Single Men's Take on Marriage in Our Modern World

I was talking to a christian yesterday. Every time he and I talked, something in him wanted to find a reason to attack me. He couldn't see this in himself, and he 'interpreted' a lot of what I said (ie. he put his own personal meanings to them) rather than just taking them as I said them.

You interpreted what I said. Nowhere in my OP did I even imply that all women hate men. You immediately assumed that's somehow what I meant and went on to presume I've only been around women who hate men and asked if women in my church hate men. You misinterpreted something I'd clearly said and ran on your own interpretation rather on what I said. Please learn to hear what people say and put a pause on trying to interpret or figure out what they mean.

I agree that men who are not men aid and abet women in all they do, even when what they do is wrong, dishonest, or ungodly. These men have done and are doing the human race immeasurable harm. In fact, it was this lack of masculinity that somehow 'infected' Adam in the Garden: he then let Eve lead and also aided and approved her choice. Now, look where we all are because he decided to let the woman lead and take a break from being a man.

I said 30 years ago but the numbers vary. The intention is to say that not very long ago, things were different with marriage and relationships. Statistics, for instance, show that a certain negative and noticeable trend began in relationships in the year 2010. Several people link this negative trend to the fact that Instagram launched in 2010, a fact that wasn't mentioned in the study or known by the statisticians.

I believe that's the summary of the thing. Well-spoken.

When you talk about love, don't forget wisdom. There are many men out there, christian and non-christian men, who loved their wives but whose love for their wives didn't stop their wives from being unfaithful to them. Sometime around 2001, I let someone who had no place to live stay with me. I had the love right; but I had no wisdom. This person sensed this and absconded several days later with my bike.

The Bible never issues out single character traits like it does some blessings and the gifts of the Spirit; rather, the Bible tells believers to get a plurality of godly character traits. Why? Because just one godly trait is never sufficient. "Wisdom is the principal thing, therefore, get wisdom; and in all your getting, get understanding" (Proverbs 4:7). So, men shouldn't think that God only requires them to have love for their wives; they're to have wisdom too ("the principal thing") as well as other godly traits.

As for marriage, if it was up to me, the thought of marriage would never cross my mind and would remain the fairytale story it actually is (unless God is truly involved). I have a good eye and ear for fraud and would make a wide circle around marriage and would just casually date and sleep around, and then I'd hope God would forgive me before I died. Jesus chose for His apostles some really rough-hewn men rather than nice, religious men. This is because God can trust people-- especially men-- who are 'indeed sinners' better than He can trust those who seem to be good as God has something real (ie. repentance) to work with when He deals with 'genuine sinners'.

God doesn't want nice men (neither do women) or men who are favorably biased towards women. God needs and is looking for men whose origins are lying face up in the dirt and sitting up with dirt falling off them, naked and unafraid. This is a man as God created him to be-- rough-hewn and independent-- yielding only to God's chisel on his frame and bending only to God's wishes instead of being weak or vulnerable to the opinions, emotions, and nagging of women or the arrogant, prideful, and ignorant performance of men. This is the way God designed all men and is the way all men are supposed to be until God (not women or men) puts His hand on them. Then God can have a genuine frame and mold to work with to make what He wants to make.

These days, most men aren't the original mold, and when God goes to work on them, it's much harder for Him (and for them) as a result. So, God makes men for His glory and makes women for His (and the man's) glory. This means that when a man is, as you said, 'working on himself', it is for his sake first and for God's sake. Then it's for his wife's sake (if he'll even marry), for his children's sake (if he'll have kids), for the Body of Christ, and then for everyone else's sake. Before God adds marriage to a man, the man's 'success' (ie. all the things a man needs and that make a man complete, whole, happy, fulfilled) is always firstly for the man's own sake (so he can love himself and enjoy his own company) and for God's sake (so he can love God and enjoy God's company). This combination makes a male a man from the core outward and was the foundational design from the start in the Garden of Eden. It remains the same design now.

And you need that legitimate/holy sexual outlet. I hope you have an idea of what you want as far as remarriage and what God's will is for you in it. Sorry about your wife.

Ok, my apologies. You said that with the rise of feminism and all that goes with it, men are joining movements such as MGTOW, etc. and may no longer consider marriage as an option. That men would even consider joining these extreme movements suggests that they have views such as the majority of women are anti-men, feminist, etc., and also suggests they consider searching for a non-feminist type of woman (what they might consider as Godly) as a rare pearl, an exercise not worth an attempt.

I used to be of the opinion that men who 'complained' about 'modern women' were being babies and should just kick modern women to the curb and go find women they like. Then I began to hear more and more stories in person and online. I began to feel something for men that most people-- men and women-- don't feel: compassion. I began to realize that many of the things these men were saying were not only true but should affect men negatively. Those things don't affect me so I thought they shouldn't affect other men. I was wrong.

The relationship issue is very vast. I won't try to expand on anything here but, if I remember, will start several other threads related to male-female intimate relationships.

Forgive the weak ones, they think it will get them a dream woman, but in the worst case scenario they will fall for a super ratchet one and their life will be hell all the days of their lives and they learn the Bible verses about how it is better to live with a bear than with a modern woman. This is not said as a jest or "trolling" in the Bible, you have to seriously think about this, it be easier to live with a bear.

Marriage just goes wrong sometimes even under the best of circumstances....

And whatever you do, don't forget to pick up the chicken legs...

If i want relationships/marriage i can have them because im not exactly playing with the same deck or rules as everyone else. I see how things are but all i really see is possibility and potential with covid, wars, mgtow and feminism going on. Wherever you find sides opposing against eachother there are always small neutral groups of good people isolated from all the chaos for you to be able to nitpick over.

Wow, what about the guys who didn't stand up to their responsibility of the child they also helped bring into the world? It's not easy being a single mother and raising a child on your own with no help even from the government. I am also glad God doesn't have your view toward single mothers as I was one and with God's help my daughter is a decent person.

Repent and be saved.

They're the evil simpanzee meathead footsoldiers of Satan that fell for the more wily and wicked shieldmaidens of course.

As for God's view and the Bible, oh yes, to be a single mother is certifiably evil, all the divorces and whoredoms and adulteries and even calling remarriage marriage and blaspheming God and love so proudly, God hates this all and is now to their face upending their shameful generations and smiting them like he promised.

I will never join Mystery Babylon, I'd rather die, praise Jesus.

Did you enjoy ranting like this? Is it some kind of vindictive thing? Or is it more of an obsessive compulsive disorder?

Figure out whose side you're really on Revelation 14.

I'm on the side of the God who said, "Neither do I condemn thee. Go and sin no more."

He DID say "Go and sin no more" but He also said "Neither do I condemn thee." We humans have trouble reading both parts - some of us get hung up on "Neither do I condemn thee" and claim it's alright to sin, while others get off on "go and sin no more" and start lambasting those who have sinned in the past.

I get the impression you're the lambasting sort.

What happens to Babylon's children that chose whoredom and abomination? How high do the saints of Jesus that meet the requirements in that chapter make the blood of Babylon's children flow?

Precisely.