Gods Standard of Righteousness

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Blik

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eternally-gratefull said:
lol

You make me laugh all your times you have posted about the law

The law was made for the sinner not the righteous

if you need the law. Then you have a serious problem.

Christ did not sin. But he did not need the law. He did what we are commanded to do. Looked to love and serve others above himself

Thats the only thing you need.

But keep on trying to obey a law you can never obey.
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If you need the law of love, if you know love is the base of all law, then all this hum bug of yours about how you don't believe in the law of the Lord is misrepresenting what you actually believe in. The sad part of this is that what you teach is in rebellion to what you actually believe, trying to lead others to live outside of the law--and the law is the law of love. You are speaking out of both sides of your mouth, as a saying puts it.
 
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justbyfaith

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eternally-gratefull said:
Why?

That was another thread that denied the truth.

Entire sanctification is perfection. We will not reach that until we are ressurected.

Don;t bring another crap thread of lies and false truths into this one.
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No, it does not deny the truth.

if anyone will read what is in the OP of that thread, they will see that it is based on the teaching of holy scripture.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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justbyfaith said:
An agreement between two parties.

While a testament must be ratified by the death of the testator.
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The abrahamic covenant was not an agreement between two parties.

You are wrong on this one
 
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Blik said:
If you need the law of love, if you know love is the base of all law, then all this hum bug of yours about how you don't believe in the law of the Lord is misrepresenting what you actually believe in. The sad part of this is that what you teach is in rebellion to what you actually believe, trying to lead others to live outside of the law--and the law is the law of love. You are speaking out of both sides of your mouth, as a saying puts it.
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Nope

The law of love is all I need.

The law of moses can;t help me anymore than it already has. It led me to christ.

No I seek to serve and love others

When you are stuck on rules. Your stuck looking inward not outward.

You can;t love others when you life is focused on obedience.

Your obedient when your focused on others.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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justbyfaith said:
No, it does not deny the truth.

if anyone will read what is in the OP of that thread, they will see that it is based on the teaching of holy scripture.
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Yes it does deny the truth

entire sanctification is when conditional sanctification and positional sanctification are equal

This is called glorification.
 
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justbyfaith

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eternally-gratefull said:
Nope

the law of sin and death is the ten commands. Called the minister of death written on stone

God wrote them on stone. Then moses destroyed them so they were written again.

Cursed is the one who does not obey every word.

that 1,000,000 foot hill is high. Don’t try to make it only 50 feet.
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If the law of sin and death is the ten commandments, then we walk in sin and death when we love one another (Romans 13:8-10).

Fortunately, I don't have to climb the hill. He brings me to the top of it on His "holy helicopter".
 
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eternally-gratefull

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justbyfaith said:
So, do you think that this righteousness is only imputed?

Or, is it also imparted (1 John 3:7, Romans 5:19, Matthew 5:6, Matthew 5:20).
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positional righteousness (justification) is imputed.

The law condemns you were you stand. You try to get to God by your own righteousness. God will cast you out.
 
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justbyfaith

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eternally-gratefull said:
Nope

The law of love is all I need.

The law of moses can;t help me anymore than it already has. It led me to christ.

No I seek to serve and love others

When you are stuck on rules. Your stuck looking inward not outward.

You can;t love others when you life is focused on obedience.

Your obedient when your focused on others.
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If you are truly loving and serving others then you don't need the law.

And also, when you are exposed to it, it will not identify you as a sinner.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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justbyfaith said:
It was an agreement between two parties; God and Abraham; even though Abraham was passive in the agreement.
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Nope

God did not tell abraham if you do this. He put abraham to sleep. And GOD walked down the middle. And he said I WILL

It is a binding unconditional covenant.

The mosaic covenant is an example of a two party covenant.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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justbyfaith said:
If you are truly loving and serving others then you don't need the law.

And also, when you are exposed to it, it will not identify you as a sinner.
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If your a child of God you don‘t need the law

If you claim your a believer and need the law. You have more problems than any church can help you with
 
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justbyfaith

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eternally-gratefull said:
Yes it does deny the truth

entire sanctification is when conditional sanctification and positional sanctification are equal

This is called glorification.
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It is obtainable in this life (1 Thessalonians 5:23-24 (kjv), Hebrews 10:14 (kjv), 1 John 3:9).

So it is obtainable before we are glorified (1 John 3:2-3).
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Charlie24 said:
My point is that the Law of of God is still demanded by God but not by our own doing.

His Law is kept by faith in Jesus Christ and carried out in our lives by Christ living through us as we yield to the guiding of the Holy Spirit.
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True

But not by us looking to the law. But by us looking to Christ.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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justbyfaith said:
It is obtainable in this life (1 Thessalonians 5:23-24 (kjv), Hebrews 10:14 (kjv), 1 John 3:9).

So it is obtainable before we are glorified (1 John 3:2-3).
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Nope

Because if you still sin. You are not entirely sanctified. You are still in the process of being sanctified.

You have a lot of learning to do my friend.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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justbyfaith said:
If the law of sin and death is the ten commandments, then we walk in sin and death when we love one another (Romans 13:8-10).

Fortunately, I don't have to climb the hill. He brings me to the top of it on His "holy helicopter".
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nope

because we love because God loved us/ Not because we follow the law

once again you just prove you have no fathom of what the law is.
 
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justbyfaith

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eternally-gratefull said:
positional righteousness (justification) is imputed.

The law condemns you were you stand. You try to get to God by your own righteousness. God will cast you out.
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That's why we enter in on His imputed righteousness.

Also, the practical righteousness of the law can be fulfilled in us if we walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit.

We do not base our salvation on our walking in the Spirit; but on the shed blood of Jesus.

Of course, the scripture does say this,

Rom 8:12, Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
Rom 8:13, For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
Rom 8:14, For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
 
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justbyfaith

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eternally-gratefull said:
Nope

God did not tell abraham if you do this. He put abraham to sleep. And GOD walked down the middle. And he said I WILL

It is a binding unconditional covenant.

The mosaic covenant is an example of a two party covenant.
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So, Abraham was not a party in the covenant; and therefore not the recipient of God's promise, is what you are saying.
 
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justbyfaith

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eternally-gratefull said:
If your a child of God you don‘t need the law

If you claim your a believer and need the law. You have more problems than any church can help you with
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The law is a factor in the sanctification process.

Because, by the law is the knowledge of sin (Romans 3:20).

And, we need to know what our sins are if we are going to confess them so that we may be cleansed from all unrighteousness (1 John 1:7-9).
 
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justbyfaith

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eternally-gratefull said:
Nope

Because if you still sin. You are not entirely sanctified. You are still in the process of being sanctified.

You have a lot of learning to do my friend.
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If we walk according to the Spirit, we do not sin, because the righteousness of the law is fulfilled in us (Romans 8:4, 1 John 3:6,9).

It is when we do not walk according to the Spirit but according to the flesh, when we sin.

We are not obligated to obey the flesh (Romans 8:12).
 
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