What does 1 Cor. 3:10-15 mean?

Do you think the works in Ephesians relate to works in Corinthians that are tested are the same?

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According to how much of Christ Jesus the holy spirit has revealed to apostle Paul he speaks .
here talks about God's only escape plan for man in Christ Jesus,saving Man from the curse upon Jacob.

here he explains further that if any man believing and accepting what has been revealed of Christ Jesus(LORD &SAVIOR) . Now its important the believer (builder) after saved , submits to the lordship of Christ Jesus, that's where works matters all three components seed , time and harvest . works bring forth fruit , the day of harvest is the Day of the Lord to declare.

yes there shall be a shaking Apostle Paul explains ,and that which is not of firm foundation will fall away, the only firm foundation is in Christ Jesus. again all three components seed , time and harvest expose every man's work. the Lord of host executes according to the will of God. the Reward is in the seed of Abraham which is Jesus Christ the Son of God

finally when after the shaking the man now realizes hes been foolish thinking self righteousness could cut it ,hes work done is past and he saved to work GOOD WORKS rather than EVIL works . note evil works is works outside Christ Jesus because they all lea to death and destruction.
the HOLY SPIRIT( Lord of Host) DOES THE WORK . the new believer Baptized of fire

BillG said:

Do you think the works in Ephesians relate to works in Corinthians that are tested are the same?

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I was replying to Post #63 submitted by Blik where it appeared there was an expansion on what is specifically revealed in 1 Cor 3.

However, in answer to your question, I never thought about it. What do you think?

You are not following scripture when you have decided what God meant by a fire. Scripture tells us “For our ‘God is a consuming fire’” (Hebrews 12:29).

When God gives us an eternal principle, as God is in these verses, it is a principle He gives that apples to the world God created, not to one part of His world and not another part.

Even the tides of the ocean and the rise and setting of the sun is ruled by these set principles. If they are changed by God we call it a miracle.

You are not following scripture when you have decided what God meant by a fire. Scripture tells us “For our ‘God is a consuming fire’” (Hebrews 12:29).

When God gives us an eternal principle, as God is in these verses, it is a principle He gives that apples to the world God created, not to one part of His world and not another part.

Even the tides of the ocean and the rise and setting of the sun is ruled by these set principles. If they are changed by God we call it a miracle.

Thanks for responding.

Maybe I will look into the crown's you have mentioned.

I also agree with @2ndTimothyGroup

I spent the most of my Christian life doing works for God in the hope I would be saved.
That is a long hard road to walk and very insecure.
Genuinely for me I felt my works might save me and spent most of Christian life waiting for the 3 strikes and you are out.

Praise God he taught me and worked so much in my life.
The first and biggest work he installed into me was that he loved me full stop.
When the Holy Spirit revealed to me that God loves me as much as he loves Jesus and I am saved by faith through the grace of God I broke down and cried.

It took a while to work through it.
However I would say that the works I focused on was "NOT SINNING"
My focus changed from not being sinless to not sinning less.

However I would say that people I walked with and helped was out of love and compassion for them. Broken hurt people.

Just like I was.
Won't go into it my life experiences are not good.
Shocking childhood rejected by my mum and thrown out in teenage years to be fostered by a Christian family had spending the next six years being sexually abused by my foster dad (side not was sexually abused by a cousin when I was about 8 and I was having to sleep in his bed again would I have to play with his willy it was glossed over)

You mentioned Eph 2:10

I myself hang my hat on

Romans 8:28-30
28 And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose.
29 For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren.
30 Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified.

What saddens me is that most people that I have walked with who are hurting and have been told focus on v28.
The focus is that God makes good all the bad things that have happened to us.
Total rubbish. He cannot make it good. Sin cannot be made good.

I then focus on 29:30

He works good in all the things for those who love him in order to conform them to image of his son.

Now that being the case we will become like Jesus.
We will walk with broken people will help them.

God has used me to walk with people who have suffered like me and the consequences as a result.

I thank God for this because Jesus did this and has helped and is helping me to do it.

What a priveled to be used by God for the right reasons.
Just wanna be Jesus.

I think they are different.
I Cor 3 has to do with preaching teaching.
Basically doctrine.
Simple example "You must be baptized to be saved"

One very hard experience for me was because I did not speak in tongues I was not saved.

For me the concept is not detract from being saved but the doctine taught is wrong but they are saved.

If it departs from saved by faith through grace then that is an issue for me.

The scripture we are discussing is about the positive of working for the Lord. You are bringing out how awful it is to work for the Lord in order to be saved, and of course that would be a dead end. Have you posted this as saying Corinthians 3: 10-15 is all wrong?

We are to learn and understand being saved by faith, but 1 Cor. 3:10-15 Is not speaking of those truths at all. God changed the subject, you haven't followed God in your thinking if you are applying these verses to something God is not applying them to.

Rubbish.

Read my whole post.

I said

You need to read the whole post I made.

Truly shocking you a posted what you did.
Shame on you.

You fall foul of 1 Cor 3:10-15

It's about teaching and preaching.

According to what these verses say they are about building and work that will not burn with God's fire. That is what the verses say, no mention of preaching or teaching.

BillG said:

I think they are different.
I Cor 3 has to do with preaching teaching.

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ok ... and yes, in agreement concerning 1 Cor 3.

BillG said:

One very hard experience for me was because I did not speak in tongues I was not saved.

For me the concept is not detract from being saved but the doctine taught is wrong but they are saved.

If it departs from saved by faith through grace then that is an issue for me.

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sad that some people claim that born again believers are not saved. talk about causing someone to stumble!!!

I remember growing up my sisters used to tell me I was adopted ... that my mom and dad were not my "real" parents. That's similar to what some do to their brothers and sisters in Christ ... and over the stupidest things. Jesus said A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another - John 13:34-35

How loving is it for a believer to tell another believer they are not a child of God?

Precious friend(s), Great Discussion of God's Important Doctrine of Judgment for
All "members" of The Body Of CHRIST, who have Eternal Life IN Him!
Great question! As emphasized above, did we take heed about our
"building materials"?:

1 Corinthians 3:11-12 "For other foundation can no man lay than
That is laid, Which Is JESUS CHRIST. Now if any man build upon
This Foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;"

Two Ideas For these {could be others?}:

gold represents "The DEITY Of JESUS CHRIST"
silver = "preaching The Gospel Of GRACE, According
precious stones = "studying" Rightly Divided The GRACE Doctrines,

Or:

gold represents "The Gospel of GRACE"
silver = Rightly Divided "study" of The GRACE Doctrines
precious stones: loving/helping our neighbors / suffering For CHRIST

wood, hay, stubble "saved By GRACE," but ignoring the above, focusing
More on "other works," which may not necessarily be "sins"...?
Since He (CHRIST) Totally Paid The Penalty for our sins! Amen?

So, what is the reward? Could This Give us a clue?:

2Ti 2:12 If we suffer, we shall also reign with Him {receive "reward"?}:
if we deny Him, He also will deny us {LOSE "reward"?}

Just my thoughts in this Great Discussion! - Be Blessed!

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In an Orwellian society, the Party would tell us what 1Cor 3:9-15 means and
that would settle it for everybody.

The downside is that there would be no discussions; no debating. However,
the upside to the downside is that the world would be a lot more peaceful
without disagreements. A world like that is coming.

• Isa 11:9 . .The earth will be full of the knowledge of Jehovah as the waters
cover the sea.
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It might be good to go through the first 3 chapters of 1 Corinthians. Paul discusses the issue of preaching the Word of God to the Corinthian believers throughout the first 3 chapters:


1 Corinthians 1:

17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.

18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

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23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;

24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.


1 Corinthians 2:

1 And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God.

2 For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.

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4 And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:

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6 Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:

7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory

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13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.


1 Corinthians 3:

1 And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.

2 I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.



Personally, I never really thought about whether the "work" which will be revealed by fire consists only of preaching/teaching, or whether it includes all "work" we do. I leave that stuff up to God. I trust Him and His judgment. Not saying that it's not a good thing to consider ... just that I never really considered it.

1 Cor. 3:10-15 is not about preaching the word, except as it falls into the category of works. We know and all accept that we are not judged by our works for salvation, but it is very unpopular to post anything about God judging us by our works as these scripture tell us, and most posters deny. Both are scriptures.

Paul tells us that we will be judged by our works, these passages tell us the same. The entire book of James has been questioned as scripture because James dared bring it up. John tells us in Revelation that Christ will judge our works. Matthew tells us God will reward our prayers openly. Our prayers are works.

Matthew 16:27 For the Son of Man is going to come in his Father’s glory with his angels, and then he will reward each person according to what they have done.

Rom. 2:6 He will render to each one according to his works:

Rom. 14:12 So then each of us will give an account of himself to God.