Saved by Water

What hogwash. Aren't you tired of your own bull doo doo yet?

FreeGrace2 asked for the explanation. I gave the explanation. That doesn't mean many people are going to believe it.

Love in Jesus,
Kelby

Jesus said,

"Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it."
Matt 7:24-27

Of course water saves you. Let's dunk the whole world and we can save everyone!.. Whether they like it or not!

you need to look in the mirror man I am not doing anything you yourself are not doing,

I am discussion your doctrine not attacking you.

If you don;t like it. Your presence in a Bible DISCUSSION forum is prety much a sham.

If 1.5 billion people plus others put their faith in water for salvation, they will be in for a huge shock!!

Both the accounts of Noah and Moses show that water KILLS, not saves.

there is so much leaven in this thread about water baptism, it's becoming one big yeast palooza

I didn't realize when the actual distortion about the truth of water baptism started. I am very interested in taking a look at some of the research sources if you would point me in the right direction. Thanks!

true

but yourself and mr wonderful think it is by water...hope you use a good deodorant type soap

the rest of us say that is not true

interestingly, the Bible says that is not true

“I, I am he who blots out your transgressions for my own sake, and I will not remember your sins. no water...all God's doing, why? BECAUSE HE DECIDED TO FOR HIS OWN SAKE which sounds like what we call grace Isaiah 43:25


4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, 5 even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ—by grace you have been saved— 6 and raised us up with him and seated us with him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus,
7 so that in the coming ages he might show the immeasurable riches of his grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast.
10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.
Ephesians 2


In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace, which he lavished upon us, in all wisdom and insight Ephesians 1:7-8

how are we saved?

THROUGH JESUS BLOOD.

but you ride that lie about water right to the bitter end while telling others they are not saved.

you tell others to read a verse and compare verses and go on about your integrity and you are pointedly and completely wrong and you will never admit it short of an intervention by God Himself. sadly though, it is my experience that having gone down this error over and over and over in your mind, you have created deep ruts of deception that you need help to climb out of

God can do this for you. You don't even have to apologize to anyone. Although once you are set free from the deception of believing in water regeneration, you probably will want to do that anyway.

Amen

Thats where the cross Came in. Thank the good lord he has the power to baptize us into the cross. so we can recieve the washing and renewal of the HS

It's one thing to reply with my actual comment and include your objection afterward. What I have a problem with is you modifying what I actually posted. Since you are not able to prove me wrong with scripture you resort to deceptively making others believe I agree with you. And to that I can say, I do not.

Your disagreement is with God's word...how does that feel? I doubt He likes it.

You are equating this with your belief in water regeneration? Even you must know that's a stretch at best.

You have missed the point again.

Cornelius was saved AND indwelt with the Holy Spirit BEFORE being water baptized.

Continue on with the next 2 verses. They show what this crowd is basing their entrance into heaven on: their own works. No mention at all of faith in Christ for salvation.


And context is key, of course.


Jesus said that those who believe possess (have) eternal life in John 5:24.
Then Jesus said that recipients of eternal life (I give them eternal life) shall never perish in John 10:28.

What a person needs to obey for salvation is simply receiving the free gift of eternal life by faith. Those who do shall never perish.

Jesus said that. Do you believe Jesus?

Sources have included 20-25 associates world wide that have done a local search for any info denying baptism and found none prior to the 1960's.
This is not laboratory research but, we are so convinced we are waiting for the opponents of baptism to show we are wrong.
The search is ongoing.
NOTE...we have invited but not received one opponent of baptism listing any valid (none...in fact...not one)....documents which shows such Bible teaching before the 1960's.
Why?

Then tell us why scriptures posted is not a controlling commandment?

That is a pure play on words and is miss leading. It is a distortion of scriptures and God's intent.

Scripture does not show that baptism is not required. If it did...believe me...the new age religion types would be plastering it on every post.

I can explain. (sorry to but in)

"Indwelling" means it's in there. "FULL" means there's so much of it in there that there's (at that time) no room for anything else..like sin.