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Roughsoul1991

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MANY SMALL PEOPLE WHO IN MANY SMALL PLACES DO MANY SMALL THINGS THAT CAN ALTER THE FACE OF THE WORLD

“On August 13, 1961, the Communist government of the German Democratic Republic (GDR, or East Germany) began to build a barbed wire and concrete “Antifascistischer Schutzwall,” or “antifascist bulwark,” between East and West Berlin. The official purpose of this Berlin Wall was to keep so-called Western “fascists” from entering East Germany and undermining the socialist state, but it primarily served the objective of stemming mass defections from East to West.”
https://www.history.com/topics/cold-war/berlin-wall

Parts of the wall still stand today as a physical reminder that Communism is never implemented voluntarily but by force and control.

The picture on the wall contains graffiti with the words, “Many small people, who in many small places, do many small things that can alter the face of the world.”

This could be a motto for the Christian, as the Bible states,

1 Corinthians 1:26-31
English Standard Version
26 For consider your calling, brothers: not many of you were wise according to worldly standards, not many were powerful, not many were of noble birth. 27 But God chose what is foolish in the world to shame the wise; God chose what is weak in the world to shame the strong; 28 God chose what is low and despised in the world, even things that are not, to bring to nothing things that are, 29 so that no human being might boast in the presence of God. 30 And because of him you are in Christ Jesus, who became to us wisdom from God, righteousness and sanctification and redemption, 31 so that, as it is written, “Let the one who boasts, boast in the Lord.”

God loves to work in the most unlikely ways and places to bring about his will. Almost every character in the Bible had a weakness or failure at one point in their life. They are relatable because if God can work through the rebellious, the slave, the murderer, the adulterer, the fearful, the uneducated, the weak, or even the results of sinful choices, then it should provide any one of us the courage knowing that God can take what we see as small to alter the whole world.

Often times it was the small efforts of many whose names were lost throughout history that contributed to the greatest of good.

For the Christian, we boast in the Lord. All we wish to know is Jesus Christ. That is the image we want to provide, so it isn't us seeking glory, credit, or making a name for ourselves. If my name is even remembered centuries from now, I only hope it is equipped with, “a man who loved Jesus Christ.”

John 3:30-36
English Standard Version

30 He must increase, but I must decrease.”

31 He who comes from above is above all. He who is of the earth belongs to the earth and speaks in an earthly way. He who comes from heaven is above all. 32 He bears witness to what he has seen and heard, yet no one receives his testimony. 33 Whoever receives his testimony sets his seal to this, that God is true. 34 For he whom God has sent utters the words of God, for he gives the Spirit without measure. 35 The Father loves the Son and has given all things into his hand. 36 Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him.

It is wise to live out the example of John the Baptist. We must decrease so that Jesus may increase. Our Earthly ways must decrease so that His ways will increase within us. We then begin to resemble His likeness as we become more Christ-like. It was originally the way of a disciple to Rabbi for the disciple to not only learn the Rabbi's teachings (his yoke) but to also imitate the Rabbi.

No matter if it is the evil of a Communist Socialist Party, abortion, governmental corruption, war, racism, the collapse of traditional families through adultery, divorce, lgbt ideologies, or the rise of the occult.

We must remember what once was a wall to separate the image of tyranny and liberty, evil and good; eventually, it gave way as good flooded the streets in triumph and victory.

We must never lose courage to the fact that with God, all things are possible as His will, will be done on Earth as it is in Heaven.

Even if all things look impossible, we serve a God that makes the impossible possible. Even if we do not see the fruit of our labor, future generations may reap from our tilling and planting. Even if all we face is death, we gain victory in salvation, for whoever believes in the Son has eternal life.

Our efforts will alter the face of the world.
 

soberxp

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I'm curious whether you can list the evil things that evil communism does, whether true or false, as long as you know.

Can you list what angel like beautiful things capitalism has done, whether true or false.

This is a small thing we can start first.
 

Magenta

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1 Corinthians 1:26-31
English Standard Version
26 For consider your calling, brothers: not many of you were wise according to worldly standards, not many were powerful, not many were of noble birth. 27 But God chose what is foolish in the world to shame the wise; God chose what is weak in the world to shame the strong; 28 God chose what is low and despised in the world, even things that are not, to bring to nothing things that are, 29 so that no human being might boast in the presence of God. 30 And because of him you are in Christ Jesus, who became to us wisdom from God, righteousness and sanctification and redemption, 31 so that, as it is written, “Let the one who boasts, boast in the Lord.”

1 Corinthians 1:27-29
:)
 

Magenta

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I'm curious whether you can list the evil things that evil communism does, whether true or false, as long as you know.

This is a small thing we can start first.
Private property is a given according to God's moral standard. Communism does not recognize this.

That may be a good place to start :)
 

Magenta

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I'm curious whether you can list the evil things that evil communism does, whether true or false, as long as you know.

Can you list what angel like beautiful things capitalism has done, whether true or false.

This is a small thing we can start first.
You may find this (<= link :)) enlightening.
 

Magenta

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I'm curious whether you can list the evil things that evil communism does, whether true or false, as long as you know.

This is a small thing we can start first.
Wiki has this to say about the Persecution of Christians in the Soviet Union

Throughout the history of the Soviet Union (1917–1991), there were periods when Soviet authorities
brutally suppressed and persecuted various forms of Christianity to different extents depending on
State interests. Soviet Marxist-Leninist policy consistently advocated the control, suppression, and
ultimately, the elimination of religious beliefs, and it actively encouraged the propagation of Marxist-
Leninist atheism in the SovietUnion. However, most religions were never officially outlawed.

The state advocated the destruction of religion, and to achieve this goal, it officially denounced religious
beliefs as superstitious and backward The Communist Party destroyed churches, synagogues, and mosques,
ridiculed, harassed, incarcerated and executed religious leaders, flooded the schools and media with anti-
religious teachings, and itintroduced a belief system called " scientific atheism", with its own rituals, promises
and proselytizers.According to some sources, the total number of Christian victims under the Soviet regime
has been estimated to range around 12 to 20 million.

At least 106,300 Russian clergymen were executed between 1937 and 1941. Religious beliefs and
practices persisted among the majority of the population, not only in the domestic and private
spheres but also in the scattered public spaces which were allowed to exist by a state that recognized
its failure to eradicate religion and the political dangers of an unrelenting culture war.
 

Magenta

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I'm curious whether you can list the evil things that evil communism does, whether true or false, as long as you know.

This is a small thing we can start first.
Mass killings under communist regimes occurred during the 20th century through a variety of means,
including execution, famine, and deaths through forced labour, deportation, and imprisonment.
Some of these events have been classified as genocides or crimes against humanity. Other terms
have been used to describe these events, including classicide, democide, red holocaust, and politicide.


The mass killings have been the subject of study by authors and academics and several have postulated
potential causes of and factors associated with the occurrences of these killings. Some authors have
tabulated a total death toll, consisting of all of the excess deaths which cumulatively occurred under
Communist states, although these death toll estimates have received criticism. The most common states
and events which are included are the Soviet Union, the Holodomor, and the Great Purge; the People's
Republic of China and the Great Chinese Famine and the Cultural Revolution; and Democratic Kampuchea
(now Cambodia) and the Cambodian genocide. Sometimes, other states and events have also been included.


also from wiki.
 

soberxp

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I don't want to argue about good and evil, but these are all in the past. Adding an evil in front of communism seems to be a small matter, but it may turn many people away from God.
 

JaumeJ

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There is no nation in possession of a flag that our Father waves or will be using in the Kingdom to come

Our Father is not a card-carrying politician, not of the left, and not of the right. He acquiesces to no flag and to no political doctrines of this age. He is our King for all eternity.

Political discussions are permitted in the forum but not proper to be IN THIS ONE, PERHAPS MISCELLANEOUS?
 

soberxp

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:rolleyes: LOL. Yeah. History usually is ;)

The weight of history is heavily against communism.
You only see the surface. The essence of things is human. The Bible says that no one is good except God.

The Cultural Revolution,everyone has a book about Quotations of Mao Zedong.

He said that many many small families to form a big family, Abandon the concept of small family and protect and care for this big family.

But some people launched the Cultural Revolution for their small families.

I thought about whether it would be as bad as the same if replaced this booklet with the Bible.

Go figure out.
 

Nehemiah6

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I'm curious whether you can list the evil things that evil communism does, whether true or false, as long as you know.
How about enslaving everyone who is not a part of the Politburo (or corresponding top level)?
 

soberxp

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How about enslaving everyone who is not a part of the Politburo (or corresponding top level)?
Puyi, the last emperor of China, entered the Labor Bureau to reform and then returned to social life.Later, he became a member of the National Committee of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference.

Is that what you're asking?
 

Gojira

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Jul 20, 2021
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MANY SMALL PEOPLE WHO IN MANY SMALL PLACES DO MANY SMALL THINGS THAT CAN ALTER THE FACE OF THE WORLD

“On August 13, 1961, the Communist government of the German Democratic Republic (GDR, or East Germany) began to build a barbed wire and concrete “Antifascistischer Schutzwall,” or “antifascist bulwark,” between East and West Berlin. The official purpose of this Berlin Wall was to keep so-called Western “fascists” from entering East Germany and undermining the socialist state, but it primarily served the objective of stemming mass defections from East to West.”
https://www.history.com/topics/cold-war/berlin-wall

Parts of the wall still stand today as a physical reminder that Communism is never implemented voluntarily but by force and control.

The picture on the wall contains graffiti with the words, “Many small people, who in many small places, do many small things that can alter the face of the world.”

This could be a motto for the Christian, as the Bible states,

1 Corinthians 1:26-31
English Standard Version
26 For consider your calling, brothers: not many of you were wise according to worldly standards, not many were powerful, not many were of noble birth. 27 But God chose what is foolish in the world to shame the wise; God chose what is weak in the world to shame the strong; 28 God chose what is low and despised in the world, even things that are not, to bring to nothing things that are, 29 so that no human being might boast in the presence of God. 30 And because of him you are in Christ Jesus, who became to us wisdom from God, righteousness and sanctification and redemption, 31 so that, as it is written, “Let the one who boasts, boast in the Lord.”

God loves to work in the most unlikely ways and places to bring about his will. Almost every character in the Bible had a weakness or failure at one point in their life. They are relatable because if God can work through the rebellious, the slave, the murderer, the adulterer, the fearful, the uneducated, the weak, or even the results of sinful choices, then it should provide any one of us the courage knowing that God can take what we see as small to alter the whole world.

Often times it was the small efforts of many whose names were lost throughout history that contributed to the greatest of good.

For the Christian, we boast in the Lord. All we wish to know is Jesus Christ. That is the image we want to provide, so it isn't us seeking glory, credit, or making a name for ourselves. If my name is even remembered centuries from now, I only hope it is equipped with, “a man who loved Jesus Christ.”

John 3:30-36
English Standard Version

30 He must increase, but I must decrease.”

31 He who comes from above is above all. He who is of the earth belongs to the earth and speaks in an earthly way. He who comes from heaven is above all. 32 He bears witness to what he has seen and heard, yet no one receives his testimony. 33 Whoever receives his testimony sets his seal to this, that God is true. 34 For he whom God has sent utters the words of God, for he gives the Spirit without measure. 35 The Father loves the Son and has given all things into his hand. 36 Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him.

It is wise to live out the example of John the Baptist. We must decrease so that Jesus may increase. Our Earthly ways must decrease so that His ways will increase within us. We then begin to resemble His likeness as we become more Christ-like. It was originally the way of a disciple to Rabbi for the disciple to not only learn the Rabbi's teachings (his yoke) but to also imitate the Rabbi.

No matter if it is the evil of a Communist Socialist Party, abortion, governmental corruption, war, racism, the collapse of traditional families through adultery, divorce, lgbt ideologies, or the rise of the occult.

We must remember what once was a wall to separate the image of tyranny and liberty, evil and good; eventually, it gave way as good flooded the streets in triumph and victory.

We must never lose courage to the fact that with God, all things are possible as His will, will be done on Earth as it is in Heaven.

Even if all things look impossible, we serve a God that makes the impossible possible. Even if we do not see the fruit of our labor, future generations may reap from our tilling and planting. Even if all we face is death, we gain victory in salvation, for whoever believes in the Son has eternal life.

Our efforts will alter the face of the world.
According to some members here, attempting any sort of political change is unGodly and futile. I'm in a debate now in 'to politic or not to politic'...something like that. And the rationales I'm reading against getting involved in your society show profoundly twisted reasoning. And, unfortunately, as the saying goes, too many Christians are too Heavenly-minded to be any earthly good.
 

JaumeJ

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According to some members here, attempting any sort of political change is unGodly and futile. I'm in a debate now in 'to politic or not to politic'...something like that. And the rationales I'm reading against getting involved in your society show profoundly twisted reasoning. And, unfortunately, as the saying goes, too many Christians are too Heavenly-minded to be any earthly good.
It is written we should be in the world but not of the world.
 

soberxp

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Private property is a given according to God's moral standard. Communism does not recognize this.

That may be a good place to start :)
Acts 2:44
Acts 4:32

Just because you have a heavenly mind, you can't deny any earthly good.
 

Adstar

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I don't want to argue about good and evil, but these are all in the past. Adding an evil in front of communism seems to be a small matter, but it may turn many people away from God.
In the Past???

Investigate Eritrea in Africa..
Investigate North Korea in Asia..
Investigate Venezualia in South America..

Not in the past soberxp but today...
 

soberxp

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In the Past???

Investigate Eritrea in Africa..
Investigate North Korea in Asia..
Investigate Venezualia in South America..

Not in the past soberxp but today...
So what ?
What you want to do ?

Because they don't want to be the lackeys of , they must bad.
 

Adstar

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So what ?
What you want to do ?

Because they don't want to be the lackeys of , they must bad.
So people are still being persecuted and enslaved in those 3 countries.. They are living in unjust communist societies today..

They are lackeys of the communists Kim Jon-ug,, Isaias Afwerki and Nicolás Maduro today..
 

soberxp

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So people are still being persecuted and enslaved in those 3 countries.. They are living in unjust communist societies today..

They are lackeys of the communists Kim Jon-ug,, Isaias Afwerki and Nicolás Maduro today..
There are no homeless people in North Korea,