Does the Bible allow for the existence of a doggie heaven?

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Does the Bible allow for the existence of a doggie heaven?

  • yes

    Votes: 6 46.2%
  • the Bible seems gray on the subject

    Votes: 2 15.4%
  • no

    Votes: 5 38.5%

  • Total voters
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CS1

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Does the Bible allow for the existence of a doggie heaven?
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I was asked this by my Daughter when we buried our dog. I was going to answer very quickly, but I prayed as the Lord. Here is what I told her.

We do not know all that God and the Lord Jesus have prepared for us. When we get to Heaven, it will be greater than humanly possible to understand. We know God created this animal for us to enjoy on earth. Our dog has served its purpose. We must leave the rest up to God.
 

JohnRH

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I was asked this by my Daughter when we buried our dog. I was going to answer very quickly, but I prayed as the Lord. Here is what I told her.

We do not know all that God and the Lord Jesus have prepared for us. When we get to Heaven, it will be greater than humanly possible to understand. We know God created this animal for us to enjoy on earth. Our dog has served its purpose. We must leave the rest up to God.
Amen!
 

TabinRivCA

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Webers.Home

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#25
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In the beginning, Man and beast lived together in peace as monarch and
subjects.

Gen 1:26b . . Let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the
air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that
move along the ground.

Man's arrangement with the animal kingdom ended when Noah came off the Ark.

Gen 9:2 . .The fear and the dread of you shall be upon all the beasts of the
earth and upon all the birds of the sky-- everything with which the earth is
astir --and upon all the fish of the sea;

While Noah was preparing for launch day, creatures came to him without his
having to go on a global safari and round them up.

Gen 6:20 . . From birds of every kind, cattle of every kind, every kind of
creeping thing on earth, two of each shall come to you to stay alive.

Gen 7:7-9 . . Of the clean animals, of the animals that are not clean, of
the birds, and of everything that creeps on the ground, two of each, male
and female, came to Noah into the Ark.

But you can just bet your lottery winnings that as soon as the gangway was
let down, those same critters took off out of there to the four winds like
bottle rockets to get away from Noah because though they trusted him
aboard the Ark, they no longer trusted him ashore. The rebellion was on!
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oyster67

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God saw fit to create animals in the beginning and said they were good. I see no reason why that pattern would not continue on into the Millennium and Final State.

Isaiah 11
5And righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins, and faithfulness the girdle of his reins. 6The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them. 7And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox. 8And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den. 9They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.
 

tourist

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God saw fit to create animals in the beginning and said they were good. I see no reason why that pattern would not continue on into the Millennium and Final State.

Isaiah 11
5And righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins, and faithfulness the girdle of his reins. 6The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them. 7And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox. 8And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den. 9They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.
I know that I am going to see my little dod again. When he sees his daddy his little tail will be wagging. We'll have a good time then.
 

tourist

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How about trees/plants/alligators/rhinos/snails/germs? The bible says nothing about your pets having souls and being destined for heaven.

Jesus didn't offer his eternal sacrifice for your dog or any other pet.

One sad thing is that many people love their pets, dogs/cats, more than they do their own families, wives/husbands/children. I know this for a fact as I've been told so by pet owners. I love my dog more than my family. How sad is that?
As animals are without sin, there is no need of the sacrifice of Jesus. That sacrifice was for us sinners, not our pets. Plants don't have souls yet there will be plenty of foliage in heaven. Animals too, especially beloved pets.
 

Webers.Home

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As animals are without sin, there is no need of the sacrifice of Jesus. That
sacrifice was for us sinners, not our pets. Plants don't have souls yet there
will be plenty of foliage in heaven. Animals too, especially beloved pets.

Gen 3:17-18 . .Cursed be the ground because of you

Not only would Man himself be effected by a curse upon the ground, but
every living thing depending upon the ground for its survival would be
effected too; from lowly nematodes and earthworms right on up to the top
of the food chain. The whole animal world, and all the seed-bearing plant life
too, would suffer collateral damages for Adam's mistake.

Unfortunately the abundant swarms of life that God created in the beginning
would, at that point, begin to thin out as the competition for available
natural food stuffs would begin to intensify

Romans 8:19-22 strongly suggests that were it not for Christ's crucifixion,
the entire cosmos-- its forms of life, matter, and energy --would be
permanently stuck in a perpetual state of never-ending entropy till it
reached the point where neither anyone nor anything, could live here.

For example: the Sahara desert was once a pluvial region with lakes. When
geological forces caused the loss of rainfall and surface water, the Sahara
became the arid waste it's famed for today and consequently its inhabitants
had to relocate. The same thing happened in Nevada. The site chosen for
Burning Man was once a very large lake but today is merely an extensive
valley of powdery silt.

Where's the aquatic life that once lived in that lake? Gone. Where's the
waterfowl that once made that lake their home? Gone. Where's the wildlife
that once depended on that lake for their drinking water? Gone. Where's the
source that kept that lake filled and the surrounding land irrigated? It's gone
too.
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Dirtman

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Genesis 9:5 ESV And for your lifeblood I will require a reckoning: from every beast I will require it and from man. From his fellow man I will require a reckoning for the life of man.

My thinking is how can God require a reckoning from every beast that kills a man, unless there is some sort of judgement for animals? And if there is a judgement for some animals, surely there is a judgement for all? This is not enough to base a doctrine on, but it seems enough to me (with the other arguments posted by Runningman, such as the fact that animals do not require a saviour), that there may be an afterlife for animals.
I think this is a directive that follows the rest of the passage, where God said that if a man spills a mans blood he is to be killed by man. Humans to exact the wrath of God.
 

Moses_Young

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I think this is a directive that follows the rest of the passage, where God say that if a man spills a mans blood he is to be killed by man. Humans to exact the wrath of God.
But what about guilty men not punished by man? And therefore guilty beasts not punished by man? If guilty men cannot escape God's justice, I doubt guilty beasts can.
 

Dirtman

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But what about guilty men not punished by man? And therefore guilty beasts not punished by man? If guilty men cannot escape God's justice, I doubt guilty beasts can.
Our failings do not reflect on God. If ya read leviticus and Deuteronomy there are laws about killing animals that do harm to humans failure to keep those laws falls on the human owner of the destructive and murderous animal.
 

Moses_Young

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Our failings do not reflect on God. If ya read leviticus and Deuteronomy there are laws about killing animals that do harm to humans failure to keep those laws falls on the human owner of the destructive and murderous animal.
Not all animals are owned by man. Tigers, lions, sharks etc. I doubt the guilty (and unpunished) of these get off Scot-free. But its a non-important issue. :)
 

Webers.Home

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If guilty men cannot escape God's justice, I doubt guilty beasts can.

To my knowledge: God judges in accord with the information one has at
hand. (Luke 12:47-48). In other words: sins of ignorance are quite a bit less
serious than sins committed by folks who know what they're doing.

Now; the animal kingdom not only doesn't know what it's doing when it
attacks people, but it doesn't even have a conscience about it because only
Man was created in the image of God whereas the animal kingdom wasn't.

Something else. The great white throne event depicted at Rev 20:11-15
makes no mention of a resurrection of deceased creatures from the animal
kingdom for judgment: only people.
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Dirtman

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I think we feel pain and grief at the death of our pets is because the gravity of death is a reality
Sorrow at death is part of the punishment for sin.