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karen0123

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Iv started reading my holy bible, and I've got the impression that Jesus is God. Is that right or wrong?

The Beginning
(Genesis 1:1–2; Hebrews 11:1–3)

1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was with God in the beginning. 3Through Him all things were made, and without Him nothing was made that has been made. 4In Him was life, and that life was the light of men. 5The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcomea it.
 

PennEd

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Iv started reading my holy bible, and I've got the impression that Jesus is God. Is that right or wrong?

The Beginning
(Genesis 1:1–2; Hebrews 11:1–3)

1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was with God in the beginning. 3Through Him all things were made, and without Him nothing was made that has been made. 4In Him was life, and that life was the light of men. 5The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcomea it.
Jesus is God in the flesh.

This is a core tenet of Christianity and Salvation.

Most heretical churches and cults go after Christ’s Deity.
 
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Iv started reading my holy bible, and I've got the impression that Jesus is God. Is that right or wrong?

The Beginning
(Genesis 1:1–2; Hebrews 11:1–3)

1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was with God in the beginning. 3Through Him all things were made, and without Him nothing was made that has been made. 4In Him was life, and that life was the light of men. 5The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created...........
John 1:1-3 ...........the Word was God..................Through Him all things were made and nothing made that has been made.

There you have it - right from the beginning................and the Word became flesh and dwelt among us.


Now this is what Yahweh says—
He who created you, O Jacob,
and He who created you, O Israel:

For I am the Yahweh your Eloheka/Divine Rulers - Plural,
the Holy One of Israel, your Savior;

Before Me no el/single god was formed,
and after Me none will come.
I, yes I, am Yahweh
and
there is no Savior but Me. - Isaiah ch43

Salvation exists in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved.” = Yeshua HaMoshiach / Jesus the Christ Acts 4:12

YES - Yahweh is Jesus who is the Savior.

How do we know? Because the Father says "that every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is LORD"(YHWH).

WHAT - You say you need more.........here is more

Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel,
And his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts:

I am the First and I am the Last;
Besides Me there is no God.
Isaiah 44:6

When I saw Him, I fell at His feet like a dead man. But He placed His right hand on me and said,
“Do not be afraid.
I am the First and the Last, the Living One. I was dead, and behold, now I am alive forever and ever!
Revelation 1:17-18

“Behold, I am coming soon, and My reward is with Me, to give to each one according to what he has done.
I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.”
Revelation 22:12-13
 

Nehemiah6

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Iv started reading my holy bible, and I've got the impression that Jesus is God. Is that right or wrong?
You are absolutely correct. "The Word was God". Jesus is also called "the Word of God" (Rev 19:13) and He is the Creator of the universe (Heb 1:10-12). "And the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us", which means that Jesus of Nazareth was "God manifest in the flesh" (1 Tim 3:16 KJV). Unless God Himself had become sinless Man, there could have been no one to offer Himself as a sacrifice for the sins of the whole world, then rise again the third day to offer eternal life to all who would believe on Him.

However, there are several religious groups who call themselves "Christians" but refuse to believe that Jesus is God. Which means they cannot be saved.
 

Gideon300

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Iv started reading my holy bible, and I've got the impression that Jesus is God. Is that right or wrong?

The Beginning
(Genesis 1:1–2; Hebrews 11:1–3)

1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was with God in the beginning. 3Through Him all things were made, and without Him nothing was made that has been made. 4In Him was life, and that life was the light of men. 5The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcomea it.
Jesus is indeed God. You have understood correctly.
 

wattie

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Jesus did not say 'I am God' but said 'I AM' ... which refers to claiming being God who spoke to Moses at the burning bush.

So this isn't someone becoming God eventually .. But always has been.
 

ewq1938

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Christ is God the Son, a divine member of the Trinity.


See my signature for evidence.
 

JaumeJ

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The evidence was given to Moses when our Maker declared He would Be What He would be.
Also from the Son when He declared God is One.
Also as is written, God is Spirit and would be worshipped in Spirit and Truth..

The list goes on, He is One, and we believe on faith alone for no mere creature is going to explain the Maker of al l that is, this mystery will be REVEALED come the Kingdom. Until then, your faith should be sufficient to believe.
 

jb

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Iv started reading my holy bible, and I've got the impression that Jesus is God. Is that right or wrong?

The Beginning
(Genesis 1:1–2; Hebrews 11:1–3)

1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was with God in the beginning. 3Through Him all things were made, and without Him nothing was made that has been made. 4In Him was life, and that life was the light of men. 5The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcomea it.
You should find This short study helpful...
 

Evmur

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Iv started reading my holy bible, and I've got the impression that Jesus is God. Is that right or wrong?

The Beginning
(Genesis 1:1–2; Hebrews 11:1–3)

1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was with God in the beginning. 3Through Him all things were made, and without Him nothing was made that has been made. 4In Him was life, and that life was the light of men. 5The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcomea it.
Hi ya, I've never seen anybody who could refute John's assertion. Looks like he has them stitched up from whatever direction they take.
 
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Iv started reading my holy bible, and I've got the impression that Jesus is God. Is that right or wrong?

The Beginning
(Genesis 1:1–2; Hebrews 11:1–3)

1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was with God in the beginning. 3Through Him all things were made, and without Him nothing was made that has been made. 4In Him was life, and that life was the light of men. 5The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcomea it.
The "Word was God" is translated by most trinitarian scholar as the "Word was Divine" because it becomes a modalism problem.
Jesus as God is the God of Jesus?
Those are just a few of the incoherence of your belief. I won't go on.

Consider the words of the apostles and evangelists.
Peter - the real Rock
1 Peter 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

James
James 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble

Andrew was a disciple of John the Baptist before becoming a follower of the Lamb.
John 1:35 Again the next day after John stood, and two of his disciples;And looking upon Jesus as he walked, he saith, Behold the Lamb of God!

Jesus as per John
John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

Philip proclaimed Jesus as the Messiah before becoming and apostle
John 1:45Philip found Nathanael and told him, “We have found the One Moses wrote about in the Law, the One the prophets foretold— Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph.”

Nathanael proclaiming Jesus as the Messiah.
John 1:49 Nathanael answered and saith unto him, Rabbi, thou art the Son of God; thou art the King of Israel.

Jesus as per Matthew
Matthew 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

Thomas asks what where why Jesus is going and how could they know.
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

James the Younger and Simon the Zeolot was part of the group which witnessed the Ascension of Christ. Question was asked when Jesus would return. He responds
Acts 1:7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.

Jude
Jude 1:1 Jude, the servant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, to them that are sanctified by God the Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ, and called: 2Mercy unto you, and peace, and love, be multiplied.

Judas Iscariot betrays Jesus with a kiss. Virtue signaling anyone? Couldn't he just obey?
Luke 22:48 But Jesus said unto him, Judas, betrayest thou the Son of man with a kiss?

Paul
Ephesians 1:17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:

Jesus as per Mark
Mark 14:36 And he said, Abba, Father, all things are possible unto thee; take away this cup from me: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt.

Jesus as per Luke
Luke 10:21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.

Believe what you will, but beware of the delusion.
 

arthurfleminger

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Iv started reading my holy bible, and I've got the impression that Jesus is God. Is that right or wrong?

The Beginning
(Genesis 1:1–2; Hebrews 11:1–3)

1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was with God in the beginning. 3Through Him all things were made, and without Him nothing was made that has been made. 4In Him was life, and that life was the light of men. 5The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcomea it.
You ask, "Is Jesus God?" What a great question!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jesus Asked, “Who Do You Say That I Am?” Let's look at the answer to that question from a 'common sense'
point of view.

Jesus asked His Disciples an important question, “Who do men say that I Am?”

So, who is Jesus? Let’s take a look at His life and begin with a plain fact. Throughout all history, it would be hard to find anyone whose life has had a greater impact on the world than Jesus’.

A famous author, an atheist named, H.G. Wells said, “I am not a believer, but as an historian, I must confess that this penniless preacher from Nazareth is easily the most dominant person in all history.”


Jesus’ impact on the world is amazing when we recall that he lived 2,000 years ago in a small town. We know almost nothing about His first 30 years on earth. He never traveled far from home as an adult, never held political office, never wrote a book, never invented something, never discovered anything, never led an army into battle, and He never amassed great wealth.

The three short years of His public ministry were spent in small villages. He avoided publicity and commanded His followers not to tell anyone of the miracles that they saw Him perform. He never did any of the things that are considered to be historic.

Indeed, He is remembered by eyewitnesses for being rejected by his own people, that He died naked, penniless, shamed, virtually alone, and in great agony. He appeared to be a spectacular failure.

So how is it then that Jesus has become the most influential person in the history of the world? Christians see Him as their Savior, other religions regard Him as a holy man. Nations, Cultures, even people of no Christian faith have been deeply influenced by Jesus and His teachings.

Albert Einstein wrote, I am a Jew, but I am enthralled by the luminous figure of the Nazarene. He added, “No one can read the Gospels without feeling the actual presence of Jesus.”

So, what sets this man apart from the billions of others who have lived upon this earth? Jesus appears to be like some other religious figures, preaching love of neighbor and urging people to turn to God. But something separates Jesus from all the others.

Other religious leaders like Moses, Buddha, Mohammed, or Confucius had a message about God or about the right way of living. But the most they had to say about themselves was that they were prophets or wise teachers.

Unlike all these other religious figures Jesus made a far more radical claim. He claimed to be a more than a messenger from God, He claimed to be the actual Message, the Very Word of God. In short, His identity is the issue.

Jesus demanded the apostles make a decision and asked them, “Who do you say that I Am?”

Actually, the possible answers to this question are surprisingly limited.

Let’s look at some of the non-believer attempts to explain Jesus.

Many non-Christians see Jesus just as being a good man, a wise man, and a great teacher.

And yet, we miss the point entirely if we treat Jesus merely as a good and wise teacher, because Jesus made far greater claims. In fact, Jesus claimed, both directly and indirectly, to be God!

When Jesus claimed to forgive sins, He was making the claim that it was He was the One who was offended by men’s sins. He was criticized for forgiving sins, because only God can forgive sins. And his critics were right, Only God can forgive sins, and Jesus never disputed that.

Jesus claimed that before Abraham was, I Am. Understand what Jesus claimed here. Jesus claimed to be, “I Am”, and I Am is the Name by which God revealed Himself to Moses. Jesus is claiming to be the same eternal God who spoke to Moses from the burning bush. The religious leaders understood perfectly what He was saying and they picked up stones and attempted to kill Him for blasphemy. (John 8:58)

Jesus guided by word and example, forgiving, loving and caring for others. But far more than showing us the way, Jesus claimed that He is the Way, and the Truth, and the Life; and that no one can come to the Father but by Me.

When Jesus appeared to the Apostle Thomas, Thomas fell to the ground and worshiped Jesus praying to Him, My Lord and my God!” Being strict Jews, Jesus and the apostles worshiped only one God, but when Thomas fell down and worshiped Jesus as God, neither Jesus nor any of the other apostles corrected him. It is clear that none of Jesus disciples thought that Jesus was only a good and wise teacher.

Instead, Jesus accepted Thomas’ worship, acknowledging that He is the one God of Israel.

If Jesus’ claims of being God weren’t true, then He could not have been a wise man, a good man, or a great teacher. Instead He would have been an egomaniac, an evil and ignorant man who didn’t teach truth. But, if Jesus’ claims are true then He is certainly much more than a good and wise teacher.


Because Jesus taught that He is God and that we are not. He emphasized that He is from above and that we are from below, that we are sinners and that He is without sin, and that God is one. Jesus had a thoroughly Jewish concept of the God of Israel; and Jesus clearly stated a number of times, “I Am!”

One atheist, who converted to Christianity, was the great protestant thinker and writer, C.S. Lewis. He wrote, “Jesus claimed to be God, so there are only two possibilities, either He is God or He is not God.” There are no other possibilities.

He added, if Jesus is not God, then we are left with two options: He either knows that He is not God and is a liar, or he is a lunatic and mistakenly thinks that He is God.

If Jesus was a liar, His lies were about the most important things imaginable. For a man to lie about such claims to His friends and followers, He would have to been deeply evil.

Liars tell lies in the pursuit of some gain. So, if Jesus was a liar, for what purpose? What does Jesus gain as a result of His lies? Earthly power? No, when men try to crown Him, He runs away. Status? No, He only wins the admiration of unimportant people; prostitutes, tax collectors, fishermen, along with the undying hatred of powerful men bent on His destruction.

When He is on trial for His life, why would He lie when asked if He is the Christ, the Son of God? He didn’t hesitate. He answered, I AM, (Mark 14:62) thereby inviting crucifixion, the most horrific death known to man. No liar, bent on earthly gain would do this.

So, if Jesus is not God and not a liar, we are left with only one other alternative; He was mistakenly insane. The trouble with this thought is that there is nothing in Scripture to indicate that Jesus was insane. Study His interactions with His enemies or His warm conversations with His friends. No one ever thought that He was a deranged man, out of His wits.

So, if Jesus wasn’t a compulsive liar or insane, it begins to look as though there is difficulty in accounting for Jesus in any other way but the way that Peter did. When Jesus asked him, “Who do you say that I AM.” Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”

And Jesus asks the same question to all people, throughout time, He asks the same question of you and me, “Who do you say that, I Am?”


ONE FINAL THOUGHT

The Apostles were the people who knew Jesus best. And they believed His claims. They believed so much that they would go out into a world filled with wolves and spread Jesus’ Gospel. Except for John, all of them willingly gave up their lives in martyrdom for their Lord and God.
 
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John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John 1:14

And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.

Hebrews 1:8
But to the Son He says: “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom.

Yes. Jesus is God :)
 
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Iv started reading my holy bible, and I've got the impression that Jesus is God. Is that right or wrong?

The Beginning
(Genesis 1:1–2; Hebrews 11:1–3)

1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was with God in the beginning. 3Through Him all things were made, and without Him nothing was made that has been made. 4In Him was life, and that life was the light of men. 5The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcomea it.
Jesus Taught to WOrship GOD, It was His first Message.
 

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