If the Earth were flat---

It is necessary.

How is anyone going to know where the critical reference of [due/true] 'north' is?

If you want to convince me - without my actually being there to witness it - you're going to do it in a way that is as-nearly-as-possible convincing as if I were there witnessing it myself.

You're willy-nilly suggestion of "just take my word for it" is simply not good enough.

Even "simple physics" - if it is good science - requires making/taking good accurate measurements and proper data recording.

In reality, those to whom you are trying to prove something decide what is "adequate proof" (for them).

If I am going to try to prove something to you - who decides what is "adequate proof" - you or me?

Be honest!

If I say the earth is flat and that what I am going to show you will be "adequate proof" - is that sufficient for you? Or, will you tell me "No, I will decide what will convince me." and expect me to accept that you have to be "convinced" on your terms?

I know you are smart enough to give the right answer here - the only question is - will you...???

If you think that I (or anyone else) is "asking too much" for proof - that is another issue altogether.

However, myself-and-others are not so weak-minded that we will accept your "just take my word for it" attitude and proposal without question.

I don't know how you came to that conclusion. One thing is for sure, they were a sight smarter than a lot of college educated kids today. The fact that you get to vote is courtesy of the Greeks. Quite a bit of the English language is based on Greek words. If you knew any history, you would know that they were a highly advanced civilisation. They were also corrupt in many ways, brutal, and slavery was the norm. They were smarter than the Englishman whose flawed experiment led him to the wrong conclusion.

And they believed in many gods.
Doesn't sound too smart to me.

You’re confusing “smart” with “wise”. Intelligence and spiritual orthodoxy are not synonymous or even causally related.

Did y'all know it's okay to let somebody be wrong?

If you meet somebody who is determinedly, obstinately wrong, somebody who ignores all evidence contrary to his own chosen viewpoint and insists on being wrong in the face of all reason, it is okay to just let him be wrong. Whether the Earth is flat or a ball, it will not crack wide open and swallow all of us if the person continues being wrong.

Really. It's okay to just let it go. I promise the sky will not fall down if you let people continue to be wrong.

1 Corinthians 1:18-19;
For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
For it is written; I will destroy the wisdom of the wise; the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate.

Proverbs 4:25;
Let your eyes look straight ahead; fix your gaze directly before you.

Don't get sidetracked.
Keep your eyes on Jesus.

I forget, which side are you on?

Yes, and? How does this support your previous post?

I'm sorry, you'll have to ask your rabbi about that.

Nah, I'm not even taking this thread seriously any more. I'm mostly scanning it for the entertainment value now.

It sure was nice though, back when we actually discussed things a few pages ago. A lot better than this peeing match y'all got going on now.

I'm sorry, you'll have to ask your rabbi about that.

You guys are a hoot...I needed a good laugh! More threads like this, please! Lol

I forget, which side are you on?