Adam and Eve first people on earth?

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2ndTimothyGroup

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According to the book of Enoch, Noah's 3 sons were black, red, and white. I expect no one to accept this as truth
Wow. I haven't been able to get to the Book of Enoch quite yet, but I believe it.
 

Dino246

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You are right that through the one man Adam sin entered the worls. Adam was the only man that He created, formed from the dust of the earth and gave the breath of life too.
Creation of Adam after day 7. The day God rested from everything He had created
God created Adam before day 7, not after. The detail of the creation of Adam is provided in chapter 2, which is after chapter 1, but there is no indication that it is a separate, subsequent event. Remember, the chapter divisions are not actually part of Scripture; they were added in about the 1400's.

Why is Eve the mother of all living? Who does God consider "The living" Those that have been born again, have receaved His Spirit the others are walking dead.
Eve is the mother (female progenitor) of all humans. It's that simple.
 
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Wow. I haven't been able to get to the Book of Enoch quite yet, but I believe it.
I just looked quickly. The book of Enoch ch. 85 begins with Enoch relating a dream he had. Read through ch. 89 and it should become clear what the dream is about. I started with the R.H. Charles translation though there may be some newer ones. An updated one using the Dead Seas Scrolls may be good. I recall a few older translations that were suspect. 1 Enoch 1:9 (RHCharles) is very close to Jude 14, 15.
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I just looked quickly. The book of Enoch ch. 85 begins with Enoch relating a dream he had. Read through ch. 89 and it should become clear what the dream is about. I started with the R.H. Charles translation though there may be some newer ones. An updated one using the Dead Seas Scrolls may be good. I recall a few older translations that were suspect. 1 Enoch 1:9 (RHCharles) is very close to Jude 14, 15.
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I looked at chapters 85 and 86 really quick . . . how are you sure that these colors are referencing the children of Noah?
 
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Read through to ch. 89.
 

2ndTimothyGroup

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Read through to ch. 89.
Thank you. I just read chapter 89 and it's pretty difficult for me to determine that these colors are referencing the children of Noah. That said, I'm not able to fully concentrate. I do love outside Biblical sources, though. I find them to be incredibly interesting.
 
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Thank you. I just read chapter 89 and it's pretty difficult for me to determine that these colors are referencing the children of Noah. That said, I'm not able to fully concentrate. I do love outside Biblical sources, though. I find them to be incredibly interesting.
I'm pretty sure it says it somewhere. I got a brain injury 22 years ago so I don't think too clearly either. I've read a few...Enoch's the only one that I was really interested in. 33 years ago I had a wild vision, perhaps out of body experience is a more accurate description, of Jude 14, 15/ 1 Enoch 1:9. Jubilees is good. There's a lot of bad stuff too. I basically stick to the bible and Enoch. But that's just me.
 

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Where Adam and Eve the first people God Created?​





The short answer is no. Before you call me crazy lets go to the bible and see what Gods word says.

Let's pick it up in the 6th day of creation.



Genesis 1.

26And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 27So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. 28And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. 29And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. 30And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so. 31And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.



Verse 26. God said “Let us make man in our image, after our image” That would in His image as well as the angles. Let them have dominion over the fish of the sea “fisherman” over the fowl of the air, cattle, ranchers, herdsman, and every creeping thing on the earth hunters

Verse 27. God created both men and woman at the same time.

Verse 28. God blessed them and said unto them “plural, more than one”

Verse 29. God sets up some people to gather fruit, seeds and herbs,

Verse 30. All the animals shell eat off the land.

Verse 31. God looked at everything that He had made and He said it was good; very good.



Genesis 2.

1Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.2And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. 3And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.



The 7th day God rested from all His work. God blessed the 7th day



4These are the generations “family history” of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, 5And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. 6But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground. 7And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.



Verse 4This is the time line for every thing that has been created up to this time.

Verse 5 Notice in this verse every plant of the field. There were no farm plants, no corn, no wheat . . . AND there was NO MAN: “ what about all the men and woman God just created on day 6 before He rested on day 7?” This is a different man to till the ground. To cultivate the ground, to farm the ground, to be the farmer. Different from the fishermen, hunters, gathers.

Verse 6. God brings a mist a dew, a watering of the ground so that everything can grow. With the mud that was created by this God does something with it and in verse 7 we will find out what that is.

Verse 7. And the LORD GOD formed man “The man Adam” The man that God would use to bring His people Israel into the world. Stop right here and go back to the end of day 6. What id God say about those men and woman “ They were good very good. God is not a raciest, God loves all His children. Remember the Song Jesus loves all the children of the world red and yellow, black and white they are precious in His sight.” The people that His son would be born into. He breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and man became a living soul. Did He give the people created on the 6th day a soul yes He did. He gave them a human soul a soul libel to die. Adam had the chance to live in the garden for ever, but different study for a different time.

I am not going to copy off the rest of chapter two we will just highlight it.

Verses 8-14 God creates the Garden of Eden for Adam.



Verses 15&16 God puts Adam into the garden to keep it. To be the gardener the farmer of the garden. God does tell Adam there is one tree the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Different time Different study is it really a tree.



Strong's Concordance

of the knowledge: Strong's Hebrew 1847: 1) knowledge 1a) knowledge, perception, skill 1b) discernment, understanding, wisdom



Verses 17-20 God brings the animals of the garden for Adam to name and see if any will make a good mate for him.



Verses 20-24. God takes a part of Adam and makes him a mate Woman Eve. How long has it been sense God created the men and women of the 6th day. Why were the women of the 6th day not brought to Adam for a wife? Just as Adam was to be the male line for His people God also knew that Eve would be the womb of his people.

Let me ask a question that I have asked before. Why did God make multiple men and women on day 6? We know where the Israelite came from Adam and Eve. That does not answer the question about all the races. This is why He created the men and women of the 6th day.

If you want to believe that all people came from Adam and Eve you have to believe in a form of evolution. There is no way that 2 people of the same race and have a baby of a third race. Just cannot happen. That is as realistic as a man being a berthing person.
Paul says in 1 Corinthians 15: 45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. 46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. 47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven. 48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.

If Adam was first, then Eve is second, according to the scriptures.
 
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If that is what you believe that is between you and God. I put out what I have been and am being tought and I beleave to be the truth. All I ask is can you prove it from the bible.
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SOS...Shades of Sudakar!
 

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Lets take a look at the word mam and Adam, from the Strong's Concordance.

Word Summary

adom: to be red

Original Word: אָדָם
Transliteration: adom
Phonetic Spelling: (aw-dam')
Part of Speech: Verb
Short Definition: to be red
Meaning: flush, turn rosy

Strong's Concordance #119

be dyed, made red ruddy

To show blood (in the face), i.e. Flush or turn rosy -- be (dyed, made) red (ruddy).

Word Summary

adam: man, mankind

Original Word: אָדָם
Transliteration: adam
Phonetic Spelling: (aw-dawm')
Part of Speech: Noun Masculine
Short Definition: man, mankind
Meaning: ruddy, a human being

Strong's Concordance #120

another, hypocrite, common sort, low, man mean, of low degree, person

From 'adam; ruddy i.e. A human being (an individual or the species, mankind, etc.) -- X another, + hypocrite, + common sort, X low, man (mean, of low degree), person.



I never expected this to turn into this big uproar; I was just trying to point out that God made Adam and Eve for a very specific purpose. They were to be the “parents” of the Jewish race. Eve was to become the mother of all living. Not all people that are alive there is a difference when we are looking at the bible. The living are those that have excepted Jesus Christ as Lord and savior. The Jewish people had one main purpose; That was to have a pure line from Eve to Noah to Abraham to David to Mary the mother of Jesus. Yes there were other reasons but this was the main reason.

Paul refers to the Kings and Queens of the Ethnos. What does that word mean:

Strong's Concordance Greek #1484

ethnos: a race, a nation, pl. the nations (as distinct from Isr.)

Original Word: ἔθνος, ους, τό
Part of Speech: Noun, Neuter
Transliteration: ethnos
Phonetic Spelling: (eth'-nos)
Definition: a race, a nation, the nations (as distinct from Israel)
Usage: a race, people, nation; the nations, heathen world, Gentiles.
 

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God created Adam before day 7, not after. The detail of the creation of Adam is provided in chapter 2, which is after chapter 1, but there is no indication that it is a separate, subsequent event. Remember, the chapter divisions are not actually part of Scripture; they were added in about the 1400's.


Eve is the mother (female progenitor) of all humans. It's that simple.
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Really!!!!!

My bible says in Genesis 2 1Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. 2And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. 3And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.4These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, 5And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. 6But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground. 7And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
 

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Let's ruffle some more feathers; even thou it is true it is not taught in most churches because it does not go along with main stream doctrine “The traditions of men that make void the word of God.”

Genesis 4:17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch. 18And unto Enoch was born Irad: and Irad begat Mehujael: and Mehujael begat Methusael: and Methusael begat Lamech. 19And Lamech took unto him two wives: the name of the one was Adah, and the name of the other Zillah. 20And Adah bare Jabal: he was the father of such as dwell in tents, and of such as have cattle. 21And his brother's name was Jubal: he was the father of all such as handle the harp and organ. 22And Zillah, she also bare Tubalcain, an instructer of every artificer in brass and iron: and the sister of Tubalcain was Naamah.

23And Lamech said unto his wives, Adah and Zillah, Hear my voice; ye wives of Lamech, hearken unto my speech: for I have slain a man to my wounding, and a young man to my hurt.

24If Cain shall be avenged sevenfold, truly Lamech seventy and sevenfold.

If there is one thing that God makes clear throughout the bible old and new testament it is the genealogy of the Jews The line of Judah from which Jesus would come.

Genesis 5.

1This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him; 2Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

3And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth: 4And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters: 5And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.

6And Seth lived an hundred and five years, and begat Enos: 7And Seth lived after he begat Enos eight hundred and seven years, and begat sons and daughters: 8And all the days of Seth were nine hundred and twelve years: and he died.

9And Enos lived ninety years, and begat Cainan: 10And Enos lived after he begat Cainan eight hundred and fifteen years, and begat sons and daughters: 11And all the days of Enos were nine hundred and five years: and he died.

12And Cainan lived seventy years, and begat Mahalaleel: 13And Cainan lived after he begat Mahalaleel eight hundred and forty years, and begat sons and daughters: 14And all the days of Cainan were nine hundred and ten years: and he died.

15And Mahalaleel lived sixty and five years, and begat Jared: 16And Mahalaleel lived after he begat Jared eight hundred and thirty years, and begat sons and daughters: 17And all the days of Mahalaleel were eight hundred ninety and five years: and he died.

God Takes Up Enoch

18And Jared lived an hundred sixty and two years, and he begat Enoch: 19And Jared lived after he begat Enoch eight hundred years, and begat sons and daughters: 20And all the days of Jared were nine hundred sixty and two years: and he died.

21And Enoch lived sixty and five years, and begat Methuselah: 22And Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah three hundred years, and begat sons and daughters: 23And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years: 24And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.

From Methuselah to Noah

25And Methuselah lived an hundred eighty and seven years, and begat Lamech: 26And Methuselah lived after he begat Lamech seven hundred eighty and two years, and begat sons and daughters: 27And all the days of Methuselah were nine hundred sixty and nine years: and he died.

28And Lamech lived an hundred eighty and two years, and begat a son: 29And he called his name Noah, saying, This same shall comfort us concerning our work and toil of our hands, because of the ground which the LORD hath cursed. 30And Lamech lived after he begat Noah five hundred ninety and five years, and begat sons and daughters: 31And all the days of Lamech were seven hundred seventy and seven years: and he died.

32And Noah was five hundred years old: and Noah begat Shem, Ham, and Japheth

We have 2 genealogies here Cains and Adams. Why does Adam not appear as the father of Cain? I know why Able is not in Adams line; he was killed before he had children.

Here is the big question could the answer be that Cain was not Adams son?

Let it fly.
 

Dino246

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Let's ruffle some more feathers; even thou it is true it is not taught in most churches
Actually, it isn't taught because it isn't biblical truth. It's a misinterpretation of Scripture.

We have 2 genealogies here Cains and Adams. Why does Adam not appear as the father of Cain? I know why Able is not in Adams line; he was killed before he had children.

Here is the big question could the answer be that Cain was not Adams son?
No; Cain is indeed Adam's son. Don't even bother with the heresy that the serpent was Cain's father. If your pastor is teaching you this c**p, you would do well to leave that church and shake the dust off on your way out.
 

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Dino246

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Then why is he not in Adams line.
John 8:34-44
This passage has nothing to do with Adam's line. I will warn you again that you are on the edge of promoting a heresy, and it will be reported to the Moderator if you continue.

You beleave your traditions of men I will beleave what I have been tought from the Word of God.
Your spelling is atrocious, and whoever is teaching you should not be teaching anyone.
 

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I think kenallen is another troll creating division, i kind of see a pattern with another one that was banned a few weeks ago...again this obsession with Adam and Eve, probably the same troll trying to corrupt scriptures and create trouble.

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Sipsey

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I think kenallen is another troll creating division, i kind of see a pattern with another one that was banned a few weeks ago...again this obsession with Adam and Eve, probably the same troll trying to corrupt scriptures and create trouble.

JF
I’ve noticed that some people seem to be focused on everything but Jesus, and it never ends well.