Angels came down from heaven and were impregnated the daughters of Adam in an attempt to pollute the seed line that would lead to the birth of Christ. When you mix spiritual bodies with flesh bodies, the result is perversion of what is natural which resulted in giants being born. Noah's flood exterminated the offspring of the fallen angels and those that mixed with them.
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- Job 1:6
Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them.
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations - Job 2:1
Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the Lord.
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations - Job 38:7
when the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
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2 Peter 2:4
For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
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That is true in our standing with the Law. But there is a righteousness to pursue:
Paul writing to Timothy: "Flee also youthful lusts; but pursue righteousness, faith, love, peace with those who call on the Lord out of a pure heart."
In fact, much of the righteousness spoken of is not the imputed righteousness of Christ, that is innate, but the appearing of righteousness in those who mature in Christ. This is the "from glory to glory" referenced in 2 Corinthians by which we are... wait for it... transformed. If our original state was perfect there would be no appeal to continue forward.
We are all born unskilled in the word of righteousness. That is why we need milk and not solid food as an infant in Christ. We, like Jesus, learn obedience by the things we suffer.
So, no, son of God are not sons because they have no sin. They are sons because the Spirit of God is alive in them, having been born again of the Spirit.
And demons cannot simply decide to have a body of flesh.
Paul writing to Timothy: "Flee also youthful lusts; but pursue righteousness, faith, love, peace with those who call on the Lord out of a pure heart."
In fact, much of the righteousness spoken of is not the imputed righteousness of Christ, that is innate, but the appearing of righteousness in those who mature in Christ. This is the "from glory to glory" referenced in 2 Corinthians by which we are... wait for it... transformed. If our original state was perfect there would be no appeal to continue forward.
We are all born unskilled in the word of righteousness. That is why we need milk and not solid food as an infant in Christ. We, like Jesus, learn obedience by the things we suffer.
So, no, son of God are not sons because they have no sin. They are sons because the Spirit of God is alive in them, having been born again of the Spirit.
And demons cannot simply decide to have a body of flesh.
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• 1Cor 11:7-10 . . A man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image
and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of man. For man did not come
from woman, but woman from man; neither was man created for woman,
but woman for man. For this reason, and because of the angels, the woman
ought to have a token of authority on her head.
There's probably as much disagreement about the identity of the angels in
that passage as there is about the sons of God in the 6th chapter of Genesis.
Well; whoever these angels are, or whatever they are, they're apparently
indignant when they see women in church acting as though they're equals
with men.
Christians have simply got to come to grips with the fact that women will
never be equal to men in the divine order of things. No, they will always be
daddy's little girl. Ergo: women aren't from Venus after all; no, they're
actually the daughters of Mars (so to speak).
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• 1Cor 11:7-10 . . A man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image
and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of man. For man did not come
from woman, but woman from man; neither was man created for woman,
but woman for man. For this reason, and because of the angels, the woman
ought to have a token of authority on her head.
There's probably as much disagreement about the identity of the angels in
that passage as there is about the sons of God in the 6th chapter of Genesis.
Well; whoever these angels are, or whatever they are, they're apparently
indignant when they see women in church acting as though they're equals
with men.
Christians have simply got to come to grips with the fact that women will
never be equal to men in the divine order of things. No, they will always be
daddy's little girl. Ergo: women aren't from Venus after all; no, they're
actually the daughters of Mars (so to speak).
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POSIT: You are wrong! Gal 3:26-28 says: You are all sons of God through
faith in Christ Jesus, for all of you who were baptized into Christ have
clothed yourselves with Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor
free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
REPLY: It never seems to fail that somebody will come along and actually
attempt to refute Paul's statements by quoting other of his own
statements.
(chuckle) Paul pitted against Paul; the clash of the titans, only in this event,
both titans are one and the same titan. Yes, both genders are one in Christ;
but then Jesus and God are one also, yet there is a hierarchy in Divinity just
as there is a hierarchy in Man.
• 1Cor 11:3 . . But I would have you know, that the head of every man is
Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is
God.
NOTE: Are women poisoned by the so-called fallen nature? Yes they are;
and to see it in action just try telling them that men are superior in rank to
women in the Divine scheme of things and see if you don't get an argument.
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POSIT: You are wrong! Gal 3:26-28 says: You are all sons of God through
faith in Christ Jesus, for all of you who were baptized into Christ have
clothed yourselves with Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor
free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
REPLY: It never seems to fail that somebody will come along and actually
attempt to refute Paul's statements by quoting other of his own
statements.
(chuckle) Paul pitted against Paul; the clash of the titans, only in this event,
both titans are one and the same titan. Yes, both genders are one in Christ;
but then Jesus and God are one also, yet there is a hierarchy in Divinity just
as there is a hierarchy in Man.
• 1Cor 11:3 . . But I would have you know, that the head of every man is
Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is
God.
NOTE: Are women poisoned by the so-called fallen nature? Yes they are;
and to see it in action just try telling them that men are superior in rank to
women in the Divine scheme of things and see if you don't get an argument.
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after the Tower of Babel:
Deuteronomy 32:
8 When Elyon gave nations their heritage,
when He separated the sons of man,
He set boundaries for the people
by the number of the Son's of God.
9 But Adonai’s portion is His people—
Jacob is the share of His inheritance.
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NOTICE HERE:
God divides the Nations on Earth between Himself and the Son's of God [non humans] God takes Jacob's Lineage and the Son's of God have everyone else (Egyptians, Persians, Babylonians, Greeks, etc) who we know does not follow our God but False gods controlled by the Fallen Angels (Son's of God).
HOW DO WE KNOW THE SON'S OF GOD ARE NOT HUMAN?
Psalms 82:
1 God takes His stand in the assembly of God.
He judges among the ‘gods’:
here is ONE of 8 examples in the Bible discussing the Heavenly Council of God:
BUT WHERE'S THE PROOF THESE ARE ANGELS AND NOT HUMANS IN PSALMS 82?
Psalms 82:
6 I said: ‘You are ‘gods’,
and you are all sons of Elyon,
7 yet you will die like men:
VERSE 7 has God telling these Fallen Angels they will DIE LIKE MEN!
you don't tell man he will DIE like man because man already knows he is going to die like a man.
but you do tell Fallen Angels they will DIE like men because they were created to NEVER DIE.
and since we know the Garden Scene, Genesis 6 [Nephilim], and Tower of Babel were influenced by Fallen Angels to destroy the Lineage of the coming Messiah, it's easy to fill in the gaps here.
Deuteronomy 32:
8 When Elyon gave nations their heritage,
when He separated the sons of man,
He set boundaries for the people
by the number of the Son's of God.
9 But Adonai’s portion is His people—
Jacob is the share of His inheritance.
^
NOTICE HERE:
God divides the Nations on Earth between Himself and the Son's of God [non humans] God takes Jacob's Lineage and the Son's of God have everyone else (Egyptians, Persians, Babylonians, Greeks, etc) who we know does not follow our God but False gods controlled by the Fallen Angels (Son's of God).
HOW DO WE KNOW THE SON'S OF GOD ARE NOT HUMAN?
Psalms 82:
1 God takes His stand in the assembly of God.
He judges among the ‘gods’:
here is ONE of 8 examples in the Bible discussing the Heavenly Council of God:
BUT WHERE'S THE PROOF THESE ARE ANGELS AND NOT HUMANS IN PSALMS 82?
Psalms 82:
6 I said: ‘You are ‘gods’,
and you are all sons of Elyon,
7 yet you will die like men:
VERSE 7 has God telling these Fallen Angels they will DIE LIKE MEN!
you don't tell man he will DIE like man because man already knows he is going to die like a man.
but you do tell Fallen Angels they will DIE like men because they were created to NEVER DIE.
and since we know the Garden Scene, Genesis 6 [Nephilim], and Tower of Babel were influenced by Fallen Angels to destroy the Lineage of the coming Messiah, it's easy to fill in the gaps here.
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• Gen 11:5 . .Jehovah came down to look at the city and tower that man
had built,
That verse presents an interesting theological problem. Wouldn't it make
better sense by saying Jehovah looked down, instead of saying He "came"
down? Why bother to come down? Doesn't God see all and know all? Isn't
God omniscient and isn't His spirit omnipresent? Can't He see everything
from right where He is?
Well; fact of the matter is, yes, Jehovah could see the city and the tower
from Heaven, but He wasn't satisfied. It was His wish to inspect everything
up close and personal; to actually visit the city and the tower in person as an
on-site eye witness. He did it that way again with Sodom and Gomorrah.
(Gen 18:20-21)
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• Gen 11:5 . .Jehovah came down to look at the city and tower that man
had built,
That verse presents an interesting theological problem. Wouldn't it make
better sense by saying Jehovah looked down, instead of saying He "came"
down? Why bother to come down? Doesn't God see all and know all? Isn't
God omniscient and isn't His spirit omnipresent? Can't He see everything
from right where He is?
Well; fact of the matter is, yes, Jehovah could see the city and the tower
from Heaven, but He wasn't satisfied. It was His wish to inspect everything
up close and personal; to actually visit the city and the tower in person as an
on-site eye witness. He did it that way again with Sodom and Gomorrah.
(Gen 18:20-21)
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By their own volition? No.
Also, the sons of God are appearing again, today, as believers in Christ. This is the order to which men have been reconciled. They have always been men (humans). Assembling before God would have been common, as men who give an account to God.
Regarding Melchizedek, a priest in the current priesthood of believers: "without father, without mother, without genealogy, having neither beginning of days nor end of life, but made like the Son of God, remains a priest continually."
A son represents his father.
This is why we are to not call any man on earth "our father". Here, "our father" means "the one from whom we derive our identity and being" (there are perhaps eight meanings of the word "father" in the Greek). Sons of God, believers today, derive their being from God the Father. We may have earthly fathers, we may have spiritual fathers who watch over our souls, but we only have one Father from whom we derive our identity; the Living God. He is our Father because the spirit in us is of His Spirit: the same likeness. Through obedience, learned by what we suffer, we also grow in His image. By this we fulfill the covenant between the Son and the Father that framed creation. This transformation only occurs in Christ.
Also, the sons of God are appearing again, today, as believers in Christ. This is the order to which men have been reconciled. They have always been men (humans). Assembling before God would have been common, as men who give an account to God.
Regarding Melchizedek, a priest in the current priesthood of believers: "without father, without mother, without genealogy, having neither beginning of days nor end of life, but made like the Son of God, remains a priest continually."
A son represents his father.
This is why we are to not call any man on earth "our father". Here, "our father" means "the one from whom we derive our identity and being" (there are perhaps eight meanings of the word "father" in the Greek). Sons of God, believers today, derive their being from God the Father. We may have earthly fathers, we may have spiritual fathers who watch over our souls, but we only have one Father from whom we derive our identity; the Living God. He is our Father because the spirit in us is of His Spirit: the same likeness. Through obedience, learned by what we suffer, we also grow in His image. By this we fulfill the covenant between the Son and the Father that framed creation. This transformation only occurs in Christ.
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The disturbing scene depicted at Rev 20:11-15 will be presided over by none
other than the sweet little babe away in a manger.
• John 5:21-23 . . Moreover, the Father judges no one, but has entrusted all
judgment to the Son
• Acts 17:31 . . He has set a day when He will judge the world with justice
by the man he has appointed. He has given proof of this to all men by
raising him from the dead.
Impious misandry women out there in cyberspace need to keep something
in mind. At the great white throne event, they are going to be judged solely
on the basis of their lives rather than the basis of their looks. Christ will be
neither influenced nor impressed by the silkiness of their thighs nor the size
of their bosoms; no, in point of fact; he will be quite determined to disfigure
them by a manner of death akin to a foundry worker falling into a kettle of
molten iron. The first thing to go will be their hair, and then extremities.
• Rev 20:15 . . And whosoever's name was not found written in the book of
life was cast into the lake of fire.
There will no doubt be some bent noses over these comments and see them
as denigrating to women (while conveniently ignoring that it's a double
standard to think it's okay to denigrate men). Well, I have to ask: since
when did women become a protected species? Women are not a protected
species. There are just as many, if not more, women languishing in Hell as
men because God is not influenced by chivalry and/or political correctness.
• Rom 2:9-11. .There will be trouble and distress for every human being who
does evil: for God does not show favoritism.
That verse tell me there will be just as many, if not more, women as men
thrown into the reservoir of brimstone depicted at Rev 20:11-15 because
women's gender won't be a mitigating factor when they face justice at the
Great White Throne event.
* The bitter irony of it all is that God has delegated the task of humanity's
final evaluation to His son; viz: in the end, it will be a man who casts
condemned misandry women into Hell and permanently ruins any chances
they might have had for happiness in the future. For all eternity, they will
grind their teeth with hot tears and clenched-fist fury that they ultimately
lost out on everything because of one lone male's obsessive control over
their lives.
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The disturbing scene depicted at Rev 20:11-15 will be presided over by none
other than the sweet little babe away in a manger.
• John 5:21-23 . . Moreover, the Father judges no one, but has entrusted all
judgment to the Son
• Acts 17:31 . . He has set a day when He will judge the world with justice
by the man he has appointed. He has given proof of this to all men by
raising him from the dead.
Impious misandry women out there in cyberspace need to keep something
in mind. At the great white throne event, they are going to be judged solely
on the basis of their lives rather than the basis of their looks. Christ will be
neither influenced nor impressed by the silkiness of their thighs nor the size
of their bosoms; no, in point of fact; he will be quite determined to disfigure
them by a manner of death akin to a foundry worker falling into a kettle of
molten iron. The first thing to go will be their hair, and then extremities.
• Rev 20:15 . . And whosoever's name was not found written in the book of
life was cast into the lake of fire.
There will no doubt be some bent noses over these comments and see them
as denigrating to women (while conveniently ignoring that it's a double
standard to think it's okay to denigrate men). Well, I have to ask: since
when did women become a protected species? Women are not a protected
species. There are just as many, if not more, women languishing in Hell as
men because God is not influenced by chivalry and/or political correctness.
• Rom 2:9-11. .There will be trouble and distress for every human being who
does evil: for God does not show favoritism.
That verse tell me there will be just as many, if not more, women as men
thrown into the reservoir of brimstone depicted at Rev 20:11-15 because
women's gender won't be a mitigating factor when they face justice at the
Great White Throne event.
* The bitter irony of it all is that God has delegated the task of humanity's
final evaluation to His son; viz: in the end, it will be a man who casts
condemned misandry women into Hell and permanently ruins any chances
they might have had for happiness in the future. For all eternity, they will
grind their teeth with hot tears and clenched-fist fury that they ultimately
lost out on everything because of one lone male's obsessive control over
their lives.
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