My local grocery store has LGBTQ+ flag celebratory balloons and

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It makes me feel uncomfortable. You know grocery stores have a balloon section near the front and check-out areas. Mostly birthday balloons or graduation or other holidays balloons. 1 of my local grocery stores had gay pride balloons all over the entrance during June pride month. June came and went thankfully. I went in recently this week and near the checkout stand is a large unicorn balloon with the gay rainbow on the horns. As I was checking out and looked up and saw the large pride unicorn, my brain processed what it meant and I felt gross!

I have gay friends, support gay marriage and support people being being able to live in their truth. I support gay men not being forced onto women but instead being able to date and marry other lgbtq men. I also support them having pride month parades and celebrations.
Why do mainstream promotions of gay ‘pride’ make me feel uncomfortable?

I feel like when it’s mainstreamed and promoted it makes me question right vs. wrong and I need to get home and talk to God. I also feel like I need to stay out of that 1 pariticular grocery store.

Is something wrong with me? I don’t judge people or care about how they live but am uncomfortable with celebratory gay pride balloons once I realize what it’s celebrating :unsure:😔. I feel bad as I support the LGBTQ community but I’m uncomfortable with it being promoted as normal. It makes me confused on what’s wrong vs. right.
 
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It makes me feel uncomfortable. You know grocery stores have a balloon section near the front and check-out areas. Mostly birthday balloons or graduation or other holidays balloons. 1 of my local grocery stores had gay pride balloons all over the entrance during June pride month. June came and went thankfully. I went in recently this week and near the checkout stand is a large unicorn balloon with the gay rainbow on the horns. As I was checking out and looked up and saw the large pride unicorn, my brain processed what it meant and I felt gross!

I have gay friends, support gay marriage and support people being being able to live in their truth. I support gay men not being forced onto women but instead being able to date and marry other lgbtq men. I also support them having pride month parades and celebrations.
Why do mainstream promotions of gay ‘pride’ make me feel uncomfortable?

I feel like when it’s mainstreamed and promoted it makes me question right vs. wrong and I need to get home and talk to God. I also feel like I need to stay out of that 1 pariticular grocery store.

Is something wrong with me? I don’t judge people or care about how they live but am uncomfortable with celebratory gay pride balloons once I realize what it’s celebrating :unsure:😔. I feel bad as I support the LGBTQ community but I’m uncomfortable with it being promoted as normal. It makes me confused on what’s wrong vs. right.
I guess I need support and want to know if my reaction is wrong or sinful. I live in a suburban area with mostly families, not in a major city or gay area. I don’t know if my being uncomfortable in that 1 grocery store and seeing gay pride balloons prominently displayed is wrong or not. Once I see them, process what it means, I feel I need to get home and talk to God. I feel confused on what’s wrong vs. right and I don’t know if it’s normal to feel so uncomfortable 😨
 

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It makes me feel uncomfortable. You know grocery stores have a balloon section near the front and check-out areas. Mostly birthday balloons or graduation or other holidays balloons. 1 of my local grocery stores had gay pride balloons all over the entrance during June pride month. June came and went thankfully. I went in recently this week and near the checkout stand is a large unicorn balloon with the gay rainbow on the horns. As I was checking out and looked up and saw the large pride unicorn, my brain processed what it meant and I felt gross!

I have gay friends, support gay marriage and support people being being able to live in their truth. I support gay men not being forced onto women but instead being able to date and marry other lgbtq men. I also support them having pride month parades and celebrations.
Why do mainstream promotions of gay ‘pride’ make me feel uncomfortable?

I feel like when it’s mainstreamed and promoted it makes me question right vs. wrong and I need to get home and talk to God. I also feel like I need to stay out of that 1 pariticular grocery store.

Is something wrong with me? I don’t judge people or care about how they live but am uncomfortable with celebratory gay pride balloons once I realize what it’s celebrating :unsure:😔. I feel bad as I support the LGBTQ community but I’m uncomfortable with it being promoted as normal. It makes me confused on what’s wrong vs. right.

Hi Gina,

I just want to ask something as clarification.

In your last thread, you said that you had enjoyed your relationships with men, enjoyed physical affection and "making out," but were terrified of sex and saw it as being gross.

In this thread, you say you fully support the LGBTQ community, but feel grossed out by commercial displays of it.

I am now wondering, is this a common pattern for you? Liking or supporting various things in general, but then hating something very closely related to the same issues?

And continuously wondering if you're normal because of it?

The reason I ask is because I am wondering if this is some kind of behavioral/psychological pattern for you, and if you approach a number of things in life this way, and in that case, it might be an underlying issue more than the topics themselves.

You have said that you are a 40-year-old woman, so I'm just wondering what might be in the background that causes you to be so confused about discernment, and instead develop polar opposite reactions, simultaneously.

Any idea where this is from?
 

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I guess I need support and want to know if my reaction is wrong or sinful. I live in a suburban area with mostly families, not in a major city or gay area. I don’t know if my being uncomfortable in that 1 grocery store and seeing gay pride balloons prominently displayed is wrong or not. Once I see them, process what it means, I feel I need to get home and talk to God. I feel confused on what’s wrong vs. right and I don’t know if it’s normal to feel so uncomfortable 😨
Hi Gina,

I just want to ask something as clarification.

In your last thread, you said that you had enjoyed your relationships with men, enjoyed physical affection and "making out," but were terrified of sex and saw it as being gross.

In this thread, you say you fully support the LGBTQ community, but feel grossed out by commercial displays of it.

I am now wondering, is this a common pattern for you? Liking or supporting various things in general, but then hating something very closely related to the same issues?

And continuously wondering if you're normal because of it?

The reason I ask is because I am wondering if this is some kind of behavioral/psychological pattern for you, and if you approach a number of things in life this way, and in that case, it might be an underlying issue more than the topics themselves.

You have said that you are a 40-year-old woman, so I'm just wondering what might be in the background that causes you to be so confused about discernment, and instead develop polar opposite reactions, simultaneously.

Any idea where this is from?
The reason I'm asking you these questions is because I'm wondering if all your threads are going to be similar in that you feel positively about X, but Y, which is closely related to X, makes you feel uncomfortable, and that makes you wonder if you're normal.

I can't help but think of the old saying, "Where there's smoke, there's fire."

If all of your thoughts follow this same pattern -- that's the smoke, and I'm not one to chase clouds.

I like to start digging at what the source of the fire is as soon as possible.

So, may ask, what started your fire, and what's fanning the flames that are keeping it going?
 
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Hi Gina,

I just want to ask something as clarification.

In your last thread, you said that you had enjoyed your relationships with men, enjoyed physical affection and "making out," but were terrified of sex and saw it as being gross.

In this thread, you say you fully support the LGBTQ community, but feel grossed out by commercial displays of it.

I am now wondering, is this a common pattern for you? Liking or supporting various things in general, but then hating something very closely related to the same issues?

And continuously wondering if you're normal because of it?

The reason I ask is because I am wondering if this is some kind of behavioral/psychological pattern for you, and if you approach a number of things in life this way, and in that case, it might be an underlying issue more than the topics themselves.

You have said that you are a 40-year-old woman, so I'm just wondering what might be in the background that causes you to be so confused about discernment, and instead develop polar opposite reactions, simultaneously.

Any idea where this is from?
I was merely raised to not have sex before marriage, to put it simply. I’ve never been ready for sexual intercourse because I’ve never been close to or married yet. I do however enjoy being in a relationship. Like most women my hope was that dating would eventually lead to marriage. Does that make sense?

As for this topic, I don’t think it’s polar opposites. I believe people should be allowed to live in their truths but am uncomfortable with what sometimes seems like a promotion or normalization of homosexuality I guess. Balloons are celebratory (they’re grouped with the birthday, graduation, and other holiday balloons). I guess when I see large rainbow flag unicorn and other ‘pride’ lgbt+ party balloons in a mainstream grocery store, I feel like it’s a celebration of homosexuality and I feel uncomfortable and conflicted. Is it wrong for me to feel that way?
 

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How can you support certain causes that make you feel uncomfortable?
 
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How can you support certain causes that make you feel uncomfortable?
I’m merely saying that I’ve always been live and let live. There will always be different type of people in a society. I don’t think everything needs to be shoved in our faces though or that everything needs to be pushed as normal when it’s abnormal. The lifestyle, not the people per se.
 

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I’m merely saying that I’ve always been live and let live. There will always be different type of people in a society. I don’t think everything needs to be shoved in our faces though or that everything needs to be pushed as normal when it’s abnormal. The lifestyle, not the people per se.
It IS polar opposites. You're saying you support gay marriage, but then saying that normalizing homosexuality is wrong. Approving of gay marriage is the Ultimate normalization of homosexuality. It is saying that it is no different than a hetero relationship and should be treated the exact same way. How is that not normalization?

And it's funny that you support peoples rights to be gay and married then turn around and say it's being forced on people because of some balloons in a grocery store.

And you think God will be upset that you feel bothered by being against the promotion of homosexuality? God refers to homosexuality as an abomination. He's more likely bothered by your support of homosexuality and your double mindedness on the matter.
 
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It IS polar opposites. You're saying you support gay marriage, but then saying that normalizing homosexuality is wrong. Approving of gay marriage is the Ultimate normalization of homosexuality. It is saying that it is no different than a hetero relationship and should be treated the exact same way. How is that not normalization?

And it's funny that you support peoples rights to be gay and married then turn around and say it's being forced on people because of some balloons in a grocery store.

And you think God will be upset that you feel bothered by being against the promotion of homosexuality? God refers to homosexuality as an abomination. He's more likely bothered by your support of homosexuality and your double mindedness on the matter.
Some of the nicest people and most loyal people I’ve met have been LGBTQ+ though. I think of marriage as more of promoting monogamy among all. I think it’s a whole different issue though to promote that lifestyle. It will confuse many people of wrong vs. right and normal vs. abnormal. I get what you’re saying though.
 

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It makes me feel uncomfortable. You know grocery stores have a balloon section near the front and check-out areas. Mostly birthday balloons or graduation or other holidays balloons. 1 of my local grocery stores had gay pride balloons all over the entrance during June pride month. June came and went thankfully. I went in recently this week and near the checkout stand is a large unicorn balloon with the gay rainbow on the horns. As I was checking out and looked up and saw the large pride unicorn, my brain processed what it meant and I felt gross!

I have gay friends, support gay marriage and support people being being able to live in their truth. I support gay men not being forced onto women but instead being able to date and marry other lgbtq men. I also support them having pride month parades and celebrations.
Why do mainstream promotions of gay ‘pride’ make me feel uncomfortable?

I feel like when it’s mainstreamed and promoted it makes me question right vs. wrong and I need to get home and talk to God. I also feel like I need to stay out of that 1 pariticular grocery store.

Is something wrong with me? I don’t judge people or care about how they live but am uncomfortable with celebratory gay pride balloons once I realize what it’s celebrating :unsure:😔. I feel bad as I support the LGBTQ community but I’m uncomfortable with it being promoted as normal. It makes me confused on what’s wrong vs. right.
You are far more accepting than I am. Homosexuality is an abomination to God. However, we have no business judging the world. God is doing that. The word says that bad company corrupts good morals. Unless you are called to witness, I'd avoid those who openly promote the abomination. I would not associate with thieves, those who are compulsive liars or who are in adulterous relationships either. Sin is sin. We need to be careful that we are not seen to be condoning sin. To me, gay marriage is an oxymoron. God created male and female and instituted marriage between them. The world can call a cat a dog, but it does not make it true. Same sex unions should not be called marriage for exactly the same reason.
 

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Some of the nicest people and most loyal people I’ve met have been LGBTQ+ though. I think of marriage as more of promoting monogamy among all. I think it’s a whole different issue though to promote that lifestyle. It will confuse many people of wrong vs. right and normal vs. abnormal. I get what you’re saying though.
Niceness does not get you into heaven or qualify you for the kingdom of God. There are nice sinners and not so nice. God judges on nature, not on personality.
 
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You are far more accepting than I am. Homosexuality is an abomination to God. However, we have no business judging the world. God is doing that. The word says that bad company corrupts good morals. Unless you are called to witness, I'd avoid those who openly promote the abomination. I would not associate with thieves, those who are compulsive liars or who are in adulterous relationships either. Sin is sin. We need to be careful that we are not seen to be condoning sin. To me, gay marriage is an oxymoron. God created male and female and instituted marriage between them. The world can call a cat a dog, but it does not make it true. Same sex unions should not be called marriage for exactly the same reason.
I get what you’re saying however without the ability of gays to marry each other, they will be forced to pursue and marry straights. This is especially not healthy for women. diseases are bridged over to straight women that way!

in China, Africa and elsewhere where gay marriage is not allowed, there’s so many gay men married to women but not really ‘in’ the relationship. Some women suffer abuse or get diseases from their gay husbands sleeping with men behind their backs because the men are not really attracted to them but only marrying women because of societal expectations. Therefore, I support the right of gays to marry each other. I also believe all segments of society should be promoting a single lifetime partner and monogamy.

I think one can support that as well as be anti-discrimination for them as well, at the same time not ok with the promotion of homosexuality to the rest of society, and especially not to kids as ‘cool’!
 

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As for this topic, I don’t think it’s polar opposites. I believe people should be allowed to live in their truths but am uncomfortable with what sometimes seems like a promotion or normalization of homosexuality I guess. Balloons are celebratory (they’re grouped with the birthday, graduation, and other holiday balloons). I guess when I see large rainbow flag unicorn and other ‘pride’ lgbt+ party balloons in a mainstream grocery store, I feel like it’s a celebration of homosexuality and I feel uncomfortable and conflicted. Is it wrong for me to feel that way?
I'm truly not understanding how or why you can't see your own polar opposite stances in your own posts.

You say you "support gay marriage and allowing people to live their truth," but at the same time, you say that balloons and unicorns make you feel like it's "a celebration of homosexuality" and that you feel "uncomfortable and conflicted."

I'm not meaning to sound funny, but maybe you're just uncomfortable around or afraid of balloons, celebrations, and unicorns? (After all, in the other thread, someone pinpointed that it wasn't sex you seemed to be afraid of, but rather, the male body.)

Because I'm genuinely not understanding how your thoughts of "I'm ok with supporting gay marriage" suddenly turn into, "Oh no, unicorns and balloons and celebrations! Now I feel uneasy!"

And, I just read your last post.

Where did your obsession with suspecting every man/husband is a closeted homosexual who will sleep with his straight wife and give her diseases come from?

I'm not saying this doesn't happen, I'm just saying, from your last thread and now this one, you seem absolutely convinced that every man is like this.

Why?
 

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Some of the nicest people and most loyal people I’ve met have been LGBTQ+ though. I think of marriage as more of promoting monogamy among all. I think it’s a whole different issue though to promote that lifestyle. It will confuse many people of wrong vs. right and normal vs. abnormal. I get what you’re saying though.
Nice and loyal are irrelevant factors. There are nice and loyal people among all sorts of factions, races and beliefs.

The entire point of gay marriage was to promote normalization. To say "we are no different and we deserve the same as heterosexual couples". To deny that is willful blindness.
Also gay marriage tends to have equal, if not more, cheating and abuse as straight couples.
Also how does gay marriage promote monogamy? Doesn't straight marriage promote that? Do people need to have monogamy promoted to then through abomination? How can you separate the two? When people hear gay marriage they aren't thinking monogamy.

So gay marriage doesn't promote gay lifestyle? How does that work?

To promote gay lifestyles will confuse people but to make it legal for them to marry Won't confuse people? How does that work?

The backing and support of something is a form of promotion of that thing. You can't back gay marriage but think promoting homosexuality is wrong because you're already promoting it yourself. That's why you're confused.

Also I'm curious to your response to God seeing homosexuality as an abomination. You conveniently left that response out.
 
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I'm truly not understanding how or why you can't see your own polar opposite stances in your own posts.

You say you "support gay marriage and allowing people to live their truth," but at the same time, you say that balloons and unicorns make you feel like it's "a celebration of homosexuality" and that you feel "uncomfortable and conflicted."

I'm not meaning to sound funny, but maybe you're just uncomfortable around or afraid of balloons, celebrations, and unicorns? (After all, in the other thread, someone pinpointed that it wasn't sex you seemed to be afraid of, but rather, the male body.)

Because I'm genuinely not understanding how your thoughts of "I'm ok with supporting gay marriage" suddenly turn into, "Oh no, unicorns and balloons and celebrations! Now I feel uneasy!"

And, I just read your last post.

Where did your obsession with suspecting every man/husband is a closeted homosexual who will sleep with his straight wife and give her diseases come from?

I'm not saying this doesn't happen, I'm just saying, from your last thread and now this one, you seem absolutely convinced that every man is like this.

Why?
I don’t feel my views are ‘conflicting’ at all.

I mention gay men marrying women because it happened to a friend of mine. It also happens much more than you know! You do know many of the Hollywood actors that ended up with AIDS some years ago and were sleeping with men were MARRIED to women right? It’s not as rare as you think! That’s why I mention it.
 
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I don’t feel my views are ‘conflicting’ at all.

I mention gay men marrying women because it happened to a friend of mine. It also happens much more than you know! You do know many of the Hollywood actors that ended up with AIDS some years ago and were sleeping with men were MARRIED to women right? It’s not as rare as you think! That’s why I mention it.
Note: gay in not a life choice,,,it's one body being turned over to the devil.
 

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I don’t feel my views are ‘conflicting’ at all.

I mention gay men marrying women because it happened to a friend of mine. It also happens much more than you know! You do know many of the Hollywood actors that ended up with AIDS some years ago and were sleeping with men were MARRIED to women right? It’s not as rare as you think! That’s why I mention it.
I don't live in Hollywood, and my friends and family aren't part of anything even closely resembling Hollywood.

My point is that you use Hollywood -- a culture of extreme wealth and no boundaries -- as an example, but that's not the culture most people live in.

And I do know that it doesn't just happen in Hollywood.

Yes, I've known a few instances in which someone turned the same sex and left their spouse (and sometimes it was a woman leaving for a woman.)

But it's just odd to me that you insist upon it as if every man is going to do that, and even odder that you would use Hollywood as your prime evidence (because Hollywood is anything but normal,) but you seem to have firmly made up your mind.
 
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Nice and loyal are irrelevant factors. There are nice and loyal people among all sorts of factions, races and beliefs.

The entire point of gay marriage was to promote normalization. To say "we are no different and we deserve the same as heterosexual couples". To deny that is willful blindness.
Also gay marriage tends to have equal, if not more, cheating and abuse as straight couples.
Also how does gay marriage promote monogamy? Doesn't straight marriage promote that? Do people need to have monogamy promoted to then through abomination? How can you separate the two? When people hear gay marriage they aren't thinking monogamy.

So gay marriage doesn't promote gay lifestyle? How does that work?

To promote gay lifestyles will confuse people but to make it legal for them to marry Won't confuse people? How does that work?

The backing and support of something is a form of promotion of that thing. You can't back gay marriage but think promoting homosexuality is wrong because you're already promoting it yourself. That's why you're confused.

Also I'm curious to your response to God seeing homosexuality as an abomination. You conveniently left that response out.
Of course it’s abnormal and not moral, but there’s always been and will always be gender dysphoria, feminine men and people wired in their brain to have same-sex attraction. Society should acknowledge that, but my discomfort comes from the feeling that some want to mainstream and pretend it’s normal or to be celebrated. I get that you’re saying gay marriage is an attempt to normalize it but I don’t see any other way to not have gay men pushed onto women. You have some guys who have spent their teens and college years having sex with other guys, some of them end up with HIV and other stds. these guys should not forced by society to marry women! I do get what point you’re making though.
There is no ‘straight pride’ though, so if we promote rainbows as a celebration of gay life and promote celebrating homosexuality, this will blur the lines of wrong vs. right to society!
 
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I don't live in Hollywood, and my friends and family aren't part of anything even closely resembling Hollywood.

My point is that you use Hollywood -- a culture of extreme wealth and no boundaries -- as an example, but that's not the culture most people live in.

And I do know that it doesn't just happen in Hollywood.

Yes, I've known a few instances in which someone turned the same sex and left their spouse (and sometimes it was a woman leaving for a woman.)

But it's just odd to me that you insist upon it as if every man is going to do that, and even odder that you would use Hollywood as your prime evidence (because Hollywood is anything but normal,) but you seem to have firmly made up your mind.
Money does not change what was not there already.
 

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Of course it’s abnormal and not moral... (edit.) I get that you’re saying gay marriage is an attempt to normalize it but I don’t see any other way to not have gay men pushed onto women. You have some guys who have spent their teens and college years having sex with other guys, some of them end up with HIV and other stds. these guys should not forced by society to marry women! I do get what point you’re making though.
There is no ‘straight pride’ though, so if we promote rainbows as a celebration of gay life and promote celebrating homosexuality, this will blur the lines of wrong vs. right to society!

So the whole moral of your story is:

1. As in your first thread (about being afraid of the male body,) you believe all men are closeted homosexuals or bisexuals.

2. You assume that because of this, all men will eventually cheat on their straight wives and infect them with HIV or other diseases.

3. You are saying that the only way to corral these horrible gay/bi men who are all lusting for each other is to promote allowing them to marry each other, so that they won't go out and infect all the innocent straight women out there.

Once again.

WHY the obsession with thinking every man is sleeping with men, has AIDS, and is going to infect a straight woman?

Yes, it happens.

But why on earth do you think this is ALWAYS going to happen, to the point of supporting gay marriage as a way to supposedly curb it?