was self preserving fear . He wasn’t repentant for what he’s done , but afraid for his own safety at this point remember Cain is the only living son of man he’s killed Abel the other and then later Seth replaces Abel it shows the importance of the knowledge of good and evil it filled the earth some people are full of darkness and evil others have sparks of light

“The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness.

If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭6:22-23‬ ‭KJV‬‬

it’s creation being separated by good and evil having the conduit of mankind’s dominion being corrupted and dividing creation between heaven and earth. We caused a division on the kingdom it’s the reason the knowledge of good and evil was forbidden God knew what it would cause

yes amen

really good stuff , christ then makes God able to dwell amongst us before we’re perfect , while we are repenting . In order that we don’t hide from Gods presence like those without remission did

had Adam had remission he wouldn’t have feared Gods presence . We can’t be afraid of God but we must revere and respect him having godly fear for his power and authority

but to be afraid comes from sin and guilt to fear becomes righteousness

Cain was fearful of death ..became naked. Fear is from sin and guilt. Cain had self-preserving fear. self-righteous.

Being naked is being incompatible with infinity. Righteous Everlasting Life.

“And the LORD said to him, "Therefore, whoever kills Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold." And the LORD set a mark on Cain, lest anyone finding him should kill him” (Genesis 4:15)

i think GOD was trying to help Cain’s fears by telling him there was The Way back to safety ..Life. I think we are Cain. We get the Mark of GOD for Everlasting Life.

being naked is nothing they were naked in his presence , and unashamed . What changed to make them afraid ? They broke THIS command

“But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭2:17, 25‬ ‭KJV‬‬

then they did what God promised would bring death , now his presence envoked thoer self preserving fear son to y withdrew away from his presence and hid themselves from his word because they now have a sinful conscience , they understand they have done what he said is going to bring death

“And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons. And they heard the voice of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God amongst the trees of the garden.

And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭3:7-8, 10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

see what I look at is the nt first so it gives me this understanding of those thkngs

“Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭4:13‬ ‭KJV‬‬

I think that knowing we have sinned , keeps us at a distance and we don’t actually want to hear what Gods saying because it sounds like death To us like this

look what Satan did to mans perception of Gods presence and word

“Now therefore why should we die? for this great fire will consume us: if we hear the voice of the Lord our God any more, then we shall die.

For who is there of all flesh, that hath heard the voice of the living God speaking out of the midst of the fire, as we have, and lived?”
‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭5:25-26‬ ‭

they were so convinced that Gods word was going to destroy them because they had sin on their souls they had no remission so the sin constantly accused them and they remained hiding from the light in darkness like Adam and Eve did something wrong….. that’s what Jesus is saying of sinners they hide from the light

“And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.”
‭‭John‬ ‭3:19-21‬ ‭KJV‬‬

They didn’t know about mercy yet having no remission so his presence was death for them in their perceptions corrupted by the forbidden knowledge


Had they not hid from God and thought “ the lord will be merciful to Me a sinner “

maybe things would have been different but instead they became afraid and it drove them away until redemption came what we really Need to believe is that hearing Gods word in Christ will give us eternal Life , rather than hearing Gods word will destroy us it’s why the gospel is the word of requirement ot invited us to come near to God and receive mercy and instructions of faith that change us and sever our wickedness

“Being naked is being incompatible with infinity”

“Unto the pure all things are pure:

but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.”
‭‭Titus‬ ‭1:15‬ ‭

to the pure all things are pure

“And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭2:25‬ ‭KJV‬‬

But to the defiled mind and conscience nothing is pure

“And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭3:7‬ ‭KJV‬‬

thier shame is a product of corrupted knowledge in them now so nudity became potentially sinful and a shame to them they had been exposed as sinners but they tried to hide river sin and cover thier shame themselves

God then made them garments to appropriately cover themselves, but the nudity meant nothing it was what happened on the inside of thier minds and hearts that day



having good and evil within us makes naked a temptation to the flesh it creates a perception that is pulled by both evil desires for the body and wholesome desires for the body

when thier minds were pure , naked meant nothing like two infants bathing together somewhat there was innocence because they knew not evil nor it’s pull on their heart and mind until they partook of the forbidden knowledge of conflicting good and evil

GOD's Presence makes you aware of what death is when you have chosen it. The Gospel shows you The Way out of the situation.

Amen the crucifixion of mankind because of sin through the ot and the resurrection of man because of righteousness in Christ and the nt

I just posted this to a bunch of atheists: You make excuses because you know GOD's Presence shows you the life or death choice you have made. You hide from the Knowledge/Truth of the Gospel. It is The Way out of this death situation.

i think you may have overlooked this post above, i really want your thoughts on it:


“And the LORD said to him, "Therefore, whoever kills Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold." And the LORD set a mark on Cain, lest anyone finding him should kill him” (Genesis 4:15)

i think GOD was trying to help Cain’s fears by telling him there was The Way back to safety ..Life. I think we are Cain. We get the Mark of GOD for Everlasting Life.



does seven = Righteousness?

that’s another thing to consider looking at it I think cainnoroves to reject Gods word and was of the wicked one so I think his mark is of the devil

“Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother.

And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭3:12‬ ‭

And then we have the distinction between how Cain treated his brother as an example for us

“We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren.

He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.

Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭3:14-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

I don’t think God was marking him for salvation I think he’s identified here

“In this the children of God are manifest,

and the children of the devil:

whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭3:10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Cain is a perfect example of someone who rejected Gods word that would have made him acceptable if Cain had heard and listened to this
“And the Lord said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen?

If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted?

and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.”

He refused to hear about his own repentance before it was too late is the thing , like we often do as humans . Cain could have listened to Gods advice and true word and it would have changed his own heart when God told him to just do the right things he would have heard it he would have repented but he “refused to hear “


Cain was offered correction and acceptance but he refused and decided to solve the problem his own wicked way killing his brother. Which the answer to his fececious question is emphatically yes we are our brothers keeper in Christ as he should have been but he served satans will and killed instead Cain proved to be a child of evil and had no repentance in him but for his own inconvenience and selfish preservation like an animal or beast

“Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.”
‭‭John‬ ‭8:44‬ ‭KJV‬‬

that’s why even a lie is sin it’s of satans will in the earth through the knowledge of evil abel is marked for salvation in the fifth seal group as a martyr they are in the kingdom of heaven but Cain is reserved for this day being marked of the beast

“But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3:7‬ ‭KJV‬‬
there is being marked by the gospel and being marked by unbelief and sin

"And the LORD set a mark on Cain, lest anyone finding him should kill him"

i can't figure out why it says the LORD set the mark if it is associated with satan. Was GOD avoiding telling the Jews about satan for a reason? Or was it actually a good mark and representing what we need to do to be saved?

yes brother do you suppose it was for the saving of cains soul after death like the gospel ? Or was it specific to his flesh and life on earth ?

I would say the mark is an answer from Gods mercy for Cain cains issue isn’t that he killed his little bro , his issue is “ Lord that punishment is too harsh for me , now I’m going to be cast out and be a vagabond on earth and whoever finds me will kill Me “

every regret he had was for himself every pleas he had was for his own sake he didn’t even acknowledge what he had done he fececiously mocked God when asked “am I my brothers keeper ? How do I know where he is “

my opinion and only my own opinion brother is the mark on cains flesh is the first man marked for the beast. The fact that when Adam sinned Godnjad said “ in the day you eat ye shall die “

but Adam lived almost a thousand more years and then he died. Cain also was allowed to live an earthly life , have children build a city ect but os Cain “ saved “ through repentance and remission of sins ? I don’t think he is but I’m not his judge I can only suppose what I think from scripture

I don’t think an actual mark is coming but our souls are being marked for salvation or damnation but wicked may live a long long life and have much possession however when they stepmom to the light after they pass through the veil they will be blind and naked.

I think cains mark shows that even when a mans soul is condemned the men are allowed thier free will still even if they turn wicked for thier flesh estate cains mark preserved his flesh but I don’t think it was about his soul is all I’m getting at