Theology—beneficial or source of endless debating?

I'm not convinced by any writings of man. I prefer Yahweh's word over man's word. You prefer man's traditions; and the sad thing is you don't even see it.

I don't think there is a such thing as "replacement" theology.

Gods People have always been and will always be people of Faith. Not people of a certain nation.

Can't argue with that but GOD has also chosen a nation. That is Israel.

Why don't you respond to what I actually said?

I guess I'm wondering what your motive is for even being here.

What is your motive for being here, btw, Resident Alien?

Can't argue with that but GOD has also chosen a nation. That is Israel.

Magenta, you claimed Catholics believe blasphemous things, without evidence; so I mentioned the Biblical and historical evidence for the Papacy. Since you mentioned "Papal decrees", I mentioned the Lord's decree: "I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.” (Mat 16:19).

So you DON'T believe scripture.

I'm finding that people mostly have problems with certain theology because it goes against what they wish scripture said, not because it actually goes against scripture.

Believing Mary intercedes for sinners denies Scripture, which explicitly states in 1 Timothy 2:5~ For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus.

Catholics and Christians

Personally, I hate theology. To me it seems like a pointless intellectual exercise that locks people out from hearing the truth. I like understanding, but to me understanding is something different than theology and it's important to know the difference. Understanding comes from the Lord; theology, in most cases, is a human edifice written in stone. "You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me."—John 5:39

What are your thoughts?

Not by nation, but by faith.

Yeah your right i have to stop making scripture to fit me.


Deuteronomy 7:6-9 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.
The LORD did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people:

Lets start here .....what am i missing?

Hi Magenta. Well, if we're going to discuss what the Scripture says about Mary, a good place to begin is Rev 12:1.

"12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:" (Rev 12:1)

12:5 says this Woman is the Mother of Christ (the Son born to rule all nations). Who is the Mother of Christ? Plainly Mary.

Why did God give her a Crown? He gives the answer 10 chapters earlier: "be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life."

Recall that Mary stood faithfully at the foot of the Cross (Jn 19:25), when all His Apostles had fled (Mk 14:50). And yet if even they who forsook and fled were promised a reward in Heaven (Mat 19:28), how much more will Mary, who was steadfastly faithful to her divine Son, have a greater reward for her fidelity? All of the Apostles who fled sinned that day on Calvary (though John returned), but Mary did not. She remained faithful to her Son and God. That explains why the Bible says she received a crown from her Son with 12 stars in Heaven.

Regarding the other things, there's a difference Mediation and Intercession. Christ is the only Mediator, but all believers can be intercessors.

1 Tim 2:1 "I urge, then, first of all, that petitions, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for all people"

Is there a verse that says even the Saints in Heaven are intercessors who offer prayers to God for us? Yes.

Rev 5:8 "Now when He had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each having a harp, and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints."

And then the Deuterocanonical books (the 7 books removed in Protestant Bibles/retained in Catholic Bibles) provide further support.

Bar 3:4 “O Lord Almighty, thou God of Israel, hear now the prayers of the dead Israelites, and of their children" Taken from: https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Baruch-3-4/ All these are Scriptural reasons to believe those who go to Heaven pray for us.

Strictly speaking, we Pray only to God/Jesus. But we do ask others to pray for us. If you ask a Pastor to pray for you, are you praying to him? So there is a difference between praying to someone and asking that someone to pray for you. We do the latter with the Saints.



You mean, Catholics and Protestants/Catholics and Evangelicals. Catholics are Christians. If Catholics aren't Christians, then Christianity began in the 16th Century, with Martin Luther, not in the 1st Century, with Jesus Christ. Want to maintain that? I hope not.

In Christ,
Xavier.

Yeah your right i have to stop making scripture to fit me.


Deuteronomy 7:6-9 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.
The LORD did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people:

Lets start here .....what am i missing?

The New Testament context.

If you read further of what i posted you would see it covers the new testament.
Furthermore since there is no difference between greek or jew why do you ask for the new testament.?
Whats wrong with the old?

Deuteronomy 7:9-14 Know therefore that the LORD thy God, he is God, the faithful God, which keepeth covenant and mercy with them that love him and keep his commandments to a thousand generations;
And repayeth them that hate him to their face, to destroy them: he will not be slack to him that hateth him, he will repay him to his face.
Thou shalt therefore keep the commandments, and the statutes, and the judgments, which I command thee this day, to do them.
Wherefore it shall come to pass, if ye hearken to these judgments, and keep, and do them, that the LORD thy God shall keep unto thee the covenant and the mercy which he sware unto thy fathers:
And he will love thee, and bless thee, and multiply thee: he will also bless the fruit of thy womb, and the fruit of thy land, thy corn, and thy wine, and thine oil, the increase of thy kine, and the flocks of thy sheep, in the land which he sware unto thy fathers to give thee.
Thou shalt be blessed above all people: there shall not be male or female barren among you, or among your cattle.

You mean, Catholics and Protestants/Catholics and Evangelicals. Catholics are Christians.

If Catholics aren't Christians, then Christianity began in the 16th Century, with Martin Luther, not in the 1st Century, with Jesus Christ. Want to maintain that? I hope not.

You mean, Catholics and Protestants/Catholics and Evangelicals. Catholics are Christians. If Catholics aren't Christians, then Christianity began in the 16th Century, with Martin Luther, not in the 1st Century, with Jesus Christ. Want to maintain that? I hope not.