Proof That Catholics Worship Mary

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"I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images." —Isaiah 42:8

There is not a more damnable doctrine in Roman Catholicism than the teachings ofOur Lady of Fatima. Roman Catholic officials claim that a supernatural event occurred in 1917 in which theBlessed Virgin Maryappeared repeatedly to 3 little children in Fatima, Portugal. Supposedly, theVirgin Marygave a message to the 3 children—Lucia, Jacinta and Francisco—consisting of anallegednumber of precise predictions, requests, warnings andpromisesconcerning the Catholic faith. An "apparition" means "the unexpected or unusual appearance of a ghostly figure."

The 5th of the15 promisesmade byOur Lady of Fatimaconcerning the Rosary is so blasphemous that it is unmistakable, clear, proof, that Catholics do indeed worship Mary (which is sinful idolatry). Here's the 5th promise...

The soul which recommends itself to Me by the recitation of the Rosary, shall not perish. —SOURCE

Blasphemy!!! You cannot show me even one Scripture from the Word of God where we are told to trust in Mary, by reciting theRosaryto be saved. In fact, the word "Rosary" is NOT a Bible term. TheRosary is straight out of the pits of Hell. Jesus condemnedvain repetitionin Matthew 6:7. According toOur Lady of Fatima(whose teachings are officially sanctioned by the Vatican), a person can obtain eternal life through Mary by reciting the Rosary. In sharp contrast, Jesus Christ proclaimed in John 14:6... "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me." How could Catholics be so arrogant, so blind, and so apostate as to believe that salvation is found in Mary? I tell you, Catholicism is of the Devil.

The Gospel of Jesus Christ has absolutely nothing to do with Mary. None of the Apostles ever mentioned Mary in their Epistles. Jesus never directed us to recognize Mary. In fact, the Bible clearly states in Matthew 11:11 that there has never been a child born amongst women greater thanJohn the Baptist. And no wonder, becauseJohn the Baptistprepared the people for the coming of the Savior—Jesus Christ,the Lamb of God which taketh away the sins of the world(John 1:29). Yet, Catholics sinfully worship Mary, bowing to her statue as if she's a god.Unbelievably, during one rosary recital (a chaplet), a Catholic will recite 53 hail Marys! Each "Hail Mary" recital is 42 words long. 42 x 53 = 2,226 words just praising Mary! The devout Catholic who prays the rosary every day will praise Mary with 812,490 words in a year's time. That is idolatry! Again,Our Lady of Fatimasaid...

The soul which recommends itself to Me by the recitation of the Rosary, shall not perish. —SOURCE

That's a BIG LIE!!! The Vatican has a lot of explaining to do, because something smells very rotten. One of the most unholy groups in this world is the Holy See, i.e., Catholic leadership. They wrote the book on self-righteousness. No devout Catholic dare deny the promises ofOur Lady of Fatima, i.e., theirBlessed Virgin Mary. The Catholic Mary (which is nowhere even close to the Biblical Mary) claims to have the power to save those who recite the Rosary. No wonder Catholicism's Mary is often referred to asThe Great Whore. Catholics have mutated Jesus' earthly mother into a two-headed, fire-breathing, demonic, monster.

The Biblical Mary was a horrible sinner (James 2:10), who needed a Savior (Luke 1:47), and told others to do what Jesus commanded (John 2:5). The Biblical Mary was not aPerpetual Virgin(Matthew 13:55-56), was notImmaculately Conceived(Romans 3:23), wasn'tBodily Assumedinto Heaven (Hebrews 9:27), and she doesn't intercede on our behalf (1st Timothy 2:5... "For there is one God, andone mediatorbetween God and men, the man Christ Jesus"). TheBlessed Virgin Maryof the Catholic religion is straight from Hell.

Oh! Listen my friend, the Catholic Church is aprisonhouseof religion! Catholics have churchianity without Christianity, and religion without truth. From the cradle to the casket, the Catholic Church offers people a package deal; but it's a guaranteed road straight into the depths of Hellfire and damnation. In Luke 17:21, Jesus stated that theKingdom of Godis within you; not within a religious organization. Many people want an organized religion that allows them to touch, taste, see, and feel what they're trusting in for eternal life. However, true salvation, which is obtained onlyby faithin Christ Jesus, isof the heart(Romans 10:10).
 

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This is the topic where other denominations answer questions for Protestants.
Let's begin.

Q. Where in the Bible does it say to worship Mary?
A. It doesn't. This comes mainly from tradition.

Q. Do they really worship Mary or do they respect her like other saints like Paul?
A. This depends on the church and the growth of the Christian. Technically, they're not supposed to worship Mary, they are to respect her, but some people do worship her.

Q. What's the deal with the icons?
A. Icons are meant to be a gateway to your emotion towards God. So you're not idolizing a piece of wood or iron.

What else do you guys need to know?
 

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Q. Why does the Orthodox Church and the Catholic Church pray for the dead?
A. 3 main reasons.
1. There are various verses in the Bible which say that the soul lives on, the main one is Jesus on the mountain with Moses and Elijah.
2. Apocrypha books, which are rejected by the Protestants and
3. A bit of tradition involved too. In the middle eastern and Mediterranean culture, we don't consider the dead as gone but on another plane of existence waiting for a bodily resurrection as it says on the Bible.
 

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Q. Why do the Catholics and Orthodox make the sign of the cross on their chest?
A. There's nothing more identifiable than this, to be a Christian and to say that the cross reminds us of Jesus' sacrifice and resurrection. It's spiritual armor basically. I do it constantly to show gratefulness and thankfulness to God for anything.
Before i eat, i make the cross and i say thank you for this meal. And i also do it for a hundred other things during the day.
 

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Q. Do they really worship Mary or do they respect her like other saints like Paul?
A. This depends on the church and the growth of the Christian. Technically, they're not supposed to worship Mary, they are to respect her, but some people do worship her.
If you carefully check the words of the traditional Latin Mass, Mary is given the same level of worship as God.

And where does the Bible say that we are to confess our sins to the following: Mary, Michael the Archangel, John the Baptist, and Peter and Paul? If they were to address this Mass, they would severely rebuke the priest. These people are on the same level as Almighty God!

THE TRADITIONAL LATIN MASSS
"I confess to Almighty God, to blessed Mary ever Virgin, to blessed Michael the Archangel, to blessed John the Baptist, to the holy Apostles Peter and Paul, to all the Saints, and to you Father, that I have sinned exceedingly, in thought, word and deed:

He strikes his breast three times through my fault, through my fault, through my most grievous fault.

Therefore I beseech blessed Mary ever Virgin, blessed John the Baptist, the holy Apostles Peter and Paul, all the Saints, and you Father, to pray to the Lord our God for me."

Now where is the Lord Jesus Christ in all this? Has Mary not replaced Him here. In practical terms, Mary is treated as a substitute for Christ, and Salve Regina proves it:

Hail, Holy Queen, Mother of Mercy,
our life, our sweetness and our hope.
To thee do we cry,
poor banished children of Eve.
To thee do we send up our sighs,
mourning and weeping in this valley of tears.
Turn then, most gracious advocate,
thine eyes of mercy toward us,
and after this our exile
show unto us the blessed fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
O clement, O loving,
O sweet Virgin Mary.
 

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This is the topic where other denominations answer questions for Protestants.
Let's begin.

Q. Where in the Bible does it say to worship Mary?
A. It doesn't. This comes mainly from tradition.

Q. Do they really worship Mary or do they respect her like other saints like Paul?
A. This depends on the church and the growth of the Christian. Technically, they're not supposed to worship Mary, they are to respect her, but some people do worship her.

Q. What's the deal with the icons?
A. Icons are meant to be a gateway to your emotion towards God. So you're not idolizing a piece of wood or iron.

What else do you guys need to know?
Are we practicing the art of resurrection with these old threads? 😎
 

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Q. Why does the Catholic and Orthodox church use incense?
A. Incenses is a bit like icons here to get us immersed with our 5 senses. There are also some OT verses that support incense.
 

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Why study a cult? Yes, it’s a very old and entrenched cult, but Catholicism is in the same category with LDS, JWs, Islam, Satanism, Buddhism, Hari Krishna, Scientology. I would almost include Calvinism since it skirts the edge of a cult.

Deception is impossible to overcome without the Holy Spirit.
 

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If you carefully check the words of the traditional Latin Mass, Mary is given the same level of worship as God.

And where does the Bible say that we are to confess our sins to the following: Mary, Michael the Archangel, John the Baptist, and Peter and Paul? If they were to address this Mass, they would severely rebuke the priest. These people are on the same level as Almighty God!

THE TRADITIONAL LATIN MASSS
"I confess to Almighty God, to blessed Mary ever Virgin, to blessed Michael the Archangel, to blessed John the Baptist, to the holy Apostles Peter and Paul, to all the Saints, and to you Father, that I have sinned exceedingly, in thought, word and deed:

He strikes his breast three times through my fault, through my fault, through my most grievous fault.

Therefore I beseech blessed Mary ever Virgin, blessed John the Baptist, the holy Apostles Peter and Paul, all the Saints, and you Father, to pray to the Lord our God for me."

Now where is the Lord Jesus Christ in all this? Has Mary not replaced Him here. In practical terms, Mary is treated as a substitute for Christ, and Salve Regina proves it:

Hail, Holy Queen, Mother of Mercy,
our life, our sweetness and our hope.
To thee do we cry,
poor banished children of Eve.
To thee do we send up our sighs,
mourning and weeping in this valley of tears.
Turn then, most gracious advocate,
thine eyes of mercy toward us,
and after this our exile
show unto us the blessed fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
O clement, O loving,
O sweet Virgin Mary.
Yes, good point.

Q. Why do the Catholic and Orthodox believe in intercession prayers?
A. Besides support from some OT verses, this also weighs a bit heavy on the tradition side, however most Catholics and Orthodox know that Jesus is the highest authority on Earth and Heaven as part of the Holy Trinity, so they never lose sight of that, or they should not lose sight of that, but tradition has made its way into this habit of intercession prayers.
 

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Why study a cult? Yes, it’s a very old and entrenched cult, but Catholicism is in the same category with LDS, JWs, Islam, Satanism, Buddhism, Hari Krishna, Scientology. I would almost include Calvinism since it skirts the edge of a cult.

Why should we ask someone why they’re deceived. They don’t know why they worship the way they do, they just do.
Calm down buddy, this is a thread to help Protestants with their questions.
Do you have any questions?
 

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Calm down buddy, this is a thread to help Protestants with their questions.
Do you have any questions?
What’s a Protestant again? Are there a lot of them running around?
 

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What’s a Protestant again? Are there a lot of them running around?
A Protestant is someone who rejects old tradition, while being in a new tradition.
 

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Hmm, 🤔 So that would be Catholics?
That would be technically correct. ;)
But this topic is about understanding differences because it might help to see your other fellow Christians as humans.
 

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That would be technically correct. ;)
But this topic is about understanding differences because it might help to see your other fellow Christians as humans.
Fellow Christians? We’re talking about Catholics right? A Christian has way different beliefs than Catholics, and all the other ones mentioned above. They’re still people, don’t get me wrong, but to say they’re Christian is to include all the other ones - LDS, JWs, Buddhists, HKs, Muslims, etc. Sure, they’re all loosely based out of the Bible but Jesus us diminished and another person is shown to be equal or above Him.

I’m not meaning to be offensive in any way toward other religions.
 

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Fellow Christians? We’re talking about Catholics right? A Christian has way different beliefs than Catholics, and all the other ones mentioned above. They’re still people, don’t get me wrong, but to say they’re Christian is to include all the other ones - LDS, JWs, Buddhists, HKs, Muslims, etc. sure they’re all loosely based out of the Bible but Jesus us diminished and another person is shown to be equal or above Him.
Hold on hold on, slow down. The speed limit is 30MPH on residential neighborhoods. Buddhist? Muslims?
Do you have a question of Salvation here?

I don't know about Catholics but Salvation in the Orthodox Church is understood as Theois which is a long topic onto itself, but summarized it means that only God knows who goes to Heaven or Hell.
 

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Luke 1:26-30
26 And in the sixth month, the angel Gabriel was sent from God into a city of Galilee, called Nazareth, 27 To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary. 28 And the angel being come in, said unto her: Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women. 29 Who having heard, was troubled at his saying, and thought with herself what manner of salutation this should be. 30 And the angel said to her: Fear not, Mary, for thou hast found grace with God.
 

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Luke 1:41-45
41 And it came to pass, that when Elizabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the infant leaped in her womb. And Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost: 42 And she cried out with a loud voice, and said: Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb. 43 And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? 44 For behold as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in my ears, the infant in my womb leaped for joy. 45 And blessed art thou that hast believed, because those things shall be accomplished that were spoken to thee by the Lord.
 

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Luke 1:26-30
26 And in the sixth month, the angel Gabriel was sent from God into a city of Galilee, called Nazareth, 27 To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary. 28 And the angel being come in, said unto her: Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women. 29 Who having heard, was troubled at his saying, and thought with herself what manner of salutation this should be. 30 And the angel said to her: Fear not, Mary, for thou hast found grace with God.
Luke 1:41-45
41 And it came to pass, that when Elizabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the infant leaped in her womb. And Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost: 42 And she cried out with a loud voice, and said: Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb. 43 And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? 44 For behold as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in my ears, the infant in my womb leaped for joy. 45 And blessed art thou that hast believed, because those things shall be accomplished that were spoken to thee by the Lord.

Yes, good point.
Q. Why do Catholics or Orthodox say 'The Mother of God"? God has no mother.
A. They refer to her as the "Mother of God" in the flesh, because obviously everyone knows that Mary is not God.