Halloween. Is it evil? Should Christians celebrate it?

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Lynx

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After reconsidering, do you really want to defend Halloween? You don't have to answer me, but you might want to reconsider after reading the Old Testament or at least watching my video.
Ok?
Good night
Oh believe me, cinder has read it. She knows the Bible better than I do.

You... thought she had not read it?
 

HealthAndHappiness

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#22
Oh believe me, cinder has read it. She knows the Bible better than I do.

You... thought she had not read it?
I don't know Cinder.
She responded to us with a verse about judging God's servants and esteeming one day over another. That was perfect for 90% of the holiday topics. I just disagree about this application of that chosen reference. Once you get to Leviticus you see stern commands against heathen practices. That would include the Druid celebrations. After that, the OT is filled with judgements from God Himself upon His people for that. I don't want anyone here to be judged of God. It's good you all know the Bible and resort to it with me for our answers. I too need reminded at times about many topics.
 

Mii

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I don't know Cinder.
She responded to us with a verse about judging God's servants and esteeming one day over another. That was perfect for 90% of the holiday topics. I just disagree about this application of that chosen reference. Once you get to Leviticus you see stern commands against heathen practices. That would include the Druid celebrations. After that, the OT is filled with judgements from God Himself upon His people for that. I don't want anyone here to be judged of God. It's good you all know the Bible and resort to it with me for our answers. I too need reminded at times about many topics.
Very few people intentionally celebrate how they did in the OT. You don't find people consciously burning incense to pagan deities or participating in rites or anything like that. Not believers at least and even those who many think are nominal (believers) would certainly shy away and likely run full tilt from if they encountered it.

At worst harvest festivals, pumpkin carving, and dressing up slightly echo this but not much beyond that. I do NOT think that is their intention and I do think that's a personal decision.


That said I think that participating in the window dressing for the occult (ghouls, goblins, witches, etc.) doesn't "avoid the appearance of evil." So it should definitely be cause for consternation to believers that think it's harmless for your children to be cultivating a spirit of fear (Haunted houses, horror films, ghost stories, certain costumes, etc.)


The whole point when I was younger was to push the envelope and be "scary" which I can't fathom promoting as an adult.


Ephesians 5:11-12:

"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret."

So yeah, there are undertones but I don't think I should be explicit. "Mostly" it's just free candy and costumes.

The churches that respond by trunk-o-treat, festivals, dress up contests and such that keep in mind propriety and offer an alternative to the secular I don't have much of a problem with. I think boundaries should still be considered and sexualized or "scary" costumes prohibited but if someone missed the memo and their child dressed up like a ghost or something I wouldn't eject them from the event necessarily. Anything sexualized sure...that's a whole discussion in itself though.

Providing a safer environment and alternative for teens is also a great idea.



There's definitely a scary side to God which is certainly worth talking about but it doesn't fit this context at all. There are many frightening environments that are natural (think a cave full of mole crickets and house centipedes for example)... Shark cages?



Please bear in mind that some people are going to struggle with being attracted to what's beneath the window dressing of h'ween so be careful with being too cavalier.

I'm willing to talk about it privately if anyone struggles there.



Otherwise...work out your own salvation :)
 

Lynx

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But it's not a singles only subject
Yeah, well... It crops up here every year. This is "(holiday) is evil and pagan!" season. These threads sprout up all over the place.

We used to spray weed killer on them, but that got too expensive. Now we just let them grow. They always wither and die after the new year.
 

Lanolin

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am sure simple sheep has brains enough to figure out if something is evil or not.

Candy tastes nice and gives you a high...can only be good right? whats the worst that can happen?

Dressing up as a witch/demon/zombie...totally representing goodness and kindness! Cos Jesus just loved the darkness didnt he?
 

TabinRivCA

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I still live at home and my mom hates Halloween and everything that has to do with it. This is because of a church she would attend who told her Halloween is the enemy's birthday. I don't know how that's true because it's definitely not in the bible. I respect her wishes as I live in her house but...

I secretly love it! I love the colors, pumpkins, bats, skeletons, costumes and of course the candy! I'm an October baby. My birthday is two weeks before Halloween. I grew up loving October, Fall, and Halloween. I associate the month with happiness and celebration. I should note that my family makes a bigger deal about birthdays than other families do. One year I had a cake with a pumpkin and a black cat coming out of the pumpkin. It was so pretty. I guess in a way when I think of myself, I think of Halloween too. So in a way, it kinda hurts me when mom says she hates everything about Halloween now.

Needless to say, the day I can afford to move out (which at this rate might never come haha) I would want to decorate for the holiday. But I also wonder if my mom and that church do have a point. Is Halloween evil? Should we as Christians celebrate it?

I understand some things like ghosts and witches are probably not the best thing to have in your house. But would it really be sinful to decorate with some jack o lanterns and give out candy to the neighborhood kids?

My priority is obviously to please God and if this holiday offends him, I know I shouldn't celebrate it.
Our church renamed it HarvestFest like many churches have and it is a blast. We volunteers dress up and pass out candy. There are games booths and lots of food. My favorite outfit to wear is a secondhand bride's dress with veil and a bouquet. The only problem was I kinda stole the show, lol, people wanted pics with their kids and people congratulating me, so I won't be doing that this year.
If you want to hand out candy put a sign out that says Blessed HarvestFest, lol something like that.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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Check this out @SimpleSheep.
Do you know what kind of bat was in the first video I posted?
Here's some video clips from a rehabilitator.
I used to be a rehabilitator too. Just as a hobby and out of necessity because I hate to see anything suffer. I didn't rehab bats, but birds, and local wildlife.
Misunderstood creatures like bats, snakes and spiders get a bad rap for looking so unusual. I can understand how people get scared and creeped out by something. But I've found that people can overcome their fears if they want to and simply by learning about them.
This little Flying Fox is munching on watermelon, her favorite!

 
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SimpleSheep

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Thank you all for the replies! I really appreciate it. I've been busy with work lately but I am still reading through the thread. Thanks @HealthAndHappiness for the videos.

@zeroturbulence thank you for the bday wishes...it's not till October but I appreciate it! I used to be Molly and LittleMermaid. You know who I am. When I had a facebook, we were friends. I still have that fb but I'm not activated right now. Hope all is well with you!
 

tourist

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Thank you all for the replies! I really appreciate it. I've been busy with work lately but I am still reading through the thread. Thanks @HealthAndHappiness for the videos.

@zeroturbulence thank you for the bday wishes...it's not till October but I appreciate it! I used to be Molly and LittleMermaid. You know who I am. When I had a facebook, we were friends. I still have that fb but I'm not activated right now. Hope all is well with you!
Instead of 'bday wishes I first thought that you wrote 'baby' wishes. That would have been a most amusing typo. :)
 
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Thank you all for the replies! I really appreciate it. I've been busy with work lately but I am still reading through the thread. Thanks @HealthAndHappiness for the videos.

@zeroturbulence thank you for the bday wishes...it's not till October but I appreciate it! I used to be Molly and LittleMermaid. You know who I am. When I had a facebook, we were friends. I still have that fb but I'm not activated right now. Hope all is well with you!
Oh Hi Molly!! Nice to see you! I hope you are doing well. :)
 

Lanolin

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how about (in answer to question) YES and NO.

lol
 

Dirtman

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To the pure all things are pure to the corrupt nothing is pure.
 

Lanolin

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or NO and YES

after all, you can drink deadly things and not die and also pick up snakes if you truly believe. so...go for it.
also think of it as outreach, when you take your costume off and reveal that you are not a witch after all. It was a trick!
 

Lanolin

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ku klux klan had halloween costumes didnt they? They wore white pillowcases and set fire to houses, I think they believed they were saving the neighbourhood. Unfortunately they came on the wrong days and people hadnt had time to throw candy at them to make them go away.