Research: Majority of Americans Believe Works Are the Key to Salvation

You have been seriously messed up by someone. Or maybe you just have a preconceived idea and the FACTS won't change your mind.

I'm tired of your rejection of what Jesus said in John 10:28. You have no excuse.

Friend, you keep thinking I reject the Word
We have different understanding, yes
But I am not reject the Word

To me we have to endure till the end, than our salvation lock

In revelation there is a story about wedding party between church
It not happen yet, so we are dating
When it happen?
In the end time
So we are not marry yet
After marry no devorce

Now we have a chance to deny Jesus

Where do you get the idea that you "let" Jesus in?

That's interesting

But I don't think Jesus makes any mistake in proposing to the wrong kind of woman, brother

In Hebrew custom the Father chooses the bride and being engaged is treated exactly as though married. The Son goes to prepare a place while the bride is sanctified. The Father sets the day and the hour, and the Groom comes and snatches away the bride, to begin the feast of their wedding.

Jesus picks turning water to wine as His first miracle, on purpose. The gospels are full of wedding language

Isaiah 45:22 + Revelation 3:20

To my knowledge Moses didn't have the authority to make the law, we call it the law of Moses but all are from God

The traditions of men, but they make for a very interesting study as to their origin. We are to humble ourselves before the Lord...and I don't how a three piece suit or a designer gown shows humility when greater men than they, came before God in sackcloth and ashes.


Repent....a simple word, but many do not know how it applies to salvation. Even if they did, they have been told, by those in whom they have put their trust...they were saved the moment they believed. Removing any reason for them to repent.



I had a few encounters for the twenty plus years when I really wasn't seeking God. Didn't understand why, but they were dreams about the last days...I guess??...designed to show me what would happen if I continued down the road I was on. Dreams that were so real, it took days to shake them off.
I recall my friends consoling me, not knowing why I was in this state of mind, because I didn't give them the reason, for fear they would think I was nuts.

I was living in Long Beach California... in the last one of these dreams I got out of bed at dawn...because I noticed a red reflection through the curtains, a reflection covering the wall. I got up to inspect...and looking off to the west, miles out into the ocean, and saw what looked like mushrooms, a checkerboard pattern of mushrooms!!
I ran out onto the beach to get a better view, and discovered they were not mushrooms, they were mushroom clouds. Much more to the story...but it's kinda long...but the thing is..it was as real as it could get. But still...after a few days, the fear wore off and I went back to my California bachelor life.


Interesting...I use to do a lot of writing too. Just copying down teaching as dictated by the Holy Spirit.
I would excitedly write for hours and hours, so I didn't forget anything.
Things which I later discovered were already written in the Bible, teaching that I didn't know were already written down. So I stopped writing, and after each teaching I would find the corresponding teachings in the Bible. Unfortunately I didn't expect to become a teacher or I would have written all the corresponding passages down for these teachings. But they are easy enough to find with the technology we have today, technology I didn't have at my finger tips back then.



Sounds like your inspiration may have come from a higher Authority. Thank you for sharing brother.

that could be the Noahide laws, or it could be specific commandments God gave Abraham such as 'go here' or 'go there' and circumcision.
since the Bible indisputably places the 10 commandments as part of 'the law' there is no reason to presume that Abraham was under 'the law' when scripture specifically tells us he was not. but everything Moses commanded, he wrote, 'thus saith the LORD' -- nothing in Moses' law originates with Moses. all those things are equally God's commandments.

to me i still have seen no reason to imagine that 'the law' is separated into required and unrequired parts. everything in the Bible talks about 'the law' as one whole entity. James & Christ, in two witnesses, say breaking any part of it makes a person guilty of all - even the least commandment. Paul leaves no question as to whether we are under it nor does he leave any doubt as to whether the 10 commandments are included as part of it.

am i arguing against keeping sabbath?
no.
i will judge no one for keeping it and judge no one for not keeping it.
i am confirming the commandment given to us, "let no one judge you according to a sabbath" -- and the salvation we have received, in that, having died to the law we are free to belong to a new husband: Christ. i am confirming what is written in Galatians, that having received the Spirit through faith, we are not perfected then through the flesh. if the physical ceremony of circumcision is greater than ceremonial physical sabbath observance ((per John 7:23)) and circumcision in the flesh avails nothing - and can even be heresy if we think it must be added to faith ((per Galatians)) - then we have a very clear narrative in scripture about how these things should be understood, and to me there is a very clear disconnect between "we are no longer under the law" and "we will lose our salvation if we don't keep sabbath"

Interesting commentary and testimony brother. I believe we will have many friendly discussions here. I noticed you said something aobut repentance. May I ask you to explain what repentance is exactly?

Gotta go Brother, but in short..Repentance is when you try not to sin...because you love God. It's when you not only feel Guilt when you sin, as when you repent, but you will feel sorrow over sin. Sorrow can make cry, because of your love and you don't want to let him down.

I don't think you fully understand things, friend.

1) I don't preach salvation by works, I preach good works are the EVIDENCE of having received salvation and the absence of good works are the evidence it has not yet been received.,

2) Catholicism doesn't teach salvation is limited by obedience to their version of the Ten Commandments - they teach the Father was so pleased with how obedient Jesus was that He arbitrarily decided to grant salvation to mankind ***without regard, consideration, or requirement of blood atonement whatsoever*** and set up the Catholic priesthood as the conduit through which this salvation would be disseminated.

Y'know what? "Protestants' who subscribe to Jesuit Futurism have a hard time letting that sink in, so I'm gonna repeat it: ***without regard, consideration, or requirement of blood atonement whatsoever***".

That's why Catholic priests have said and believe even well into this our 21st century that when they hear this stanza of "How Great Thou Art":

"I scarce can take it in either, for the shed blood of Jesus has nothing to do with the sinner obtaining salvation". They teach salavtion is predicated on submission to the Pope in total.


So, there's no comparison with what Protestantism and Catholicism believe

1. Invite me into your heart ( john 15)

Catholicism doesn't teach salvation is limited by obedience to their version of the Ten Commandments - they teach the Father was so pleased with how obedient Jesus was that He arbitrarily decided to grant salvation to mankind ***without regard, consideration, or requirement of blood atonement whatsoever***

What Catholics believe and what Protestants believe, is of no concern to me.

Actually, you also preach that the law must be strictly obeyed. Transgression of the law is also sin, within your interpretation.

Works are not the evidence of salvation, anyone can occupy themselves with works. There is only one sure way to know that someone is saved and loved by Jesus. If that someone expresses love towards the brethren, agape love.

1 John 3:14
We know that we have passed out of death into life, because we love the brothers and sisters. The one who does not love remains in death.

"I scarce can take it in either, for the shed blood of Jesus has nothing to do with the sinner obtaining salvation".

but 2 Samuel 13 describes Amnon's love both in verb & noun form.

1 John 3:14
We know that we have passed out of death into life, because we love the brothers and sisters. The one who does not love remains in death.

I am not agree with when your salvation lock

Base Matt 24:13 I believe we have to endure till the end

To me the end mean till I die

Example Muslim persecute me and give me choice, I may not strong enough and deny Jesus, than I lost my salvation

Friend, you keep thinking I reject the Word

We have different understanding, yes
But I am not reject the Word

To me we have to endure till the end, than our salvation lock

I agree....the Jews coined the term... Law of Moses, not me.
But I believe they did it to separate the Law of Works...from the Ten Commandments