Research: Majority of Americans Believe Works Are the Key to Salvation

The Author of Salvation taught it in (John 14:21&24).
21 Whoever has my commands and keeps them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love them and show myself to them.” Jesus replied, “Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them. 24 Anyone who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me.

Notice the Lords says, those God the Father loves, are those who keep his commands. Does God the Father love those who don't do what Jesus says? Can we have Grace without the Love of God?
If you answered No....Grace is merited.

I like to look at what Jesus says about acts/works and what faith is really all about, "But everyone who hears these words of Mine and does not act on them is like a foolish man who built his house on sand. "Matthew 16:18

Jesus is speaking quite clear here.

Correction, "But everyone who hears these words of Mine and does not act on them is like a foolish man who built his house on sand. " reference should Matthew 7:24 and not Matthew 16:18

When one reads the New Testament and Paul's teachings on works, the reader must differentiate about which works Paul is speaking of. On one hand, Paul speaks about the 'Works of the Mosaic Law' ie circumcision and man made Jewish laws and customs of the Old Testament.

But Paul also speaks of a different kind of works in Romans 2. And Paul states that these works are important for one's salvation and that they will be judged on their works:

5By your stubbornness and impenitent heart, you are storing up wrath for yourself for the day of wrath and revelation of the just judgment of God,

6 who will repay everyone according to his works:

7eternal life to those who seek glory, honor, and immortality through perseverance in good works,

8but wrath and fury to those who selfishly disobey the truth and obey wickedness.

9Yes, affliction and distress will come upon every human being who does evil, Jew first and then Greek.

10 But there will be glory, honor, and peace for everyone who does good, Jew first and then Greek.

Yes I believe that because though we are new creations in Christ, we are still merely human beings with all our faults, defects and deficiencies. That’s the divine beauty of God’s love and grace.

Though we were enemies with God, He gave His Son to die for our sins, and now we are heirs to the Kingdom. God’s grace is not to be abused or disrespected but rather appreciated with sincere humility, thankfulness and joy, all while prayerfully striving to overcome sin throughout our lives, though that is never achieved perfectly.

Note that Paul clearly speaks about being judged on their works, God will judge and repay everyone according to their works, eternal life to those who persevere in good works.

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.”
‭‭John‬ ‭12:48-50‬ ‭KJV‬‬

I believe the gospel so I don’t fall for people explaining how grace is the great eraser of Gods word one day we have to do this even if someone deceived us

“For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad. Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭5:10-11‬ ‭KJV‬‬


I know you can read scripture like this and discard it , but that’s a huge mistake just letting you know Satan talks about grace also , the kind that rejects the truth and says grace grace

So In conclusion my salvation hangs on the truth of my savior the one lord and judge of all , not what Joseph prince wrote in a devotional lol

the reason is Jesus is the only one who can ever save my soul so I will stick to his word

amen it’s not just Paul

“Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.

For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.”
‭‭Ecclesiastes‬ ‭12:13-14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The New Testament reveals how we’re going to be judged and by whos word

“Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, and shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life;

and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:28-29‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.”
‭‭John‬ ‭12:48-50‬ ‭

“But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; Who will render to every man according to his deeds:

to them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:

but unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;

but glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: for there is no respect of persons with God.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭2:5-11‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad. Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭5:10-11‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living. But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, And every tongue shall confess to God. So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭14:9-12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭6:9-10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭5:19-21‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?”
‭‭1 Peter‬ ‭4:17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

when we receive the gospel we’re looking at our eternal Judgement given To us who accept and believe his word , now beforehand so we can repent and come to the truth and repent

but the problem is the grave lie that teaches people to reject the truth of scripture like this that’s strewn throughout every page of the Bible

this new age grace has become the devils doctrine that deceived minds and hearts and creates barriers against hearing the truth

once you are convinced “ I’m saved by grace what I do doesn’t make any difference “ you’ve been convinced of a lie once we accept the truth this happens

“in meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; and that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.”
‭‭2 Timothy‬ ‭2:25-26‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Satan loves the idea in our head that whether we do good or evil in life we think it’s irrelevant because of the word grace. Because then we’ll never repent and be set free of his slavery over mankind but this new grace doctrine is a solid brick wall in many so scripture like the above repetitive and true new and old testsment becomes irrelevant

just like in Eden “ the fruit is poison don’t eat it said God

“ no it’s not it’s good for you will
Make you wise “ said the devil

he convinced them What God said isnt actually true just like saying grace allows one to reject his word and accept the opposite “ my works don’t matter either way “ v “ we all Must appear before his jidgement throne to receive what we’ve done good or bad “

one is true and one is a lie if we believe the truth we will take repentance and obedience seriously if we believe the lie we’re going to always follow
Our own desires and will believing it’s irrelevant what we do

“it’s easy to see you’re placing your salvation within the confines of your own hands rather than in God’s.”

or maybe what the Bible says Instead of a Joseph prince devotional

Woops, you forgot many things, The Judgement of Nations, Be Doers of the Word and not just Hearers, and Only Those that do the Will of Jesus' Father in Heaven shall be saved (and I'm sure there are many more examples of the salvation aspects of good works, too many to count.) And, make no mistake good works are necessary toward salvation, Jesus and Scripture clearly tell us this. but good works without Jesus mean nothing.

Those that hear Jesus Word and don't do it are like fools who build their houses on weak and shifting sand. Gee, how much clearer could Jesus have been?

yeah but this is how we learn that brother we hear his word and learn about that like this at first we’re babes so we need milk we hear the gospel

“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭3:16‬ ‭

this is milk to begin establishing faith in him when we’re young in faith we’re like children we don’t have jobs and responsibilities yet we’re still babes so many of the scriptures in the gospel are like John 3:16

as we become established in faith this kind of word in the gospel starts to teach us about obedience to his word

“And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?

Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like: he is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock.

But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭6:46-49‬ ‭KJV‬‬

we need to follow the faith in the gospel we have to do this

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

as we grow in the gospel our capacity to hear what he’s saying grows , and we learn from him what your saying there like the wise and foolish builders the difference in hearing and rejecting or hearing and doing is something the gospel teaches us as we persevere in the faith

this allows us to not be overwhelmed as babes , but also feeds us so we grow into the maturity found there in the gospel. It’s a journey and a growth process to get from milk witch teaches us to believe fully upon Jesus name , word , blood , spirit

and then we grow into obedience from that faith as we learn the mature things that we don’t expect of babes . So if we hear his word d believe eventually we come to maturity hearing and believing things like this which is what causes us to understand what James is saying

“Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.”
‭‭John‬ ‭14:23-24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

see if we’re first established in faith and trust Jesus and his word , just hearing thkngs like that makes me grow because all My faith is well established because of all the milk in the gospel but there’s also the meat and potatoes that causes growth and obedience

as we hear the gospel the faith it creates leads us as we grow so we are never overwhelmed we always have the milk based faith but we start eating the meat with the Milk

James really is just saying what Jesus said so hearing James also is what matters do you see what I’m saying ? If we hear this

“Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls. But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.”
‭‭James‬ ‭1:21-22‬ ‭KJV‬‬

just ( hearing ) accepting that is going to change our faith. We have to hear what he said d he will teach us to come to repentance and obedience

but think back to when you first believed , you didn’t know anything g like what you know now you were a babe now your mature when you were born in Christ you were here

“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭3:16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

and you believed and rejoiced in that and then you began hearing this part

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:24‬ ‭

which compelled your growth and spurred your faith and you arrived here

“And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say? Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like: he is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock. But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭6:46-49‬ ‭

this happened because you first believed and out your trust in him and knew his word is true.

but if you look back at my other post you’ll see that I was already saying what we actually do is what we will be judged by. What I’m saying is we hear the word d he is able to do this and bring us to repentance and maturity of faith he’s able to change our Will and actions

“For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.”
‭‭Philippians‬ ‭2:13‬ ‭KJV‬‬

This comes by faith built from hearing ( accepting as truth ) his word in the gospel that will teach us what your saying there about doing hearing the gospel is where you learned that.

hearing doesn’t replace doing it teaches us and compels and leads us to doing the right things taught by the lord.

hearing is where it’s all rooted but actually hearing as if it is true and Gods word

Yes , our works will be judged , and what is useless will be burnt...
Let us be about our Father's business , and do the works that HE has ordained for us to do , and not do the works that WE think we should do...

Why are you under the assumption that I discount the Scripture you have shared?

That’s twice you’ve incorrectly suggested I discount Scripture and have mentioned someone named Joseph Prince, whoever that is, and I don’t understand why you have done so.

On the topic of good works.

If you could define what you mean by, 'good works', as simply as you can, that would be helpful.

After all, good works could include a host of activities, that may or may not be authentic good works.

I was just responding to your wierd insult or whatever it was , talking about how I’m a poor soul who is trusting in my own self for salvation

The good works of faith are taught in scripture and will be what we are judged by is why I assume you don’t agree plus reading what you wrote all the time sort of shows it

“But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; Who will render to every man according to his deeds:

to them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:

but unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;

but glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: for there is no respect of persons with God.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭2:5-11‬ ‭KJV‬‬


Our works are going to be what determines our eternal judgement every man Jew and gentile. That’s why some Christians talk about what works we do and don’t do the word grace isnt salvstion the teachings of the gospel are, and the gospel teaches us that our works are what we will be held accountable for

I’m assuming we’ll just hearing what you write that you don’t agree basically because of your response.

yeah it’s time to be a victim now right ? Joseph prince is one of the hyper grace preachers teaching us that good works aren’t a part of it

“Poor soul; your salvation hangs in the failed balance of your good works.”

that’s where we started

Which commandments?

There are a few sets of commandments listed in the scripture.

The commandment given to Abraham.

The commandments given to Noah.

The commandments given to Moses.

The commandments given through the prophets.

The extended commandments from the law that Jesus gave.

The commandments Paul gave.

The two commandments John gave.

This is not an easy question to answer.

I will try and explain 'good works' as simply as possible. Jesus commands us to love God with our whole heart and soul and our neighbor as ourselves. In order to show our love for God, we obey His commandments (Jesus asked, How can you say you love me if you don't obey my commandments.

Jesus also tells us, in the Judgement of Nations that we show our love for Jesus, who is God, through love of neighbor. And, love of neighbor needs works/acts, love of neighbor isn't just a warm fuzzy feeling.....ie, visiting the sick and the prisoners, feeding and clothing those in need. We show our love of neighbor with good works when the neighbor is in need, could be many things.....an act of compassion, helping them when in need, forgiving them the wrongs they do to us, be kind to them, pray for them.....There are so many ways you can show your love of neighbor through good works. Jesus showed us the way, he ministered to the poor, the downtrodden, and the sick. Jesus' apostles showed their love of God and neighbor by giving up all they had to spread the Gospel to their neighbors.

As we go through our own lives, we will be afforded many opportunities to help others in need. Help them with good works when you can, Jesus expects that from us and He made that clear.

And I reiterate, good works in and of themselves will not gain us salvation apart from Jesus. But Jesus is surely looking for good works from us and, in the Judgement of Nations, He tells us we will be judged as to how we showed love of God, Jesus, through love of neighbor.

My brother, I sincerely apologize. I meant my post to be directed at someone who’s constantly pushing works salvation and somehow I ended up mistakenly directing it at you. Believe me when I tell you, your faith in Christ and His saving grace is inspirational and a breath of fresh air around here. Please accept my apologies, and keep fighting the good fight.