The Holy Spirit helps us in keeping the commandments

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NAME SOME SINFUL habits and I will tell you I do not, I stopped drinking, I stopped smoking, I stopped medical marijuana, I have been celibate to the letter for over a decade, what else? I don't watch porn or even sexually explicit movies, I shield my eyes from such things. You don't BUY IT? Then you don't know the power of God. Romans 8:5, ESV: "For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit set their minds on the things of the Spirit." I don't have to answer to YOU I have perfect peace in my walk with God and He let's me know I'm doing fine.
Not putting you on ignore or anything like that, but I told you already that I'm done dealing with you on this.
 

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You have no sinful habits. Okay. Not buying it, but I've made that point ad nauseam and figure it's time to stop wasting my time on this. It's only others now whom I think I'll be responding to here.

The way I understand things is this: We are not perfectly dead to sin. Being so, for me at least, suggests that we are free of any sinful habits or any aspects of the fallen nature whatsoever. That suggests perfection. If Paul says he's the chief of sinners, I know there's no way I'm going go through a day without having something to repent of. I can work to be dead to sin and repent of my wrong actions every day, and the next say I will have to do it again.

To clarify any misunderstandings, I have experienced what I believe to be progressive sanctification. There are things I willfully did, say, 10 years ago that I cannot imagine doing today. That's God. But, it's an ongoing process. It is not completed, and the Bible tells us as much. If it is not completed, then sorry, you're still given to sinning. Not willfully or cheerfully, but you give in to gravity from time to time.

If you believe that you no longer sin, then I don't know what to tell you. And, since I tried to address that and have failed to make any headway, I don't know what else can be said to you.

it is amazing to me that " Christians " are attacking you for simply stating that no one is sinless.

some people would just rather live in a fantasy world where they do not sin, and any who tell them that they do are sent by the devil.

the devil is the father of lives.

if they have a voice telling them they do not sin, in think us honest folks know who is whispering that lie in their ear,
 

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it is amazing to me that " Christians " are attacking you for simply stating that no one is sinless.

some people would just rather live in a fantasy world where they do not sin, and any who tell them that they do are sent by the devil.

the devil is the father of lives.

if they have a voice telling them they do not sin, in think us honest folks know who is whispering that lie in their ear,
Watch out, you just drew the attention of that Judge of our souls, Shittim! And Blik! Together they share the throne of holy judgment. I tremble when I hear their sacred names...
 
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NAME SOME SINFUL habits and I will tell you I do not, I stopped drinking, I stopped smoking, I stopped medical marijuana, I have been celibate to the letter for over a decade, what else? I don't watch porn or even sexually explicit movies, I shield my eyes from such things. You don't BUY IT? Then you don't know the power of God. Romans 8:5, ESV: "For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit set their minds on the things of the Spirit." I don't have to answer to YOU I have perfect peace in my walk with God and He let's me know I'm doing fine.
PRIDE??????? The worst sin of all.
 
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Just read that in Romans last night.
you obviously are NOT loving you neighbors as youself or you wouldn't be accusing me of lying examine YOUR OWN WORDS AND DEEDS and work out your own salvation, I don't know what your habits are but I honestly shared what mine WERE that I got delivered from and it was gracious of me to do so for it really was none of your business. Let your yes be yes , you should've given me the benefit of the doubt and believed that I am not a liar
 

Gojira

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you obviously are NOT loving you neighbors as youself or you wouldn't be accusing me of lying examine YOUR OWN WORDS AND DEEDS and work out your own salvation, I don't know what your habits are but I honestly shared what mine WERE that I got delivered from and it was gracious of me to do so for it really was none of your business. Let your yes be yes , you should've given me the benefit of the doubt and believed that I am not a liar
Be well.
 
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Watch out, you just drew the attention of that Judge of our souls, Shittim! And Blik! Together they share the throne of holy judgment. I tremble when I hear their sacred names...
They will be at the Bema seat of Christ there is no white throne judgement for them
 
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Watch out, you just drew the attention of that Judge of our souls, Shittim! And Blik! Together they share the throne of holy judgment. I tremble when I hear their sacred names...
No doubt! Shittim proclaims that there are anti-christs here in these walls/forums. Is she/he referring to her/himself?
 

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PRIDE??????? The worst sin of all.
Or, she's simply misguided,...

Or, trying to be what ... was it Solomon who warned us to not be overly righteous, lest we die before our time or something like that?
 

gb9

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NAME SOME SINFUL habits and I will tell you I do not, I stopped drinking, I stopped smoking, I stopped medical marijuana, I have been celibate to the letter for over a decade, what else? I don't watch porn or even sexually explicit movies, I shield my eyes from such things. You don't BUY IT? Then you don't know the power of God. Romans 8:5, ESV: "For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit set their minds on the things of the Spirit." I don't have to answer to YOU I have perfect peace in my walk with God and He let's me know I'm doing fine.

James said to know to do good and not do so is to sin.

so, do you ALWAYS , without fail, do exactly what you know you should in every situation??

here is an example- you state that you are a caregiver for you mom, which is a wonderful thing to do.

i commend you for doing that fine thing.

i to have been a caregiver for elderly relatives over the years, so i understand that,

i know it is also hard to do.

so, you see, if have ever spoke sharply to mom, guess what?

you sinned.

you know to not do that, but you did,

by James definition, you sinned.
 

Gojira

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No doubt! Shittim proclaims that there are anti-christs here in these walls/forums. Is she/he referring to her/himself?
Eh, you know what, and I could be dearly wrong, I think that person is saved. I just think they, like the rest of us, have a lot of work still that need to be done.
 

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BDF- Bible discussian forum gets to be a sewer at times, Misc. is a forum that is alot more calm , you won't get the spiritual abuse you have seen here.
Isn't that odd. It should be just the opposite don't you think?
 

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It's not pride as I am not boasting but I'm giving the glory to God and that is my testimony as to the power of God! You guys are the worst!
Never underestimate the power and spirit of trolls. Remember?
Don't let them lead you down their path. Which is precisely what trolls do. They're bored of their bridge and seek us out as their sport.
Don't feed them.
 
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It's not pride as I am not boasting but I'm giving the glory to God and that is my testimony as to the power of God! You guys are the worst!
You just sinned. You are judging God's children.
 

Gojira

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You just sinned. You are judging God's children.
Given to temper, yes.

Not agreeing with you though without acknowledging my own weaknesses in that area. And, I believe, sinful pride is the root of most if not all sinful anger. Hell will be inundated with such rage. I look forward to the day when that demon known as pride no longer exists.
 
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Never underestimate the power and spirit of trolls. Remember?
Don't let them lead you down their path. Which is precisely what trolls do. They're bored of their bridge and seek us out as their sport.
Don't feed them.
God's children are not trolls.. but I'm sure that makes you feel really great about yourself. Keep pumping that pride.
 
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Given to temper, yes.

Not agreeing with you though without acknowledging my own weaknesses in that area. And, I believe, sinful pride is the root of most if not all sinful anger. Hell will be inundated with such rage. I look forward to the day when that demon known as pride no longer exists.
I'm pretty sure every human who has ever lived is given to pride.
 

Gojira

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God's children are not trolls.. but I'm sure that makes you feel really great about yourself. Keep pumping that pride.
You know, all this started because I challenged Ebeth's original statement that she no longer sins, then challenged her again when she tried to back up on that without acknowledging her original error.

Welcome to the proof of what I've been saying for 7 pages now! :D:ROFL::LOL:
 

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Yes. Yes I did, since others here have made accusations against me not sounding dissimilar from your above statement. Plus, I did say that Christians are still sinners, and that you offered correction on. So yes, it sounded like you were addressing me.

Have I made one of those text-driven media mistakes?

Also, can you explain -- and I'm not asking to challenge, but to ask -- how a Christian can still battle with their sinful natures and not still be sinn-ERS? I consider myself as such because I'm in this flesh that seems to have contained within it the "old man". I do not say "sinner" to mean that's my lifestyle. But, when you do something, you're an "er" of that, are you not?
I'll help you in matters of clarity given your past experience as you note in your first paragraph. I of course am new and now aware of your history here. If I am talking to someone, or mean to address them expressly, I use their name in my post or I quote their remarks and then reply accordingly.
So yes, unbeknownst to you, you did make one of those text driven media mistakes. No worries. You didn't know. :)

Now, to your request for explanation. From me or anyone I'm sure can also chime in. While it is impolite to answer a question with a question at times, I think in this case it is apropos to perhaps address your attention to the context of the subject of sins-sinner.

If a sinner repents of their sins, and asks Christ into their life, and follow all the guidance of the Gospel as to how to be reborn in Him, and if it is true after this God remembers our sins no more, how then is that born again, regenerated person still in the category of the unregenerate person who was born to suffer the natural first and then the second death?