Russia Preparing for War.

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Pilgrimshope

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History is full of people who believe a personal prophecy and follow it to their doom.
Adoniram Judson is one...
The Children's Crusade...
The man who believed that God gave him the gift of tongues so he went to Egypt to preach even though he couldn't speak a word. He barely made it home alive.
Then there's those who suffer from Jerusalem Fever...wrap themselves in bed linens and preach when visiting Israel. (Happens so often they watch out for it)

Then there's those who shoot or blow up abortion clinics and doctors.
amen people of all makes and shapes and sizes and cultures throughout the generations the answer is there still in our Bible

“And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭24:14‬ ‭KJV‬‬
 
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sadly Christians can be led away from truth and begin to follow lies

“But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭2:1-2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Jim Jones comes to mind , a lot of good. Elieverd in that crowd but they were corrupted by a charismatic false teacher , jim Jones . Who knew the scripture well but used it to control the people rather than sending them to Christ and his teachings for salvation.


Over nine hundred people were dead including women and children later following that preacher who claimed to know the Bible so well the people no longer needed the Bible.

they all began as believers but we’re led astray by a false shepherd but we have Jesus and the gospel is available to all to believe and know his word

believers can be led astray by wrong doctrine to disbelieve the lord. And believe the wrong things like Adam and Eve
I fear that will never change. There are crooked leaders and there are folks looking for a leader to cling too. As the end times progresses there will be occurrences heretofore unseen.

The Bible says...end the end times there will be great deceptions....not one, not little but,.....great deceptions. .....plural.
 

Evmur

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Yes, but they want a Russia free from the unrelenting corruption.

Cossacks have a history of betrayal...but Russians have a history of chess match type dealings. Nothing is made simple and easy. Everyone mistrusts everyone.

So everyone is poor.
Come off it ... are you American ? talking about unrelenting corruption and oligarchs, didn't you ever hear of Wall St ?

Don't take me amiss, I love America, I love Americans ... but I do think politics stinks.
 

Nehemiah6

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They voted overwhelmingly for Crimea to belong to Russia ... they ARE Russian.
Crimean Tatars -- who were a majority at one time -- were deported to Siberia and Central Asia by the Soviets (along with Greeks and Bulgarians), but are now coming back. And they certainly would not vote for Crimea to belong to Russia. Furthermore there at least another 10 ethnic groups in Crimea, and they do not care for the Russians either.

The real issue is this: Why is Russia not content to look after itself and its citizens? Why is it constantly interfering in the affairs of other countries and trying to subvert other governments? The Russians have shown themselves to be a gang of thugs and bullies from way back. And the only thing Russia understand is force. Unfortunately, NATO has proved itself to be toothless, so Putin does as he pleases and gets away with it.
 

Journeyman

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When you hear of wars and rumors of wars, do not be alarmed. Mk.13:7
 

JohnDB

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Come off it ... are you American ? talking about unrelenting corruption and oligarchs, didn't you ever hear of Wall St ?

Don't take me amiss, I love America, I love Americans ... but I do think politics stinks.
Power itself doesn't corrupt.
Power attracts the corruptible.

A Swiss Bank is currently on their third CEO in as many years because of corruption.

And of course politicians are mostly corrupt.

But there's a difference. We don't prize the corruption. (Despite what Hollywood says)

America as a whole prizes integrity and honesty and openness. We even sent Martha Stewart to jail for corruption. That happy homemaker had to do time for insider trading.

We have a system of laws that is supposed to be blind and equal for everyone...making all men (and women) equal under the law. Even Bill Clinton had to face the music for Jennifer Flowers and Monica Lewinsky. (Secretaries are pretty but don't force them into relationships you shouldn't have)
Currently we still have a problem with the Washington DC interns. (And when they don't fix the situation there is going to be a backlash)

We, as a nation, value integrity and honesty. I can pull up any number of YouTube videos now that actually shine the light of truth on both Democrats and Republicans and the lies they tell. That goes from President to the House of Representatives...and every lie they tell on stump speeches. Currently the leader in the lying category is Biden. Biggest pandering case there ever was . You can tell he is lying because his lips are moving. Especially ones about Strom Thurmond over the recent Voting rights. (What he says never happened).

Faucci is of course in trouble. He has lied to everyone. His is coming. And those protecting him are going to get theirs too. They have him dead to rights with his own emails and his own testimony being the exact opposite.

It's called lying to Congress. Why he has done it I don't know...it's not like everyone didn't know when he said it.

The list is long...and the American people while quarantined have enough time to figure it out....so I expect a huge shake out of DC soon...and it won't stop till it's cleared.
 

Journeyman

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For there is nothingcovered, that shall not be revealed; neither hid, that shall notbe known. Lk.12:2

Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in hissight: but all things are naked andopened unto the eyes of him withwhom we have to do. Heb.4:13
 

Lanolin

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But we are looking at what God`s word says. God is about to bring the Russian Federation plus Iran, Libya and Ethiopia, to judgment on the mountains and fields of Israel. (Ez. 38: 5, 15 & 16)
yes well so

they already judged so many times its not funny

everyone is going to be judged in the end anyway. Even believers.

so what are you going to do about it? Just keep spreading the word and hope the Russians accept the gospel it will be their salvation.

Not much you can do about a bully but if leaders are truly converted it may make a difference. Then they can all sing a new song instead of propaganda.
 

Marilyn

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yes well so

they already judged so many times its not funny

everyone is going to be judged in the end anyway. Even believers.

so what are you going to do about it? Just keep spreading the word and hope the Russians accept the gospel it will be their salvation.

Not much you can do about a bully but if leaders are truly converted it may make a difference. Then they can all sing a new song instead of propaganda.
Hi Lanolin,

I am listening to the Lord and doing what He says to encourage and warn those around me & on the forums.

God has purposes for the Body of Christ, (to come to maturity) and for Israel, (deliverance & rulership) and for the nations, (judgment on those who come against Israel).

Hope that answers you question.

Marilyn.
 

Evmur

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Crimean Tatars -- who were a majority at one time -- were deported to Siberia and Central Asia by the Soviets (along with Greeks and Bulgarians), but are now coming back. And they certainly would not vote for Crimea to belong to Russia. Furthermore there at least another 10 ethnic groups in Crimea, and they do not care for the Russians either.

The real issue is this: Why is Russia not content to look after itself and its citizens? Why is it constantly interfering in the affairs of other countries and trying to subvert other governments? The Russians have shown themselves to be a gang of thugs and bullies from way back. And the only thing Russia understand is force. Unfortunately, NATO has proved itself to be toothless, so Putin does as he pleases and gets away with it.
I know British history very well ... do you?
I also know American history pretty well ... do you?
 

Evmur

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Power itself doesn't corrupt.
Power attracts the corruptible.

A Swiss Bank is currently on their third CEO in as many years because of corruption.

And of course politicians are mostly corrupt.

But there's a difference. We don't prize the corruption. (Despite what Hollywood says)

America as a whole prizes integrity and honesty and openness. We even sent Martha Stewart to jail for corruption. That happy homemaker had to do time for insider trading.

We have a system of laws that is supposed to be blind and equal for everyone...making all men (and women) equal under the law. Even Bill Clinton had to face the music for Jennifer Flowers and Monica Lewinsky. (Secretaries are pretty but don't force them into relationships you shouldn't have)
Currently we still have a problem with the Washington DC interns. (And when they don't fix the situation there is going to be a backlash)

We, as a nation, value integrity and honesty. I can pull up any number of YouTube videos now that actually shine the light of truth on both Democrats and Republicans and the lies they tell. That goes from President to the House of Representatives...and every lie they tell on stump speeches. Currently the leader in the lying category is Biden. Biggest pandering case there ever was . You can tell he is lying because his lips are moving. Especially ones about Strom Thurmond over the recent Voting rights. (What he says never happened).

Faucci is of course in trouble. He has lied to everyone. His is coming. And those protecting him are going to get theirs too. They have him dead to rights with his own emails and his own testimony being the exact opposite.

It's called lying to Congress. Why he has done it I don't know...it's not like everyone didn't know when he said it.

The list is long...and the American people while quarantined have enough time to figure it out....so I expect a huge shake out of DC soon...and it won't stop till it's cleared.
American public life is just as corrupt as it can be.

I'm not saying that Russia are the good guys incidentally, but I am saying that NATO is provoking Russia to war.
 

Nehemiah6

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I know British history very well ... do you? I also know American history pretty well ... do you?
As a matter of fact I am quite familiar with both histories, but that has nothing to do with the history of Russia, and its constant obsession with grabbing territories belonging to others.

And it was Churchill and Roosevelt who gave Joseph Stalin free rein to subjugate and kill multiple millions of people. So they are as much responsible for the rise of the Soviet Union as anyone. WWII was supposedly to maintain freedom worldwide, but that was a farce.

Stalin and Hitler were two sides of the same coin, and today the sacrifice of all those men who died then (and subsequently in the various wars) is down the drain. The West has become as totalitarian as Stalin's USSR. The Western media are even worse than Pravda for their lies and deception.
 
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"A higher plane," hehe
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I also do not believe that Russia is the one mentioned in Ez 38. Russia and America are headed for war some time this year IMO.
Tyrant Biden needs a distraction from the Election Steal of 2020. Nothing like another foreign war to bring the hoi polloi back in line.
 
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"A higher plane," hehe
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As a matter of fact I am quite familiar with both histories, but that has nothing to do with the history of Russia, and its constant obsession with grabbing territories belonging to others.

And it was Churchill and Roosevelt who gave Joseph Stalin free rein to subjugate and kill multiple millions of people. So they are as much responsible for the rise of the Soviet Union as anyone. WWII was supposedly to maintain freedom worldwide, but that was a farce.

Stalin and Hitler were two sides of the same coin, and today the sacrifice of all those men who died then (and subsequently in the various wars) is down the drain. The West has become as totalitarian as Stalin's USSR. The Western media are even worse than Pravda for their lies and deception.
Russian leadership has the philosophy of expand or die.
 

Dino246

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And it was Churchill and Roosevelt who gave Joseph Stalin free rein to subjugate and kill multiple millions of people. So they are as much responsible for the rise of the Soviet Union as anyone.
I suspect you knew this, but the "Soviet Union" predated WWII by 19 years, and Stalin caused the deaths of millions of people prior to WWII. Both Churchill and Roosevelt were out of office by mid-1945 (the latter had died); it was their successors who failed to deal appropriately with Stalin.
 

Nehemiah6

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...but I am saying that NATO is provoking Russia to war.
Why would toothless NATO be provoking anyone to war? As things stand they would not be able to defend a single country in Europe. Russia has been itching to grab back every one of those countries which were a part of the Soviet Union. And this obsession with aggression is Putin's way of trying to deflect attention from the way he has destroyed Russia internally.

1000.00 Russian rubles are only worth USD13.00! By now Russia should have been on a par with the USA, but the kleptocracy of the Putin regime has impoverished the people (and the country) and made Putin a multi-billionaire.
 

Evmur

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As a matter of fact I am quite familiar with both histories, but that has nothing to do with the history of Russia, and its constant obsession with grabbing territories belonging to others.

And it was Churchill and Roosevelt who gave Joseph Stalin free rein to subjugate and kill multiple millions of people. So they are as much responsible for the rise of the Soviet Union as anyone. WWII was supposedly to maintain freedom worldwide, but that was a farce.

Stalin and Hitler were two sides of the same coin, and today the sacrifice of all those men who died then (and subsequently in the various wars) is down the drain. The West has become as totalitarian as Stalin's USSR. The Western media are even worse than Pravda for their lies and deception.
I agree, they're all as bad as one another. All of them.

The EU is as busy as anybody, subjugating nations by bribery and corruption. They tried to subjugate the Ukraine and Ukraine did accept the EU bribe, then Russia came along with another bribe and they accepted that too.

That's what happened in the Ukraine.

America bribes nations. It's what they do now instead of openly invading. But it amounts to the same thing.