KJV translators weren't KJV only!
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You're narrowing the focus of "condemned" to make it mean what you want it to mean, but that's clearly not the meaning intended. It can also mean "to be sharply scolded." It comes from "condemn" which can mean blame, strongly criticize, denounce or excoriate.
This is what's so frustrating for me about KJV onlyists; that is, you refuse to see clearly what's right in front of you.
This is what's so frustrating for me about KJV onlyists; that is, you refuse to see clearly what's right in front of you.
Peter simply was to be blamed, according to the kjv.
But if the ESV is correct, then he "stood condemned"...
And I am not trying to make that say something other than what it plainly says.
Condemned, means, condemned.
And the point that I am making is that there is a difference in doctrine when you go from translation to translation.
But if the ESV is correct, then he "stood condemned"...
And I am not trying to make that say something other than what it plainly says.
Condemned, means, condemned.
And the point that I am making is that there is a difference in doctrine when you go from translation to translation.
So by one act of imprudence, by not eating with Gentiles on this one occasion, by one "sin" if you will, he fell out of grace, according to the ESV? Galatians 2:12 says he formerly ate with Gentiles, so it wasn't an ongoing thing.
I believe a person can fall out of grace, but even I don't believe a person can fall from grace by one sin, or one indiscretion. It's ridiculous.
I believe a person can fall out of grace, but even I don't believe a person can fall from grace by one sin, or one indiscretion. It's ridiculous.
Not misleading but inaccurate. Both the Received Text and the Critical Text have the word κατεγνωσμένος (kategnōsmenos) which means condemned or blamed. So it was not a matter of right or wrong but whether he was blameworthy or not. So "stood condemned" accurately represents what is in the text. But the KJV has "was to be blamed" which is the alternative.
Strong's Concordance
kataginóskó: to blame
Original Word: καταγινώσκω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: kataginóskó
Phonetic Spelling: (kat-ag-in-o'-sko)
Definition: to blame
Usage: I condemn, blame.
Strong's Concordance
kataginóskó: to blame
Original Word: καταγινώσκω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: kataginóskó
Phonetic Spelling: (kat-ag-in-o'-sko)
Definition: to blame
Usage: I condemn, blame.
Obviously, "stood condemned" means something other than "stood condemned".
I can agree with you on that; and therefore it should be clear that it is expedient for us to reject the ESV's rendering.
But, again, the point is that there can be a change in doctrine as we go from translation to translation.
I can agree with you on that; and therefore it should be clear that it is expedient for us to reject the ESV's rendering.
But, again, the point is that there can be a change in doctrine as we go from translation to translation.
I disagree. Doctrine is a summary of scriptural teaching on a subject. Generally, one should not be building a doctrine on a single translation anyway. However, in this case, that isn’t the issue. Rather, it appears to me that you’re being stubborn in your unwillingness to accept any explanation other than your own.