Do you believe the gospel given to the apostle Paul by Christ ?

His profile states not Christian

And is that not what I said? Who's debating? But you omitted Christ's resurrection, and without that there is no Gospel.

That is the Gospel the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ for we must believe that God rose Him again to be saved and that He washed away our sins to be right with God.

Luk 13:2 And Jesus answering said unto them, Suppose ye that these Galilaeans were sinners above all the Galilaeans, because they suffered such things?
Luk 13:3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
Luk 13:4 Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem?
Luk 13:5 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

Rom 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
Rom 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
Rom 6:5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection.

We identify with the man Christ which He died, was buried, and rose again, and we repent, are water baptized, and receive the Holy Spirit.

There is no GOSPEL Paul!
It is the gospel of JESUS CHRIST.
Jesus ,not Paul is the one who paid our sin debt to God!

I can not watch this atrosity of unlearned ignorance!


Bye thread!

Gal 1:11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
Gal 1:12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

The law of Christ can be written on the heart of we hear and believe the gospel not moses law

Moses gave israel thier law to condemn and convict of sin.

We don’t want this on our heart

“Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.

Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭3:19-20‬ ‭KJV‬‬

that law is for these folk

“Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;”
‭‭1 Timothy‬ ‭1:9-10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

We can’t be those folk we have to be born again by the gospel

“Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.”
‭‭John‬ ‭3:5-6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

we aren’t beholden to Moses word

“Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:45‬ ‭KJV‬‬

it’s an accusation against any and all sinners and isn’t Christian doctrine

we don’t have Moses “ eye for an eye tooth for a tooth life for life sound for wound “ written on our heart we have what Jesus said in the gospel and we believe written on our heart “ do not repay evil with evil , forgive the sin against you be as your Heavenly Father “

it’s actually impossible to obey Moses word and Jesus word because they are contrary. The law of Moses was written on stone and ministered death to the hearers the gospel ministers life to the hearers. Two seperate laws one for sin and death another for a new birth and life with freedom from sin

The apostles gathered to decide if Moses law belongs in Christianity

“But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.

And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter.

thier conclusion

….Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God: But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.

…Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment: It seemed good unto us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men unto you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul, For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;

That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭15:5-6, 19-20, 24-25, 28-29‬ ‭KJV‬‬


Moses law isn’t for us what Christ said is for us it’s actually not possible to follow
Moses word and Christs word they are contrary at too Many points what Moses said is for unsoiritual sinners without a heart for repentance

the gospel is for the heart ready to repent and receive the holy soirit and be born again into a living hope not a law of condemnation

“Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.

Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭3:19-20‬ ‭KJV‬‬

we don’t live under that law we live by the gospel apart from Moses law

“But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭3:21‬ ‭KJV‬‬

the law of Moses is not Christian doctrine it is what convicts of sin and leaves the world needing salvation by Jesus and the gospel

“I live under the new covenant given to ALL mankind by Jesus!”

amen me too !!! It’s far better I’m glad we aren’t here

“Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;”
‭‭1 Timothy‬ ‭1:9-10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

but here !!

“Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away: But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.”
‭‭1 Peter‬ ‭1:23-25‬ ‭KJV‬‬

You are totally misunderstanding dispensation teaching. Your last statement is false. The cross was always the plan, but kept a mystery since the world began. Not until after the cross did the Lord reveal the meaning of His d,b,r for sins and how everlasting life was possible through belief.

Can you post an example!

I was just reading through this thread.. And noticed you wanted an example Jesus teaching the good news:

and saying, “The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel.”. Mark 1:15

The good news is Jesus, his life, death and resurrection. God reveals himself in His word and ultimately in and through Christ.

So the gospels are the good news. The rest of the NT fleshes this out in its application for believers. I love Paul's great skill in using the Old Testament to show how Christ fulfilled all things particularly the Abrahanic covenant, where salvation is by grace. Christ fulfils this and more.

Jesus did not cancel any of the spirit of the law that Moses gave, only the freshly commands that he gave. When the command not to murder was given in stone, Christ explained that law making it the true law of the Lord, the spirit of the law given in our hearts. When Christ took away the command to physically cut flesh as a sign of circumcision, Christ did not take away the need for us to be circumcised, only the need to cut flesh.

Really. Can you read the text in
Paul received the gospel from Christ.
Jesus preached the gospel of the Kingdom.
Paul did not. Paul preached the gospel that he received from Christ, which was a mystery. It was hid until Christ revealed it to Paul.

Jesus nor me or Paul where saying that!,,,But to count it as not obtained yet
It is also a curse from god because we had to fall in order to be forgiven.Nor is it sometime you can earn.However i marvel that you would disagree with Paul! the 14th apostle and Jesus the creator of all things! ,,eternally-gratefull your answer is from pride! Your right and yet still wrong because you motive is pride.

That’s not preaching the death, burial and resurrection for sins. Can you post a passage where Christ or the disciples were specifically preaching the cross?

What Jesus revealed to Paul was not made known before.

The gospels reveal what Jesus accomplished, but the Lord used Paul to reveal the whys and wherefores.

Are you on medication ?