God's Very Simple Will, Under His Pure GRACE!

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Jackson123

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#41
Precious friend, at least you DID NOT LEAVE this part out, as MOST others do:

"Know ye not that THE UNRIGHTEOUS shall not inherit the kingdom of God?"

Thus there is NO "yo-yo" In God's Eternal/Everlasting Salvation, But
There IS however, Judgment FOR ALL The righteous In The Body Of
CHRIST, And some
Are Going TO LOSE reward, even though Saved!:

Please "study" ALL Scripture Carefully And Prayerfully!:

"Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man
shall receive his own reward according to his own labour. For we
are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are
God's building. According to The GRACE Of God which is given
unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid The Foundation,
and another buildeth Thereon.

But let every man take heed how he buildeth Thereupon. For other
foundation can no man lay than that is laid, Which Is JESUS CHRIST.
Now IF any man build upon This Foundation gold, silver, precious
stones, wood, hay, stubble; Every man's work shall be made manifest:
for The {JUDGMENT} DAY shall declare it, because it shall be revealed
by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon,
he shall receive a reward...

1Co_3 : 15:

...IF ANY {JUSTIFIED as righteous, but UNfaithful} man's work shall be burned,
he shall suffer loss:

BUT he himself SHALL BE SAVED; yet so as by fire." (1_Corinthians 3 : 8-15 KJB!)
q: God Says Exactly ↑↑ WHAT? ↑↑ Thus:

"God's THOUGHTS are NOT man's thoughts, And
God's WAYS ARE
NOT man's ways!" Correct?

And Much More For Careful/Prayerful Consideration:
God's OPERATION On All HIS New-born babes In CHRIST!
God's FREE Gift of ETERNAL Life!

Agree Totally With:
“But no matter what we don't have the authority to change ANY verse!”:

"BUT he himself SHALL BE SAVED; yet so as by fire." (1_Corinthians 3 : 15 KJB!)
Cannot be Changed to:
BUT he himself SHALL BE SAVED lost, yet so as by fire = UNbiblical/UNscriptural!

Be Blessed!
No yo yo, when God decide save we save if not is not, but inform us this

9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

So if we do that, we better repent before to late
 

GRACE_ambassador

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#46
Newest UPDATE: God's Simple Will:

"But we had the sentence of death in ourselves, that we should not trust in
ourselves, but in God Which raiseth the dead: Who delivered us from so great
a death, and doth deliver: in Whom we trust that He will yet deliver us;
(2 Corinthians 1:9-10 KJB!) = The THREE Tenses Of God's ETERNAL Salvation:

Precious friend(s), is not the Solution to Confusion recognizing
God's Differences Between "HIS Relationship With us," And
"our fellowship with HIM!"?

God's Will, Today, Under HIS PURE GRACE? Very Simply:

(1) God Establishes HIS Eternal Relationship With those who humbly:
believe, 100% trust, place Total faith, In The LORD JESUS CHRIST, HIS
Death {Precious BLOOD}, Burial, And HIS Resurrection, According To The
Scriptures! (
1 Corinthians 15:3-4; cp Ephesians 2:8-9; Romans 3-5 KJB!)

"GRACE Through faith" In The Merits Of HIS
Precious And
ALL-Sufficient BLOOD Results:

All sins Forgiven, HIS Eternal Life, And, Peace With God!
{This Is
Eternal DELIVERANCE From the PENALTY of sin!}
Justification = "God delivered
us from so great a death"
{PAST Tense}, First, And, THEN:

(2) The believer SHOULD do "good works" {Which will NEVER
EQUAL CHRIST's
TOTAL PAYMENT For the above PENALTY of sin!},
for Which we Are Created In CHRIST JESUS, to perform for HIM,
having "been Called into
fellowship With HIM!" Amen?:

We "work out OUR OWN salvation" {This SHOULD Be a
lifetime of DELIVERANCE From the POWER of sin!}
Sanctification = "God DOTH Deliver" {present tense}:

(2a) "Present your body a living sacrifice" To The LORD
(Romans 12:1-2 KJB!):

(2b) Fulfil ALL Of His Law, In "ONE Word: LOVE your neighbor
as yourself!" (
Galatians 5:14; Romans 13:8-10 KJB!)

(2c) Study HIS Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided, to show
yourself
Approved Unto God! (2 Timothy 2:15 KJB!)

Eternal Results: reward {or loss} (1 Corinthians 3 : 8-15 KJB!),
ruling and reigning With CHRIST, Which Will FINALLY Be At
The Judgment Day:


(3) CHRIST's GLORIFICATION of All "members" Of HIS Body!!
{This Is
Eternal DELIVERANCE From the PRESENCE of sin!}
"God Will Yet Deliver"
{Future Tense} - Amen?
-------------------------------------------------------
Conclusion = BIG Differences Between:
God's Relationship With us, And our fellowship with HIM!
Correct?

More here:
God's OPERATION On All HIS New-born babes In CHRIST!
God's Eternal Assurance

Please Be Richly Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, and Edified!
 

Pilgrimshope

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Sep 2, 2020
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#47
No yo yo, when God decide save we save if not is not, but inform us this

9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

So if we do that, we better repent before to late
Good stuff brother in such a great spirit

“And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves;

if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.”
‭‭2 Timothy‬ ‭2:24-26‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭24:46-47‬ ‭KJV‬‬
 

GRACE_ambassador

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#48
Latest Updated version:

Precious friend(s), is not the Solution to Confusion recognizing
God's Differences Between "HIS Relationship With us," And
"our fellowship with HIM!"?

God's Will, Today, Under HIS PURE GRACE? Very Simply showing
THREE Tenses Of HIS ETERNAL Salvation:

"...God Which raiseth the dead: Who Delivered us from so great a death, and Doth Deliver: in Whom we trust that HE Will Yet Deliver us;" (2 Corinthians 1:9c-10)

Past Tense:
(1) God Establishes HIS Eternal Relationship With those who humbly:
believe, 100% trust, place Total faith, In The LORD JESUS CHRIST, HIS
Death {Precious BLOOD}, Burial, And HIS Resurrection, According To The
Scriptures! (
1 Corinthians 15:3-4; cp Ephesians 2:8-9; Romans 3-5 KJB!)

"GRACE Through faith" In The Merits Of HIS
Precious And
ALL-Sufficient BLOOD Results:

All sins Forgiven, HIS Eternal Life, And, Peace With God!
{This Is
Eternal DELIVERANCE From the PENALTY of sin!}
Justification And Spiritual Sanctification {"Set Apart" By God!},
First, And, THEN:


Present Tense:
(2) The believer SHOULD do "good works" {Which will NEVER
EQUAL CHRIST's
TOTAL PAYMENT For the above PENALTY of sin!},
for Which we Are Created In CHRIST JESUS, to perform for HIM,
having "been Called into
fellowship With HIM!" Amen?:

We "work out OUR OWN salvation" {This SHOULD Be a
lifetime of DELIVERANCE From the POWER of sin!}
PERSONAL {set yourSELF apart} Sanctification:

(2A) "Access The GRACE, Wherein ye stand!..." (Romans 5:2)

1) Daily submission: "I beseech you therefore, brethren, By the Mercies
of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice..." (Romans 12:1-2)​
2) "Walk In The Spirit!" (Romans 8:1, 4; Galatians 5:16, 25)​
"And walk in love, as Christ Also Hath Loved us, and Hath Given HIMSELF For us
An Offering and A Sacrifice To God for a sweetsmelling savour." (Ephesians 5:2)

(2B) Fulfil, by faith, ALL Of His Law, In "ONE Word: LOVE your neighbor
as yourself!" (
Galatians 5:6; Galatians 5:14; Romans 13:8-10 KJB!)

(2C) Study HIS Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided, to show
yourself
Approved Unto God! (2 Timothy 2:15 KJB!)

Eternal Results: reward {or loss} (1 Corinthians 3 : 8-15 KJB!),
ruling and reigning With CHRIST, Which Will FINALLY Be At
The Judgment Day:


Future Tense:
(3) CHRIST's GLORIFICATION of All "members" Of HIS Body!!
{This Is
Eternal DELIVERANCE From the PRESENCE of sin!}
Amen?

----------------------------------
Conclusion:

BIG Differences Between God's Relationship And our fellowship!
Correct?

Precious friend(s):
Please Be Richly Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, and Edified!

(2 Timothy 2:15; Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:3-9; Ephesians 3:9 =
Grace/Mystery fellowship, today?)
 

GRACE_ambassador

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Feb 22, 2021
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#49
Latest Updated version:

Precious friend(s), is not the Solution to Confusion recognizing God's Differences Between "HIS Relationship With us," And "our fellowship with HIM!"?

God's Will, Today, Under HIS PURE GRACE? Very Simply showing
THREE Tenses Of HIS ETERNAL Salvation:

"...God Which raiseth the dead: Who Delivered us from so great a death, and Doth Deliver: in Whom we trust that HE Will Yet Deliver us;" (2 Corinthians 1:9c-10)

Past Tense:
(1) God Establishes HIS Eternal Relationship With those who humbly:
believe, 100% trust, place Total faith, In The LORD JESUS CHRIST, HIS
Death {Precious BLOOD}, Burial, And HIS Resurrection, According To The
Scriptures! (
1 Corinthians 15:3-4; cp Ephesians 2:8-9; Romans 3-5 KJB!)

"GRACE Through faith" In The Merits Of HIS
Precious And
ALL-Sufficient BLOOD Results:

All sins Forgiven, HIS Eternal Life, And, Peace With God!
{This Is
Eternal DELIVERANCE From the PENALTY of sin!}
Justification And Spiritual Sanctification {"Set Apart" By God!},
First, And, THEN:


Present Tense:
(2) The believer Should do "good works" {Which will Never
Equal CHRIST's
TOTAL PAYMENT For the above PENALTY of sin!},
for Which we Are Created In CHRIST JESUS, to perform for HIM,
having "been Called into
fellowship With HIM!" Amen?:

We "work out Our Own salvation" {This Should Be a
lifetime of Deliverance From the POWER of sin!}
Personal {set yourSELF apart} Sanctification:

(2A) "Access The GRACE, Wherein ye stand!..." (Romans 5:2)
1) Daily submission: "I beseech you therefore, brethren, By the Mercies
of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice..." (Romans 12:1-2)​
2) "Walk In The Spirit!" (Romans 8:1, 4; Galatians 5:16, 25)​

"And walk in love, as Christ Also Hath Loved us, and Hath Given HIMSELF For us
An Offering and A Sacrifice To God for a sweetsmelling savour." (Ephesians 5:2)

(2B) Fulfil, by faith, ALL Of His Law, In "ONE Word: LOVE your neighbor
as yourself!" (
Galatians 5:6; Galatians 5:14; Romans 13:8-10 KJB!)

(2C) Study HIS Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided, to show
yourself
Approved Unto God! (2 Timothy 2:15 KJB!)

Eternal Results: reward {or loss} (1 Corinthians 3:8-15 KJB!),
ruling and reigning With CHRIST, Which Will Finally Be At
The Judgment Day:


Future Tense:
(3) CHRIST's GLORIFICATION of All "members" Of HIS Body!!
{This Is
Eternal DELIVERANCE From the PRESENCE of sin!}
Amen? Hallelujah! Praise HIS Holy Name Forevermore!!!
----------------------------------
Conclusion:

BIG Differences Between God's Relationship And our fellowship!
Correct?

Precious friend(s):
Please Be Richly Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, and Edified!

(2 Timothy 2:15; Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:3-9; Ephesians 3:9 =
Grace/Mystery fellowship, today?)
 

Pilgrimshope

Well-known member
Sep 2, 2020
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#50
Latest Updated version:

Precious friend(s), is not the Solution to Confusion recognizing God's Differences Between "HIS Relationship With us," And "our fellowship with HIM!"?

God's Will, Today, Under HIS PURE GRACE? Very Simply showing
THREE Tenses Of HIS ETERNAL Salvation:

"...God Which raiseth the dead: Who Delivered us from so great a death, and Doth Deliver: in Whom we trust that HE Will Yet Deliver us;" (2 Corinthians 1:9c-10)

Past Tense:
(1) God Establishes HIS Eternal Relationship With those who humbly:
believe, 100% trust, place Total faith, In The LORD JESUS CHRIST, HIS
Death {Precious BLOOD}, Burial, And HIS Resurrection, According To The
Scriptures! (
1 Corinthians 15:3-4; cp Ephesians 2:8-9; Romans 3-5 KJB!)

"GRACE Through faith" In The Merits Of HIS
Precious And
ALL-Sufficient BLOOD Results:

All sins Forgiven, HIS Eternal Life, And, Peace With God!
{This Is
Eternal DELIVERANCE From the PENALTY of sin!}
Justification And Spiritual Sanctification {"Set Apart" By God!},
First, And, THEN:


Present Tense:
(2) The believer Should do "good works" {Which will Never
Equal CHRIST's
TOTAL PAYMENT For the above PENALTY of sin!},
for Which we Are Created In CHRIST JESUS, to perform for HIM,
having "been Called into
fellowship With HIM!" Amen?:

We "work out Our Own salvation" {This Should Be a
lifetime of Deliverance From the POWER of sin!}
Personal {set yourSELF apart} Sanctification:

(2A) "Access The GRACE, Wherein ye stand!..." (Romans 5:2)
1) Daily submission: "I beseech you therefore, brethren, By the Mercies
of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice..." (Romans 12:1-2)​
2) "Walk In The Spirit!" (Romans 8:1, 4; Galatians 5:16, 25)​

"And walk in love, as Christ Also Hath Loved us, and Hath Given HIMSELF For us
An Offering and A Sacrifice To God for a sweetsmelling savour." (Ephesians 5:2)

(2B) Fulfil, by faith, ALL Of His Law, In "ONE Word: LOVE your neighbor
as yourself!" (
Galatians 5:6; Galatians 5:14; Romans 13:8-10 KJB!)

(2C) Study HIS Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided, to show
yourself
Approved Unto God! (2 Timothy 2:15 KJB!)

Eternal Results: reward {or loss} (1 Corinthians 3:8-15 KJB!),
ruling and reigning With CHRIST, Which Will Finally Be At
The Judgment Day:


Future Tense:
(3) CHRIST's GLORIFICATION of All "members" Of HIS Body!!
{This Is
Eternal DELIVERANCE From the PRESENCE of sin!}
Amen? Hallelujah! Praise HIS Holy Name Forevermore!!!
----------------------------------
Conclusion:

BIG Differences Between God's Relationship And our fellowship!
Correct?

Precious friend(s):
Please Be Richly Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, and Edified!

(2 Timothy 2:15; Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:3-9; Ephesians 3:9 =
Grace/Mystery fellowship, today?)
“Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.

If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.”
‭‭John‬ ‭7:16-17‬ ‭KJV‬

Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God.

He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.

If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:”
‭‭2 John‬ ‭1:9-10‬ ‭KJV‬

“For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:22, 24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.

And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.”
‭‭John‬ ‭12:48-50‬ ‭KJV‬‬
 

GRACE_ambassador

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#52
Latest Revised version:

The THREE Tenses Of God's ETERNAL Salvation:

"But we had the sentence of death in ourselves, that we should not
trust in ourselves, but in God Which raiseth the dead: Who delivered
us from so great a death, and doth deliver: in Whom we trust that He
will yet deliver us;" (2 Corinthians 1:9-10 KJB!) =

Precious friend(s), Is not the Solution to Confusion recog-
nizing These THREE, And, Also, God's Differences Between
"HIS Relationship With us," And "our fellowship with HIM!"?

God's Will, Today, Under HIS PURE GRACE? Very Simply:

1) Past Tense = "...God delivered us from so great a death...":

God Establishes HIS Eternal Relationship With
those who humbly repent and:

believe, 100% trust, place Total faith, In The LORD JESUS CHRIST,
HIS Death (
Precious BLOOD), Burial, And HIS Resurrection,
According To The Scriptures!

(1 Corinthians 15:3-4; cp Ephesians 2:8-9; Romans 3-5 KJB!)

"GRACE Through faith" In The Merits
Of HIS
ALL-Sufficient BLOOD Results:

All sins Forgiven, His Eternal Life, And, Peace With God!
(Ephesians 1:7; Colossians 2:13; Romans 6:23; Romans 5:1)

This Is Eternal Deliverance From the Penalty of sin,
The So Great A [Second ] Death! (Revelation 21:8) =
Justification
and Spiritual Sanctification
(2 Corinthians 1:10a cp Romans 3:24)

(More Biblical Confirmation is here: God's ETERNAL Assurance!
And here:
God's OPERATION On All HIS New-born babes In CHRIST!)

God's ETERNAL Justification/Relationship Is First, And, Then:

(2) Present Tense = "...God doth deliver us...":

All believers Should do "good works" {Which will Never
Equal CHRIST's Payment For the above Penalty of sin!},
for Which we Are Created In CHRIST JESUS, to perform
for Him, having "been Called into fellowship With Him!"
(
Ephesians 2:10; 1 Corinthians 1:9) Amen?:

We "work out our own salvation" (Philippians 2:12). This
Should Be a lifetime of Daily submission, and renewing,
being "not conformed to this world" (Romans 12:1-2),
for Grace Deliverance From the Power of sin!}
(2 Corinthians 1:10b) = personal sanctification:

(2a) Christ Living In us, To Fulfil:

All Of His Law, In "One Word: Love thy neighbor​
as thyself!" (Galatians 5:14; Romans 13:8-10)
(2b) His Spirit Guiding and Teaching us, How To:

"Study to shew thyself Approved Unto God, work-​
man that needeth not to be ashamed, Rightly
Dividing The Word Of Truth!" (2 Timothy 2:15 KJB)​

Eternal Results: reward {or loss} (1 Corinthians 3:8-15),
ruling and reigning With CHRIST, Which Will Finally Be
At The Judgment Day:


(3) Future Tense = "...God Will Yet Deliver us":

CHRIST's Glorification of All "members" Of HIS Body!!
{This Is Eternal
Deliverance From the Presence of sin!}
(1 Thessalonians 4:13-18; 1 Corinthians 15:51-57;
2 Corinthians 1:10c). Hallelujah! Praise HIS Excellent Name!!
----------------------------------
Conclusion:

BIG Differences Between the THREE tenses Of God's Eternal Salvation,
And Between God's Relationship And our fellowship! Correct?

Please Be Very Richly Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, and Edified!

(2 Timothy 2:15; Romans 16:25; Ephesians 3:9 GRACE/Mystery
fellowship
{Romans – Philemon}, For AllTo See,” today?)
 

Pilgrimshope

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Sep 2, 2020
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#53
Hyper grace?

Results: all sins Forgiven, Eternal Life, And, Peace With God!

Here, lemme fix thissin' for ya:

all sins forgiven where one asks for forgiveness, Eternal Life, and , peace with God.

the precious blood of Jesus cleanses us of our sins and makes us worthy to be called the children of God and heirs to the Promise. However, one must repent and ASK for forgiveness of their sins in order for the blood to be applied.

(IMO)
I thought this doctrine had died around here but I suppose it hasn’t
 

Pilgrimshope

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#54
No one can every say that it is according to our labor that the Lord gives grace, the Lord Himself told us so. But the Lord ALSO told us that sin kills, the Lord told us so. When we sin and it is unforgiven, we die. The Lord says. And anything saying that because of "eternal grace" that is not so is contradicting that Lord. The Lord tells us we need to repent, the Lord says so. The Lord says if He forgives, then we need to also forgive. The Lord tells us so. Don't contradict the Lord.
this type doctrine doesn’t believe what Jesus taught is for the church. If God said to do anything …..it’s not for you is the claim if you have to do anything at all …..it’s not grace it’s self righteous works

it’s about the most popular doctrine there is right now it requires one to reject what the Lord himself taught and accept a couple verses from Paul not what Paul actually taught us to do , but only what sounds like mans version of grace

you already see it’s basis and flaw reject all the teachings , and for sure reject the warnings about sin and eternal jidgement none of that applies because Joseph prince wrote a book
 

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#55
Revision version 3.1 (RDF = Rightly Divided From):

The THREE Tenses Of God's ETERNAL Salvation:

"But we had the sentence of death in ourselves, that we should
not trust in ourselves, but in God Which raiseth the dead: Who
Delivered us from So Great A Death,...
(RDF)

...and Doth Deliver:...
(RDF)

...in Whom we trust that He Will Yet Deliver us;"
(2 Corinthians 1:9-10)
----------------------------
E-X-P-A-N-D-E-D version:

Precious friend(s), Is not the Solution to Confusion recog-
nizing These THREE, And, Also, God's Differences Between
"HIS Relationship With us," And (RDF) "our fellowship with HIM!"?

God's Will, Today, Under HIS PURE GRACE? Very Simply:

► faith (100% trust/belief with the heart!) ◄
1) Past Tense = "...God Delivered us from So Great A Death...":

God Establishes HIS Eternal Relationship
With
those who humbly repent and

believe, 100% trust, place Total faith, In The LORD JESUS CHRIST,
HIS Death (
Precious BLOOD) , Burial, And HIS Resurrection,
According To The Scriptures!

(1 Corinthians 15:3-4; cp Ephesians 2:8-9; Romans 3-5)

"GRACE Through faith" In The Merits
Of HIS
ALL-Sufficient BLOOD Results:

All sins Forgiven, His Eternal Life, And, Peace With God!
(Ephesians 1:7; Colossians 2:13; Romans 6:23; Romans 5:1)

This Is Eternal Deliverance From the Penalty of sin,
The So Great A [Second ] Death! (Revelation 21:8) =
Justification
and Spiritual Sanctification
(2 Corinthians 1:10a cp Romans 3:24)

(More Biblical Confirmation is here: God's ETERNAL Assurance!
And here:

God's OPERATION On All HIS New-born babes In CHRIST!)

► faith ◄
God's ETERNAL Justification/Relationship Is First, And, Then:

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ” (online)

►► love ◄◄
(2) Present Tense = "...God Doth Deliver us...":

All believers Should do "good works" {Which will Never
Equal CHRIST's Payment For the above Penalty of sin!},
for Which we Are Created In CHRIST JESUS, to perform
for Him, having "been Called into fellowship With Him!"
(
Ephesians 2:10; 1 Corinthians 1:9) Amen?:

We "work out our own salvation" (Philippians 2:12). This
Should Be a lifetime of Daily submission, and renewing,
being "not conformed to this world" (Romans 12:1-2),
for Grace Deliverance From the power of sin!}
(2 Corinthians 1:10b) = personal sanctification:

(2a) Christ Living In us, To Fulfil:

All Of His Law, In "One Word: Love thy neighbor as thyself!"
(
Galatians 5:14; Romans 13:8-10)

(2b) His Spirit Guiding and Teaching us, How To:

"Study to shew thyself Approved Unto God, a work-man​
that needeth not to be ashamed, Rightly
Dividing The Word Of Truth!" (2 Timothy 2:15)

Eternal Results: reward (GOOD works Required!) [or loss (BAD works!) *]
(1 Corinthians 3:8-15), ruling and reigning [or not *] With CHRIST, Which
Will
Finally Be At The Judgment Day!

* More study: Finishing The Race

►► love ◄◄:

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ” (online)

►►► Blessed HOPE! ◄◄◄
(3) Future Tense = "...God Will Yet Deliver us":

CHRIST's Glorification of All "members" Of HIS Body!!
{This Is Eternal
Deliverance From the Presence of sin!}
(1 Thessalonians 4:13-18; 1 Corinthians 15:51-57;
2 Corinthians 1:10c). Hallelujah! Praise HIS Excellent Name!!
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Conclusion:

BIG Differences Between the THREE tenses Of God's Eternal Salvation,
And Between God's Relationship And (RDF) our fellowship! Correct?

Please Be Very RICHLY Encouraged And Edified In
The LORD JESUS CHRIST, And His Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided
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the precious blood of Jesus cleanses us of our sins and makes us worthy to be called the children of God and heirs to the Promise. However, one must repent and ASK for forgiveness of their sins in order for the blood to be applied.

Jesus was not a failure with his accomplishments on the cross, in redeeming the sins of all of those that his Father gave to him, which was not all of mankind. (John 6:39) (John 10:26-29) (Tom 8:7-8).

The natural man will not repent of breaking one of God's spiritual laws, that he cannot discern, and thinks them to be foolishness (1 Cor 2:14).
 

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Luke 13:3 - I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

perish=death=separation. The born again child of God is the only one that will repent of breaking one of God's spiritual laws, because the natural man will not repent of breaking a spiritual law that he cannot discern, and thinks it to be foolishness (1 Cor 2:14).

When a born again child of God commits a sin, he separates himself from his fellowship with God, temporary, until he repents, because God will not fellowship sin.

Same interpretation in 2 Pet 3:9. Peter is speaking to "them that have obtained like precious faith" (2 Pet 1:1)
 

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Acts 2:38 - Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

When the natural man is quickened to the new spiritual life, God exchanges their heart of stone to a new fleshy heart, that can be "pricked" to feel guilty of breaking God's spiritual laws, which is the case of these Jews in Acts 2:37-38. Baptism "for" means "unto".

1 Pet 3:20-21 - Save ion verse 21, according to Greek translation means "deliver". Baptism, does not deliver you eternally, but it does deliver you from having a guilty conscience.
 

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Yep. If we do not repent. We will never come to true saving faith. We will never be saved. Because we are saved BY grace THROUGH faith.

To my understanding, the "through faith" is not mankind's faith, but is the faithfulness of Jesus Christ's submitting himself to the cross (Gal 2:16).