The Rapture Doctrine.....Truth or Fiction?

My first concern on the subject is that the word "rapture" isn't found anywhere in the new testament. It is a man made doctrine based on the mistranslation of I Thess 4:13-18. The subject is in verses 13-14. You are not to be ignorant concerning those that fell asleep (died) believing in Christ. If you believe Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. Those that died in Jesus were raised with him and are now in heaven with God. He is not the God of the dead, but the living. 15- We which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. Why? Because they have already risen. 16- For the Lord shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trump of God; and the dead in Christ shall rise first. Why? Because they are already there. 17- Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air, and so shall we ever be with the Lord. We which remain until the Lord's coming, at the last or 7th trump, will be gathered in the cloud of angels which will return with him. It doesn't mean a cloud in the sky, but a cloud of witnesses. We will meet him in the air, which is to say a spiritual body that we are all changed into at his coming. Air doesn't mean atmosphere, but the breath of life body that God breathed into Adam. I Cor 15:35-54 explains that we have two bodies, the flesh natural body and the spiritual body that we are changed into at the last Trump. 51,52-
I shew you a mystery, we shall not all sleep (die), but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of the eye, at the LAST TRUMP, for the trump shall sound and the dead will be raised incorruptible (because they are already there), and we (that remain) shall be changed (into that spiritual body). No one is going to fly away to escape the tribulation of Satan (son of perdition/antichrist), when he comes claiming to be God, II Thess 2:1-4. It is our job to stand against him and expose his lies, Mark 13:9-11. Don't be deceived by false doctrines. Study to show yourself approved and make the stand against the devil, Eph 6:11-17. May God give you eyes to see and understand.

My first concern on the subject is that the word "rapture" isn't found anywhere in the new testament. It is a man made doctrine based on the mistranslation of I Thess 4:13-18. The subject is in verses 13-14. You are not to be ignorant concerning those that fell asleep (died) believing in Christ. If you believe Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. Those that died in Jesus were raised with him and are now in heaven with God. He is not the God of the dead, but the living. 15- We which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. Why? Because they have already risen. 16- For the Lord shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trump of God; and the dead in Christ shall rise first. Why? Because they are already there. 17- Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air, and so shall we ever be with the Lord. We which remain until the Lord's coming, at the last or 7th trump, will be gathered in the cloud of angels which will return with him. It doesn't mean a cloud in the sky, but a cloud of witnesses. We will meet him in the air, which is to say a spiritual body that we are all changed into at his coming. Air doesn't mean atmosphere, but the breath of life body that God breathed into Adam. I Cor 15:35-54 explains that we have two bodies, the flesh natural body and the spiritual body that we are changed into at the last Trump. 51,52-
I shew you a mystery, we shall not all sleep (die), but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of the eye, at the LAST TRUMP, for the trump shall sound and the dead will be raised incorruptible (because they are already there), and we (that remain) shall be changed (into that spiritual body). No one is going to fly away to escape the tribulation of Satan (son of perdition/antichrist), when he comes claiming to be God, II Thess 2:1-4. It is our job to stand against him and expose his lies, Mark 13:9-11. Don't be deceived by false doctrines. Study to show yourself approved and make the stand against the devil, Eph 6:11-17. May God give you eyes to see and understand.

Don't be deceived by false doctrines. Study to show yourself approved and make the stand against the devil, Eph 6:11-17. May God give you eyes to see and understand.

My first concern on the subject is that the word "rapture" isn't found anywhere in the new testament. It is a man made doctrine based on the mistranslation of I Thess 4:13-18. The subject is in verses 13-14. You are not to be ignorant concerning those that fell asleep (died) believing in Christ. If you believe Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. Those that died in Jesus were raised with him and are now in heaven with God. He is not the God of the dead, but the living. 15- We which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. Why? Because they have already risen. 16- For the Lord shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trump of God; and the dead in Christ shall rise first. Why? Because they are already there. 17- Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air, and so shall we ever be with the Lord. We which remain until the Lord's coming, at the last or 7th trump, will be gathered in the cloud of angels which will return with him. It doesn't mean a cloud in the sky, but a cloud of witnesses. We will meet him in the air, which is to say a spiritual body that we are all changed into at his coming. Air doesn't mean atmosphere, but the breath of life body that God breathed into Adam. I Cor 15:35-54 explains that we have two bodies, the flesh natural body and the spiritual body that we are changed into at the last Trump. 51,52-
I shew you a mystery, we shall not all sleep (die), but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of the eye, at the LAST TRUMP, for the trump shall sound and the dead will be raised incorruptible (because they are already there), and we (that remain) shall be changed (into that spiritual body). No one is going to fly away to escape the tribulation of Satan (son of perdition/antichrist), when he comes claiming to be God, II Thess 2:1-4. It is our job to stand against him and expose his lies, Mark 13:9-11. Don't be deceived by false doctrines. Study to show yourself approved and make the stand against the devil, Eph 6:11-17. May God give you eyes to see and understand.

My first concern on the subject is that the word "rapture" isn't found anywhere in the new testament. It is a man made doctrine based on the mistranslation of I Thess 4:13-18. .

Some people believe in Pre rapture some the Post rapture. I believe in the Pan rapture. It will pan out the way GOD wants to.

My first concern on the subject is that the word "rapture" isn't found anywhere in the new testament.

It seems all who use that term are confusing it with the resurrection which is coming for us all, those who sleep first then we who ae alive yet dead in Yeshua.

The word "Bible" is not found in the New Testament either. Does that mean the Bible does not exist?

Some people believe in Pre rapture some the Post rapture. I believe in the Pan rapture. It will pan out the way GOD wants to.

You won't find "missionary" in the Bible either. That word comes from the Latin translation and it really means apostle. "Rapture" is of a similar origin.

I beg to differ with your interpretation. No one will be resisting the antichrist. Either they will submit or be killed. My understanding is that the real believers will be taken up before the tribulation. There are many who are church goers or who know about Jesus. They will have an opportunity to get real, and pay the price, or turn away completely and be judged accordingly.

Is my understanding correct? I will find out one day, hopefully soon. It is possible to argue for many different interpretations while still remaining biblical. You may be right. You may not be right. It will happen according to God's plan and purpose no matter what we believe.

Thanks but its not the word of God telling me "cloud" really means cloud of witnesses though its org "clouds". Nor "air" doesn't mean atmosphere, but the breath of life body that God breathed into Adam. I've been searching out side of what I own and I could have missed it but I can't find that verse really means or translated "breath of life body that God breathed into Adam".

Which event are we talking about? Well for me no where does it say hint at Matt 24 1st Thess 4 17 are the same. Oh yes kinda for sure. Granted both leave out some things. I really doubt GOD just forgot in both cases. One the world sees Him no shout no voice He both times comes in the clouds as the angels said He would return the same way He went up. Angels gather the other no angels. Angels gather " from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. ". So "four winds from one end of heaven to the other" really means the earth I gather? Sure we went this far why not. I can keep going but I think we see where I am going here.

See I don't read look at this based on how I personally believe. Yes I can fully agree I see the same exact think you do. Why can't it be the same event? It can. Why can not it not be 2 events? We are telling Christ what He really said meant in His word? Some are doing this very thing. See I don't just stop here I must take into account other verses and then these to events for me do not match.

Body.. when we die and go to be with Him.. I believe in paradise. Are we as He is or is that still coming? No one that has died and are with Him are as He is. Our body is still flesh on this earth. I die my spirit goes to be with Him but my flesh goes back to where it came from. Those tow still have to be put together from what I read.

What happens if you believe in the rapture and Satan comes first, before the real Lord, saying he has come to rapture or fly you away? Because you are taught the rapture theory, you may easily be deceived.