The Mark of the Beast

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Randy4u2c

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What is the mark of the beast? In Rev 12:7-9, we are told that Satan will be cast out of heaven to earth. This hasn't happened yet. In II Thess 2:1-4, we are warned that the son of perdition, Satan, when he is cast out, will sit in the temple of God, which is in Jerusalem, claiming to be God. Many are not taught that Satan will come first, before Jesus, claiming to be God. They are taught that they won't be here when he appears. Satan will deceive many into worshipping him as God by preforming great signs and wonders in their sight. This will cause many to fall away to him and receive his mark of deception, Rev 13:11-17. The true mark of the beast isn't a tattoo or microchip, it is being deceived in your mind, which is in your forehead, that Satan is God and therefore you worship him. Because you are deceived into thinking he is God, you therefore work for his fake ministry to bring in new converts. You therefore receive the mark in your hand, which is symbolic of doing work for his ministry. We are nearing the time when Satan will be cast out of heaven. He will come transfigured (disguised), as an angel of light, II Cor 11:13-15, coming to save the people, not as a warlord or devil with a pitchfork. Don't allow yourself to be deceived by him or false teachers. Study to show yourself approved. Keep in mind that God has a remnant that know Satan is a fake and that he comes first. They will stand against him to expose his lies with the Holy Spirit speaking through them when they are delivered up, Mark 13:11.
 

Seeker47

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#2
Would it not be great if satan would just come in his own name and announce that everyone had to receive a 666 tattoo?
 

Magenta

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In Rev 12:7-9, we are told that Satan will be cast out of heaven to earth. This hasn't happened yet.
He (Jesus) replied, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven."
 

JaumeJ

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Satan has been with mankind since the Garden. He is given power to the third heaven, but he does not nor ever will be the ultimate ruler except for those who chose evil.
 

Randy4u2c

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He (Jesus) replied, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven."
Yes, Jesus beheld Lucifer's (Satan) first fall in ISA 14:12-16 and will again witness it when Rev 12:7-9 comes to pass.
 

Pilgrimshope

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He (Jesus) replied, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven."
yes we’re also told where he’s at making war and with whom in the New Testament

“And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12:17‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.”
‭‭1 Peter‬ ‭5:8-9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

He is in this world and is not in the lords kingdom. He was ejected when Christ was seated
 

Magenta

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yes we’re also told where he’s at making war and with whom in the New Testament

“And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12:17‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.”
‭‭1 Peter‬ ‭5:8-9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

He is in this world and is not in the lords kingdom. He was ejected when Christ was seated
"Simon, Simon, Satan has asked to sift each of you like wheat. But I have prayed for you, Simon, that
your faith will not fail. And when you have turned back, strengthen your brothers.” Luke 22:31-32
 

Pilgrimshope

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"Simon, Simon, Satan has asked to sift each of you like wheat. But I have prayed for you, Simon, that
your faith will not fail. And when you have turned back, strengthen your brothers.” Luke 22:31-32
Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out. And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.”
‭‭John‬ ‭12:31-32‬ ‭

“Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.”
‭‭John‬ ‭14:30‬ ‭KJV‬‬

one prince was rejected and left the world and on other who had no part with Christ was coming into the world

“And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12:5‬ ‭KJV‬‬

One prince left the world

“So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:19‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Another was cast out of heaven into the earth and given dominion for a time

“And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. ( they had died in earth and were now in heaven )

Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. ( while heaven celebrates the victory and kingdom )



Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time. And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.

…And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12:10-13, 17‬ ‭

so you have two princes one is seated on the throne in heaven ruling his kingdom and the other was cast out of heaven for ever into the earth to war against the people of God until Christ returns with the restoration

in this world we have an enemy

“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭6:12-13‬ ‭KJV‬‬

those spiritual powers are Satan and his fallen angels spirits in the earth working to destroy man’s faith

“in whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭4:4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

we’re blessed because of the holy spirit

“Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness. And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭5:19-20‬ ‭KJV‬‬
 
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#10
What is the mark of the beast? In Rev 12:7-9, we are told that Satan will be cast out of heaven to earth. This hasn't happened yet. In II Thess 2:1-4, we are warned that the son of perdition, Satan, when he is cast out, will sit in the temple of God, which is in Jerusalem, claiming to be God. Many are not taught that Satan will come first, before Jesus, claiming to be God. They are taught that they won't be here when he appears. Satan will deceive many into worshipping him as God by preforming great signs and wonders in their sight. This will cause many to fall away to him and receive his mark of deception, Rev 13:11-17. The true mark of the beast isn't a tattoo or microchip, it is being deceived in your mind, which is in your forehead, that Satan is God and therefore you worship him. Because you are deceived into thinking he is God, you therefore work for his fake ministry to bring in new converts. You therefore receive the mark in your hand, which is symbolic of doing work for his ministry. We are nearing the time when Satan will be cast out of heaven. He will come transfigured (disguised), as an angel of light, II Cor 11:13-15, coming to save the people, not as a warlord or devil with a pitchfork. Don't allow yourself to be deceived by him or false teachers. Study to show yourself approved. Keep in mind that God has a remnant that know Satan is a fake and that he comes first. They will stand against him to expose his lies with the Holy Spirit speaking through them when they are delivered up, Mark 13:11.
There's more than a mark. There's a name, a number, a mark, and an image. It's all in Revelation.
 

Magenta

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#11
Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out. And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.”
‭‭John‬ ‭12:31-32‬ ‭

“Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.”
‭‭John‬ ‭14:30‬ ‭KJV‬‬

one prince was rejected and left the world and on other who had no part with Christ was coming into the world

“And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12:5‬ ‭KJV‬‬

One prince left the world

“So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:19‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Another was cast out of heaven into the earth and given dominion for a time

“And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. ( they had died in earth and were now in heaven )

Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. ( while heaven celebrates the victory and kingdom )



Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time. And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.

…And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12:10-13, 17‬ ‭

so you have two princes one is seated on the throne in heaven ruling his kingdom and the other was cast out of heaven for ever into the earth to war against the people of God until Christ returns with the restoration

in this world we have an enemy

“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭6:12-13‬ ‭KJV‬‬

those spiritual powers are Satan and his fallen angels spirits in the earth working to destroy man’s faith

“in whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭4:4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

we’re blessed because of the holy spirit

“Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness. And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭5:19-20‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Luke22-31-32
Thank you for the inspiration :)
 
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The mark starts like it did in Genesis with the taking away of the blood(Eve deceived)Followed by the water(Adam) and then the spirit(being kicked out of the garden and presence of the spirit of the Lord.)

It happens three times in the Bible.The second is now.The third happens when satan is released one final time in Revelation for a short time.

Those who corrupted the blood are offering an abomination unto the Lord and will lose the water and his spirit.Keep your blood as a holy sacrifice and don't be deceived by the serpent.

The mark that God places on the 144,000 is the Holy Spirit.I've shown hand signs on here before and you can do signs that reveal what the mark is, and his name that only he knows.

The mark of the beast hand sign would be the broken peace hand sign.You do that by placing your right hand,open palm, over your forehead with your thumb up.
 

Randy4u2c

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yes we’re also told where he’s at making war and with whom in the New Testament

“And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12:17‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.”
‭‭1 Peter‬ ‭5:8-9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

He is in this world and is not in the lords kingdom. He was ejected when Christ was seated
If he is in the world, why isn't he standing in the temple of God, in Jerusalem, claiming to be God as stated in II Thess 2:1-4? Could it be because he isn't here yet?
 

Pilgrimshope

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If he is in the world, why isn't he standing in the temple of God, in Jerusalem, claiming to be God as stated in II Thess 2:1-4? Could it be because he isn't here yet?
“Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.”
‭‭1 Peter‬ ‭5:8-9‬ ‭

I’d say he’s probably here

“Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭6:11-13‬ ‭KJV‬‬

if Peter and Paul are correct then it makes perfect sense

“And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12:17‬ ‭

the gospel is the testimony of Christ, in other words the devil is in the earth warring against the church but he’s an evil spirit so to actually do anything to the people he needs wicked men , to fill thier with his intent hearts like

“And supper being ended, the devil having now put into the heart of Judas Iscariot, Simon's son, to betray him;”
‭‭John‬ ‭13:2‬ ‭

“Then entered Satan into Judas surnamed Iscariot, being of the number of the twelve.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭22:3‬ ‭KJV‬‬

That’s why the beast rises in the image of the dragon and ears against the church because Satan turned his wrath on them having lost the war on heaven when Christ was seated in victory now he’s after the. Church who can be saved into the kingdom he no longer has any part in

heaven and earth

“And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

…..And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them.

Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time. And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12:3, 5, 7, 9-10, 12, 17‬ ‭KJV‬‬


If you look then the beast rises looking like the dragon and starts destroying the saints for an appointed time in chapter 13-14 he’s a bunch of chosen powerful men doing satans Will on earth warring against the church

“And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭13:
 

HealthAndHappiness

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#16
Some here might not have seen the direct link that I posted once in another thread on the subject. It was to a World Patent by Bill Gates company when he sold Microsoft.
He chose a custom patent number for his special injectable tattoo that could be seen in a special light.

This is another version that billionaire Jeff Beelzebub is marketing in his retail stores in California.
(Skip the first minute past the introduction)

 

Blade

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I always wonder since every number means something is it really 666 as we read it or 600,60,6. I always wonder about lol something else and that is why do we jump over "must worship the beast" and right to the mark? Well everyone is told to worship the beast or you die. So taking the mark or not your lost anyway. Since we jumped forward lets jump backwards? Is it not written
"And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. "

"All the inhabitants of the earth will fall down and worship him, everyone whose name has not been written since the foundation of the world in the Book of Life of the Lamb who has been slain [as a willing sacrifice].

So even though I believe hope I won't be there I have no fear what so ever. I know from Him saying "you are the branches I am the vine". He knows me sees me and I am a branch written in the Lambs book of which no one has ever been blotted out from.
 

TMS

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#18
If he is in the world, why isn't he standing in the temple of God, in Jerusalem, claiming to be God as stated in II Thess 2:1-4? Could it be because he isn't here yet?
The Bible has all the answers.
Understanding Daniel helps to identify the beast of Rev 12.
Before you can know the mark of the beast you need to identify the beast.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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#19
I always wonder since every number means something is it really 666 as we read it or 600,60,6. I always wonder about lol something else and that is why do we jump over "must worship the beast" and right to the mark? Well everyone is told to worship the beast or you die. So taking the mark or not your lost anyway. Since we jumped forward lets jump backwards? Is it not written
"And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. "

"All the inhabitants of the earth will fall down and worship him, everyone whose name has not been written since the foundation of the world in the Book of Life of the Lamb who has been slain [as a willing sacrifice].

So even though I believe hope I won't be there I have no fear what so ever. I know from Him saying "you are the branches I am the vine". He knows me sees me and I am a branch written in the Lambs book of which no one has ever been blotted out from.
The worship of the Antichrist is just as much an identifying characteristic. I agree. It's crazy how so many things are assumed to be without the worship. That said, I think there's potentially/ possibility there's going to be worship of the AC if a Bill Gates patent 060606 "mark " is eventually imposed. Perhaps the Elon brain wire interface or Jeff Beezos' version with the right hand scan. All speculation right now, but the tech is in place.

What do you believe a person must do to be written in the Lambs Book of Life?
 

TMS

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#20
What do you believe a person must do to be written in the Lambs Book of Life?
It's a spiritual war.
To be in the book of life means we are covered by Christs righteousness. The blood of the lamb, is able to justify us and clean us of all sin.
By faith in Jesus we are saved.
The mark isn't physical it is about allegiance to God or man (this world).