Water baptism is necessary to be in the first resurrection

What do you do with the following scripture? Throw it away?:

"There he (Paul) found some disciples and asked them, “Did you receive the Holy Spirit when[a] you believed?” (Acts 19:1-2) Why would the Apostle Paul ask this question if a person receives the Holy Spirit the moment they believe? He would not.

What about this one?:
"Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost."
Was Peter mistaken as to when a person's sins are remitted? Not possible.

Please provide a scripture that specifically states an individual's sins are forgiven the moment they believe.

Are we saved the moment we believe in the gospel of Christ?

You have different standards for different commands ?

“All our righteous acts are like filthy rags.” Isaiah 64:6

"There he (Paul) found some disciples and asked them, “Did you receive the Holy Spirit when[a] you believed?” (Acts 19:1-2) Why would the Apostle Paul ask this question if a person receives the Holy Spirit the moment they believe? He would not.

Romans 1:16

I'm surprised you cannot understand the point being made.

Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot SEE the kingdom of God.

Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot ENTER into the kingdom of God.

You stated a person receives the Holy Spirit the moment they believe. This is not true considering Paul's interaction with the Ephesus disciples. Also, in the same record we see Paul telling the group to be baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. And afterward upon the laying on of hands they received the Holy Ghost. Paul's message lines up with the initial message given on the Day of Pentecost by Peter.

"There he (Paul) found some disciples and asked them, “Did you receive the Holy Spirit when[a] you believed?” (Acts 19:1-2) Why would the Apostle Paul ask this question if a person receives the Holy Spirit the moment they believe? He would not.

And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.
4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.

5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied. Acts 19:3-6

As i am surprised you will not accept the point being made.

Acts 19.
I remember Jesus began his ministry after being baotized by John the baptizer.

Comparing Paul's observations about John's baptism, when Jesus sought out John, may make someone consider Paul's remarks in a new light. Being, if true what Paul says applies to Jesus first since he was baptized before Paul ,who stated also he did not come to baptize, made this sermon.

Jesus didn't baptize people. Yet, the thief who believed in Jesus and was on the cross beside him, was saved by Jesus when the thief confessed his faith to Jesus.
No baptism, just faith.

And if baptism were mandatory to be saved and be with God, I imagine Jesus would have not only preached that in his gospel teaching,but would have baptized people too.

Interestingly, Paul stated he did not come to baptize. If baptism is mandatory, Paul was remiss in th8nking he was spreading only half the gospel when he didn't baptize people to aecure that full part of the civenant.

And Jesus, who was the living sacrifice for the salvation of the world, dud not baptize anyone.

You're desperate to paint me as some demon-possessed heretic who isn't even a true believer in Christ. Now. to add to the list, you're calling me a liar. You're one of the worst examples of a Christian I have seen on this message board as I am sure even you would agree that people should not be following your example.

Anything else you want to say to me?

YES, that post was made last night when you had me angry at you but i deleted it.
For some reason that i cannot figure out - once you type a post you cannot undelete it even if you do not post it.
It continues to show up.

So, just ignore it, let it go and move on from it.

ALSO - i never said you were possessed.

AND - i am not upset with you - just the "must be water baptized to be resurrected" - that is upsetting to me as i have searched teh scriptures and reviewed many posts and cannot find that statement to be foundational to resurrection.

Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

The problem in Acts 19 was that the men only knew the baptism of John. They had never heard the gospel of Jesus Christ, they had never heard of the gift of the Holy Spirit.

I stated a person is saved, their sins forgiven, the moment they believe.

To assist you in correcting your confusion regarding water, as you continue to insist we are not saved until baptism, seek out the verses that tell you Jesus is the water of life, living water.

Born of the water and the spirit.

You forget we are not saved of ourselves. Insisting we must be baptized to be saved is not the gospel.

The gospel tells us, no one comes to Jesus unless God draws them. John 6.
47 Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever believes has eternal life. 48 I am the bread of life. 49 Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, and they died. 50 This is the bread that comes down from heaven, so that one may eat of it and not die. 51 I am the living bread that came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever. And the bread that I will give for the life of the world is my flesh.”

John 4:7 A woman from Samaria came to draw water. Jesus said to her, “Give me a drink.” 8 (For his disciples had gone away into the city to buy food.) 9 The Samaritan woman said to him, “How is it that you, a Jew, ask for a drink from me, a woman of Samaria?” (For Jews have no dealings with Samaritans.) 10 Jesus answered her, “If you knew the gift of God, and who it is that is saying to you, ‘Give me a drink,’ you would have asked him, and he would have given you living water.” 11 The woman said to him, “Sir, you have nothing to draw water with, and the well is deep. Where do you get that living water? 12 Are you greater than our father Jacob? He gave us the well and drank from it himself, as did his sons and his livestock.” 13 Jesus said to her, “Everyone who drinks of this water will be thirsty again, 14 but whoever drinks of the water that I will give him will never be thirsty again. The water that I will give him will become in him a spring of water welling up to eternal life.” 15 The woman said to him, “Sir, give me this water, so that I will not be thirsty or have to come here to draw water.”

Holy Spirit is not a placebo that depends on your awareness of Him to bring Him into existence. See, in Acts 19 they all were believers in Christ yet 110% void of any trace of Holy Spirit. Why is that? Well, obviously it's because of a lack of water baptism into Christ. As the gospels say and the epistles say, water baptism is a requirement. All must be baptized into Christ and yes there is a water baptism and a Spirit baptism. Both are necessary.

Those in Acts heard the Gospel and believed and were saved, blood washed Saints.
You have to back up to chapter 18 and read again.
Pray for understanding in what transpired for it continues to this day.

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Water baptism did not grant them the Holy Spirit since they were already water baptized - into John.

Then Paul water baptized them in the Name of the Lord and still No Holy Spirit baptism.

The men in Ephesus were taught by Apollos, who only knew the baptism of John (Acts 18:24-25). They had never heard of the Holy Spirit. Paul taught them that they should believe on him (Jesus) who came after John.

Your holier-than-thou condescension is quite offputting at times.

I am thankful my salvation did not/does not depend on what i have done .
Gal_6:14 But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.

Just as in the garden man wants control . Refusing to accept the sovereignty God.

There appears to be more than one seemingly committed to an effort here to try and tell Christian members we're not really Christian or saved.

It seems they misstate the bible in that effort while not really knowing it themselves. They repeat themselves. Like they're in a rut, have clipped together certain passages they intend to use to make their point.

When those excerpts don't work they repeat themselves in a different way. But they continue to refer to their same verse choices.