Vaccination?

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If a Christian gets vaccinated for the covid Is this a lack of faith?

  • Getting the vaccination means the Christian lacks faith.

  • Getting the vaccination demonstrates love thy neighbor.

  • Other,I will explain.

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eternally-gratefull

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gb9 said:
well , let's see.

in my state of georgia ( u s ) , the survival rate for covid is 98.3%.

hospitalization rate is about 8%.

so, by your reasoning, i should take a vax that i would have a 50/50 chance of having a adverse reaction to, meanwhile there is a 98.3% chance i will survive covid, and a 92% chance of not going to hospital , and on top of that, right now our rate off infection is about 17%, so there is a 82% chance of testing negative if i got tested.


so, if if me using that data to make decisions is being fanatical , then so be it.
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50/50. I know about 40 people (probably more) who has got the vaccine. 100% of these people had no adverse affects
stop listening to the news is
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So, if a Christian rejects taking the COVID vaccine, and they catch COVID and die, what is God’s message to their family and friends? (Unless I’m misunderstanding your assumption that covid is a hoax)
 
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interesting topic. I don't think it is a lack of faith to take the vaccine I was forced to take it where I live or else I couldn't do anything or go anywhere I would be trapped in my room but make no mistake this is the precursor of the mark and yes it will kill you it is all part of the plan to depopulate the the earth. if I die from the vaccine I am not afraid there are worse things but if I am wrong and it doesn't kill you then I can praise God. The thing about this vaccine is that it is a poison to your body it is not natural and is not built for the human immune system, but remember also that an interesting fact is that sheeps blood make them immune to snake venom one can be bitten by the most poisonous snake and hurt but never die from it.

it should be obvious the times we live in and why we all should be looking deeper into understanding bible prophecy because this is it the beginning of the end this vaccine is about the most obvious evidence of that fact
 
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Sipsey said:
So, if a Christian rejects taking the COVID vaccine, and they catch COVID and die, what is God’s message to their family and friends? (Unless I’m misunderstanding your assumption that covid is a hoax)
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It is a hoax more people die from the flu than covid and generally the same group of people mainly being elderly or people with health issues but I learned this not from the news but from doing my own research there are tons of articles by renowned doctors who say these things but the left and all of Bidens cronies would have you live in fear and believe their lies about the virus because they want total control

I greatly urge anyone to not get their info from the news but to do our own research
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
I am not arguing sin. I am not pro or against the vaccine
I am against all the conspiracy theories. I have three people in my room trice who just got over covid. They all three decided to Get the shot too late. They are getting it as soon as possible. The one girl got it from her son who got it from school. Her whole family was seriously ill. Except her husband who got the vaccine. He never came down with it and took care of his family. My daughter due to all the anti van crap is afraid to get it. Due to her health. I do not think she would survive covid if she gets it.
if she dies because if all the anti vaccine crap I will be angry then. Really amgry

Every vaccine has side affects. You can take it and die. It may not even help you. But like one of the concervative anti vaccine guy from North Carolina said two days before he died from covid. Once you get it it is too late to get the shot

You do not want to
Get it (not talking to you but everyone) then don’t. But keep your anti vaccine propaganda to yourself. (Again not directed to you but all the conspiracy theorists). We should be Christians. Yet we are the worst offenders.
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I hear what you are saying brother , but I just disagreed with your comment about not having it means we mothers/grandmothers do not love are family , that is what I am disagreeing with , in fact I think I was quite shocked that you would say such a thing...
...xox...
 
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joshhuntnm said:
My daddy used to say, we don't all see things alike. some things we need to agree to disagree on. for me, it is like any other medicine. I had covid after vaccine #1 and happily it was very mild.
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I’m happy for you:) remember though,GOD looks at the heart and sees the truth of what your motive Is.If a person got the shot thinking In their mind that GOD IS ALMIGHTY and If I die from this shot GOD got me,that’s IMO shows faith and love your neighbor In action or If you don’t get the shot and we know the desease exist and people are dying then that IMO shows self preservation and not showing love your neighbor.
 
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Sipsey said:
So, if a Christian rejects taking the COVID vaccine, and they catch COVID and die, what is God’s message to their family and friends? (Unless I’m misunderstanding your assumption that covid is a hoax)
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If someone dies from X thing then what is God's message to their family? Everyone dies bro. There is no such thing as preventable death. It's only arriving against the inevitable.
 
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phil36 said:
That would be true 'if' you believe those in Christ will forsake Him. But thankfully we have
a sure hope. Christ has told us he will never lose any the Father has given him. Amen.
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John 10:27-28
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gb9 said:
oh really?

well, let's see, even right now, businesses and some governments are denying entry into them if you are not vaxed.

so, it is no stretch to see " no vax, no entry " on places to buy food and medicine.

you know, can't by and sell without the mark.


and, a second point- Israel is one of the most vaxed countries on earth, and they also have one of the highest transmission rates in the world,

the c d c , on their own wedsite , says the vax does not stop transmission of the delta varinet.

so, the vax is not working, yet still being pushed, and as i said, in many cases mandated, so ask yourself why that is...
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People really should stop saying a vaccine does not work because it does not protect against something it was not designed for. And as for the MotB? Jeepers, give it up already! I have not heard of anyone needing/being required to renounce their Lord and Savior Jesus Chris in order to receive the vaccine. The things people say! :oops::rolleyes::oops::geek::alien:
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
I am not arguing sin. I am not pro or against the vaccine
I am against all the conspiracy theories. I have three people in my room trice who just got over covid. They all three decided to Get the shot too late. They are getting it as soon as possible. The one girl got it from her son who got it from school. Her whole family was seriously ill. Except her husband who got the vaccine. He never came down with it and took care of his family. My daughter due to all the anti van crap is afraid to get it. Due to her health. I do not think she would survive covid if she gets it.
if she dies because if all the anti vaccine crap I will be angry then. Really amgry

Every vaccine has side affects. You can take it and die. It may not even help you. But like one of the concervative anti vaccine guy from North Carolina said two days before he died from covid. Once you get it it is too late to get the shot

You do not want to
Get it (not talking to you but everyone) then don’t. But keep your anti vaccine propaganda to yourself. (Again not directed to you but all the conspiracy theorists). We should be Christians. Yet we are the worst offenders.
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I respect your opinion. People who have died or suffered adverse effects from vaxxes have a right to be heard and acknowledged. They are not conspiracy theorists. Theorists suggest things like: “The government is trying to kill you with these vaxxes!” Experiencers simply tell the truth about deaths and adverse effects.
I will never get vaxxed for anyone or any reason. I will not risk possible side effects. I have a host of other health issues so no vaxx for me. The deaths and side effects are real.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Rosemaryx said:
I hear what you are saying brother , but I just disagreed with your comment about not having it means we mothers/grandmothers do not love are family , that is what I am disagreeing with , in fact I think I was quite shocked that you would say such a thing...
...xox...
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You misunderstood me sis. I was just making an argument from a different side.
one of the reasons I got it it for
My grandkids. After watching my sons wife’s mother die from covid last Christmas. They all got it when they went to her house she died two days later.

I saw 4 other people my age die from covid at the same time. So when the vaccine was available I was first in line
I also at the same time stopped watching the news. I can’t trust anything I hear anymore
 
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Tinkerbell725 said:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjiy8DPm-XyAhVKEnAKHQfyBSEQvOMEKAB6BAgDEAE&url=https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/japan-finds-stainless-steel-particles-suspended-doses-moderna-vaccine-2021-09-01/&usg=AOvVaw0hMmf5cs7c5zoa0CuTUe-S



Moderna to recall COVID-19 doses in Japan after stainless steel contaminants found
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There are recalls all the time of things that have been contaminated. This is not unique to the vaccine.
 
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Icedaisey said:
CDC: 4,115 Fully Vaccinated Have Been Hospitalized Or Died


Most COVID-19 Patients at Israel Hospital Fully Vaccinated


3 in 4 Vaccinated People With Severe COVID Have This in Common
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People who get the flu shot still get the flu.
People who wear coats still freeze to death.
People who wear seat belts still die in car crashes.
Not everyone who says "Lord Lord" will enter into heaven.

So I guess all is lost and we shouldn't do anything to mitigate dangers because they aren't 100% perfect.
 
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shittim said:
The scam continues.... the "vaccine" is not a vaccine, it is an experimental gene altering compound intended to depopulate.
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Yep. And those who broke into congress chanting "hang Mike Pence" were just your typical tourists.

SMH. You know, the more Christians buy into conspiracy theories, the more Christianity looks like a conspiracy theory, right?
 
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Runningman said:
If someone dies from X thing then what is God's message to their family? Everyone dies bro. There is no such thing as preventable death. It's only arriving against the inevitable.
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Deflection with a capitol D
 
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I respect your opinion. People who have died or suffered adverse effects from vaxxes have a right to be heard and acknowledged. They are not conspiracy theorists. Theorists suggest things like: “The government is trying to kill you with these vaxxes!” Experiencers simply tell the truth about deaths and adverse effects.
I will never get vaxxed for anyone or any reason. I will not risk possible side effects. I have a host of other health issues so no vaxx for me. The deaths and side effects are real.
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Do you know anyone personally who died with the vaccine? Or just things you heard on the news?
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
It does not mean you have too
but if you die and did not take the shot??
I know a few people who regretted not taking the shot. When they changed their mind it was too late.
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I know several who regret taking the jab due to blood clots, lung damage, and strong menstrual cycles. A few are currently in the ICU. Do you know the 2 year efficacy? Five year? Ten year?
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
Do you know anyone personally who died with the vaccine? Or just things you heard on the news?
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I myself am a high risk due to my immune system. I got COVID, had two bad days until I got the frontline meds in me. I was 100% that afternoon. No joke. We have meds to fight this thing, but our government has suppresed them in order to push the vaccine. Follow the money.
 
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JTB said:
People who get the flu shot still get the flu.
People who wear coats still freeze to death.
People who wear seat belts still die in car crashes.
Not everyone who says "Lord Lord" will enter into heaven.

So I guess all is lost and we shouldn't do anything to mitigate dangers because they aren't 100% perfect.
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Moreover, if a Christian does anything to mitigate any of a multiplicities of dangers,
according to some here, you are not trusting God and have renounced your faith!!!

Where is the face/palm emoji??? :unsure:
 
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