Bible Study

NO "the tree" is not a bible version but to know what tree to pick your fruit from is
What about wisdom She was there in the beginning. Verse 1 of the Bible In the beginning: When was the beginning? God created the heavens and the earth. Who knows how long it was between verse 1&2. Do you thank that God made the world void and without form? God does not and will not make anything void and without form.

When I learned that some of the doctrines taught by my church were man made I searched the net to find out what men created the doctrine and why they created it. As an example, I read many of the letters preserved from Constantine, and I read the reports of the Christian councils for hundreds of years. From that study, I do feel we can rethink some of the doctrines created by man.

God said He will never leave us wanting. If you really want to understand the end times you might read the parable of the wheat and the tares Matthew 13:24-30 and then the answer in 36-43 you will find out some very interesting things, like just who is the good seed and who is the bad seed, the timing of Jesus return, what the field really means and why you don't want to be the first one taken. God has foretold us all things.

Amen! And "study" them Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15), According To God's
BIBLE study Rules! Amen?
Yes, and look how the Masses are "wanting, being Totally Confused" about
salvation, water baptism, healings, signs and tongues, etc.

So you don't really believe they "will understand" end times, or do you?

GRACE And Peace...

what makes you think those things you studied outside the Bible are true though ? The internet offers a lot that is not accurate on every subject known to man

Im not sure Are you saying men wrote lies in the Bible ?

Or are you saying men misunderstand the truth that’s written in the Bible and invent doctrine by omitting and distorting what is written ?

I agree with men distorting scripture but I don’t agree that the Bible has changed in any way , God is well able to preserve and translate his word as he always has he does his work on this world through men, but if his Will is for it to be done it will be. That’s my own view on the Bible but yeah there’s a lot of false doctrines in the world I agree with that but it comes like this for one example

The letters of Paul

“And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;

as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3:15-17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

it’s when we distort what’s there like many do today using Paul’s letters to reject the gospel. Of we accept the gospel first Paul’s letters can’t lead us astray when people distort them like form letter example Joseph prince does

The net is like a hug library, except it accepts more. Deciding what we should accept as truth is done the same way we do at a library---we look to the author and the publisher. The reports on what was decided by the early church councils was from records kept by the Catholic church, so probably true.

They give a thorough report on the discussion that led to Passover being cancelled and Easter put in its place for example.

yeah but the Bible is for sure true so we don’t have to decide if it is or isn’t . We can just believe what we’re able to learn.

the internet is littered with doctrines of the world authored by men. There’s some truth on it for sure but it’s all going to be coming from scripture found in the Bible don’t you think ?

if we study the word provided by God and do it prayerfully we have the author in our heart and mind able to teach us as we’re able to hear and bear it

but it’s just my own opinion long ago I was in a hotel
Room before I Knew the Bible much . I believed by didn’t know much

I opened it and read this on the inside cover

“The Bible contains the mind of God , the state of man the way of salvation , the doom of sinners and happiness of believers.

it’s doctrines are holy , it’s precepts are binding , it’s histories are true and it’s decisions are immutable.

read it to be wise , believe it to be safe and practice it to be holy. It contains light to direct you , food to support you and comfort to cheer you.

it is the travelers map, the pilgrims staff , the pilots compass and the soldiers sword. Here paradise is restored , heaven is opened and the gates of hell disclosed.

Christ is it’s grand subject , our good it’s design and the glory of God it’s end. It should fill the memory , rule the heart, and guide the feet.

read it slowly , frequently and prayerfully . It is a mine of wealth , a paradise of glory and river of pleasure. It is given you in life , will be opened at the judgement and remembered forever.

it involves the highest responsibility , will reward the greatest labor and condemn all who trifle with its sacred contents. “

That really stuck to my heart and later in life I began to understand it’s truth and suppose that became part of my faith that still To this day helps keep me in its pages and trust what’s written inside. It’s why most of us are here to study the Bible because somewhere in us , that same faith is there we believe and know it is true and it’s of God

Gid bless sister , I understand we all
Have our ways of learning and wasn’t meaning to disparage yours just sharing mine with you. There’s a lot of good on the net I’m sure but also a lot of man made thinking about the Bible Gods thinking is within it and his spirit is in us who believe

Any supposed spiritual truth that does not originate from scripture must be judged untrustworthy and ignored. Everything that God wanted reveled He placed within it.

[2Ti 3:16-17 KJV]
16 All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

op: Bible study
Yes, I have found, after Many years, IT Is An Inexhaustible Mine Of Precious Gems,
The LORD JESUS CHRIST Being The Most Precious Of All! Praise His Holy Name!!

Of course the bible is true, and any information we are given must be checked with the bible for truth. But the organized church accepts Easter as replacing Passover, the bible does not tell us why this happened, or who changed it. We need to know, and the bible does not tell us.

You are saying that no one should study any history or learn anything about how God has worked in the nations. That can't be right.

If you don't mind my two cents, I would like to suggest that in addition to (or even before the above), we should make ourselves familiar with the techniques God employed in writing the Bible; that is, if we just read it the way we would read any other ordinary book would cause us to miss its most important spiritual messages. The Bible, being its own self-contained user manual (so to speak), documents for our edification the techniques that He utilized. God did not just include them in passing, but to be indispensable to us for the understanding of, and for the growing of faith in, God's holy scripture.
Here is a list (in no particular order) that I've compiled so far but do not believe it complete:

[2Ti 2:15 KJV]
15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

Scripture was written by God on two simultaneous levels: the temporal (earthly) and the spiritual - a verse may appear on its surface
complete in that it is for something earthly, yet its real intent may be (and probably is) for the spiritual. When we are directed to rightly divide, we are being directed to find spiritual.

[1Co 2:13 KJV]
13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

The same intent as the above

[2Pe 1:18-21 KJV]
18 And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount.
19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake [as they were] moved by the Holy Ghost.

Again, all scripture must be compared to other like scripture to arrive at a correct interpretation.

[Gal 4:23-26 KJV]
23 But he [who was] of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman [was] by promise.
24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

God used allegory as a basis of the Bible. In the above, we are informed of that by the depiction of the children as allegory: one of Hagar; one of Sarah. As the direct offspring of Abraham's, they are foundational to the entire Bible and therefore that the remainder of the Bible must, to some extent, be allegorical too - hence the dividing of the spiritual mentioned above.

[Luk 8:10 KJV] 10 And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand.

[Heb 9:9 KJV]
9 Which [was] a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience;

God used parables for the teaching of spiritual truth to some, or for denying of spiritual truth to others.

[Heb 5:12-13 KJV]
12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which [be] the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
13 For every one that useth milk [is] unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
[1Pe 2:2 KJV] 2 As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:
[2Pe 2:12 KJV] 12 But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;

God wrote using symbols.

I don't want to drone on too much longer. My point was to say that in order to understand God's writing of the Bible, we must
give due consideration to the way He told us it was written and should be read. Even doing that, we are informed that
unless led by the Holy Spirit, we will never find true spiritual wisdom, however, that would be a wholly different topic.

Actually, as for the understanding of salvation and things spiritual, yes, I think the Bible tells us that it alone will, or can, suffice or should be trusted. While it may be okay for secondary research outside of it for certain limited situations, however, any conclusions drawn must pass the scrutiny of the entire Bible to be considered trustworthy; that is, the Bible should be understood as final authority. And even at that, only the Bible alone should be considered necessary for understanding. Please notice the part "thoughly furnished" below>

Here it is again:

[2Ti 3:16-17 KJV]
16 All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

God is the ruler of the entire earth, nothing happens in our world without God. Scripture tells us about this God and about how God works for us. So scripture is the base of all knowledge. But if you refuse to know anything about the world that God rules, then there is much about God that you are refusing to accept.

I'm not sure I fully understand your point. The Bible concerns itself exclusively with Christ, salvation and things related to them past present and future. This doesn't mean we can't know anything about the world, if that's what you mean?

Yes, but in addition, the Lord is working in the world. We can watch the world for his hand in how it is.

Yes I thought that’s what you were saying and agree.

There are a lot of doctrines that became tradition in the church just like it did in the ot which led to severe consequences

“But there were false prophets also among the people, ( ot)

even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭2:1-2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

infact when one examines the early church it becomes evident just how far away we are because of false teachers and doctrines those are much more common now than hearing the truth is and when the truth is now heard it becomes what many see as fallacy because of those false ideas entered in long ago and still today new fallacies enter

What are you trying to achieve?

Precious friend, A Very Warm Welcome to Chat. I pray that while here, you will be:

Very RICHLY Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, And Edified!

GRACE And Peace...

Inthk
love this part “The Bible concerns itself exclusively with Christ, salvation and things related to them past present and future.”


and I think she’s saying the Bible concludes this of the world

“Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭2:15-17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.

And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭5:19-20‬ ‭KJV‬‬

the kingdom of God and those who belong to it are to seperate themselves from the worlds ways and concern themselves with the ways of Christ and the gospel of his kingdom

“If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭3:1-2‬ ‭

Of course we learn of the world while we’re here but we don’t want to follow the ways of the world and mix them with the ways of God this world is doomed but the things of Christ will endure forever