I think people will be surprised in this election on who wins and who loses.

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tourist

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I think you will find more than half like Trump. Nobody is worshipping him, anymore than Obama. I think a lot of people are looking at where we are compared to before Biden and are smart enough to see Trump wasn't so bad.
I don't believe that Biden will finish his first term. Replacement is even worse.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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You mentioned a world government and the World bank is not a government.

The world Bank does not have an army.
Lol. Thats hilarious. They have an army. Its the US army.
 
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kaylagrl

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I'm trending towards Ron DeSantis of Florida. Sick of Trump's constant whining about the 2020 election. Guy is too old too. As someone said recently, it's time for a generational change.

Ron won't run if Trump does...
 

JTB

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There will not be any surprises for next week's mid-term elections. Democrats are going to get clobbered. God appoints all those in positions of authority whether or not they are perceived as good or evil.
Would you say that will include the antichrist? Does God appoint the antichrist?
 

JTB

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My family are unbelievers, non Christian family.

How can people follow a false prophet when most churches do not even have true prophets?

Pick one of the following end time interpretations and tell me why that one is correct.

1) Pre-Tribulation Premillennial
2) Mid-Tribulation Premillennial
3) Post-Tribulation Premillennial
4) Pre-Wrath
5) Preterism
6) Partial Preterism
7) Hyper Preterism
8) Amillennial
From my study and understanding, the 7 year tribulation period is two 3 1/2 year periods. The first is judgment, the second is wrath. The Bible says we will see judgment but not wrath. So that puts us mid-trib/prewrath.

But overall, my opinion is:

Pray for pre
Prepare for post
And any other time, like right now, would be just fine with me : )
 

CS1

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I don't believe that Biden will finish his first term. Replacement is even worse.
I have been praying he does because the alternative is no good and far more foolish. I know first hand as she is from CA.
 

JTB

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No. Jesus Christ will reward all those who fought against abortion-killing, sodomy, gender-mutilation ("transgenderism") etc. And of course Good Christians who do oppose those things do it in Love for Christ's sake, and for the genuine good of people. It is a great sin to lie and tell a boy who experiences some gender confusion that he is "really" a girl and encourage him to change his sex, as these liberal nutjobs do; a decision he may regret for life after he does it. And similarly to lie to women and even young girls and tell them to "become" men, which no one can really do anyway, but only amounts to mutilating one's genitals and oneself. Even those who actually get confused by the liberals are arguably less guilty than those liberals who encourage such confusion. "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them." (Gen 1:27). God created us male and female.

On the other hand, He will punish those who said killing children is fine and went on supporting it and died unrepentant.

This false idea that conservativism and liberalism are both equal or that it is somehow good to be "neutral" between them is totally wrong. Liberals are maybe -99% (basically all-in) in supporting grave evils like these. Conservatives may be at most a little weak or imperfect, but they on the whole vote against the bad legislation most of the time. They may be like +95% good, and there may be some areas where they could be stronger. Yet, between +95% and -99% there is no comparison. As someone said earlier on, voting for abortion, sodomy, gender mutilation is a grave sin and we shouldn't.

And neither should we be neutral between it and say it's all one and the same or "they're all equally bad" or some other false sophism like that. No, it isn't. We should oppose the evils and support any good person who promises to end or limit it.



Agreed 100%. Well said.

God Bless.
I agree that the liberal agenda is godless and should be fought.

But again, I question is fighting abortion and immorality a valid reason to support mammon worship, cheating workers, abandoning the sick, poor, and foreigner, and embracing lies and hypocrisy?

The enemy of our enemy is NOT our friend. This battle is won on our knees, not in the ballot box.
 

JTB

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Democrats collectively are wicked because of the very Platform they hold to. Which are very racist.

GOP has corrupted people at the helm; we get rid of Mitch, Graham, and others who were removed already, like Liz Cheney. The GOP is posed to be better. We must hold them accountable the democrats do not do that. At all. BUT the GOP are wimps :)
Liz Cheney is a lone voice of reason in the GOP.
 

JTB

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i just feel led by the Spirit to say this:

if Democrats take over the Senate, then Followers of God should be preparing themselves for very bad times.

if Republicans take control of the Senate, then it's not God's timing for what is and will be coming.

Personally, i feel bad times are around the corner.


i watched an interview with the Vice President who said, if Democrats win the Senate, Biden will take the power away from States to assert rulings toward Abortion Rights. she went onto say she is the President of the Senate and her VOTE is the deciding factor. she also said they plan to REVERSE Roe vs Wade. she also mentioned other things they wanted to get passed into Law.

so all i am saying, if Democrats win, be prepared for true Hellion on Earth, especially here in the United States.

btw, one of the things she spoke about passing into Law, going CASHLESS!

that means credit cards and RFID Chips!

we are this close to a full blown Satanic World Powered Control and the USA will lead the rest into it.
Hate to tell you, but BOTH roads lead to tribulation.

Roads to tribulation 500.jpg
 

JTB

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I have never voted for anyone, regardless of political party that are pro-death.
I vote third party, just to put a check in the 'none of the above' column.
 

JTB

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I don't believe that Biden will finish his first term. Replacement is even worse.
That, my friend, is the true election fraud. The dems want Harris but she could never win on her own. So they slide her in on Biden's coat tails, intending to retire Biden before his term expires so she can run as an incumbent.
 
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kaylagrl

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This battle is won on our knees, not in the ballot box.

I disagree. Pray first, then vote. We have saved lives by what has happened with Roe. Abortion is America's greatest sin of this current age.
 

JohnB

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Democrats collectively are wicked because of the very Platform they hold to. Which are very racist.

GOP has corrupted people at the helm; we get rid of Mitch, Graham, and others who were removed already, like Liz Cheney. The GOP is posed to be better. We must hold them accountable the democrats do not do that. At all. BUT the GOP are wimps :)
Now this was the iniquity of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed, and complacent; they did not help the poor and needy. (Republicans) Thus they were haughty and committed abominations before me (Democrats) Ezekiel 16:49
 
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persistent

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No. Jesus Christ will reward all those who fought against abortion-killing, sodomy, gender-mutilation ("transgenderism") etc. And of course Good Christians who do oppose those things do it in Love for Christ's sake, and for the genuine good of people. It is a great sin to lie and tell a boy who experiences some gender confusion that he is "really" a girl and encourage him to change his sex, as these liberal nutjobs do; a decision he may regret for life after he does it. And similarly to lie to women and even young girls and tell them to "become" men, which no one can really do anyway, but only amounts to mutilating one's genitals and oneself. Even those who actually get confused by the liberals are arguably less guilty than those liberals who encourage such confusion. "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them." (Gen 1:27). God created us male and female.

On the other hand, He will punish those who said killing children is fine and went on supporting it and died unrepentant.

This false idea that conservativism and liberalism are both equal or that it is somehow good to be "neutral" between them is totally wrong. Liberals are maybe -99% (basically all-in) in supporting grave evils like these. Conservatives may be at most a little weak or imperfect, but they on the whole vote against the bad legislation most of the time. They may be like +95% good, and there may be some areas where they could be stronger. Yet, between +95% and -99% there is no comparison. As someone said earlier on, voting for abortion, sodomy, gender mutilation is a grave sin and we shouldn't.

And neither should we be neutral between it and say it's all one and the same or "they're all equally bad" or some other false sophism like that. No, it isn't. We should oppose the evils and support any good person who promises to end or limit it.
This argument can be persuasive as the points you make are legitimate. Consider this: Here in Chicago, a democratic leaning city, there are people who vote Democratic solely for union support and I personally have a good laugh LOL>>LOL>>>with friends that say these union supporters would hang themselves if they didn't support the Democratic Party. So your points while valid do not give the full picture and no human agency can do so. Ultimately God is in control and our votes Dem or Rep don't matter. Jesus will probably not consider either as 'sin'.
 

soberxp

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It's better to secretly vote for Jesus. When politicians need Iran, Iran is a friend, Venezuela is a friend, and when they don't need it, they are targets. Europe is an ally, but when they need to kill and eat meat, what is an ally?

These poor politicians play pitiful games all days, deceiving themselves and others.
 
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I can't believe that AFTER Roe v Wade was overturned, we're have this discussion. If it was before, when people were saying it would never actually be overturned, that would be one thing. Conservatives, imperfect to be sure, voted nearly 100% for all the Judges that overturned RvW, not to mention it was all Republican Presidents, including Trump most recently, who appointed all those Justices that overturned it.

Liberals, now having become near perfect in doing EVIL, fought and opposed those judges tooth and nail and nearly prevailed; and if they had, 100s of thousands of lives would not have been saved. Just consider that for a moment. I support doing things for the poor etc, but the law protecting poor unborn children from deliberate killing comes first.

The idea that both those who are imperfect in doing good and those near perfect in deliberately doing evil are somehow equal or it is good to be indifferent or neutral between them is just totally false, sorry, and itself liberal. If one chooses to be neutral between them, that is no different from choosing to be neutral when it was time to end slavery or the Holocaust. It would be like saying, oh Abe Lincoln is just as bad as the rest of them. Or the Allies as bad as the Nazis etc.

God Bless.
 
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The idea that both those who are imperfect in doing good and those near perfect in deliberately doing evil are somehow equal or it is good to be indifferent or neutral between them is just totally false, sorry, and itself liberal. If one chooses to be neutral between them, that is no different from choosing to be neutral when it was time to end slavery or the Holocaust. It would be like saying, oh Abe Lincoln is just as bad as the rest of them. Or the Allies as bad as the Nazis etc.
John 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.
 
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persistent

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I can't believe that AFTER Roe v Wade was overturned, we're have this discussion. If it was before, when people were saying it would never actually be overturned, that would be one thing. Conservatives, imperfect to be sure, voted nearly 100% for all the Judges that overturned RvW, not to mention it was all Republican Presidents, including Trump most recently, who appointed all those Justices that overturned it.

Liberals, now having become near perfect in doing EVIL, fought and opposed those judges tooth and nail and nearly prevailed; and if they had, 100s of thousands of lives would not have been saved. Just consider that for a moment. I support doing things for the poor etc, but the law protecting poor unborn children from deliberate killing comes first.

The idea that both those who are imperfect in doing good and those near perfect in deliberately doing evil are somehow equal or it is good to be indifferent or neutral between them is just totally false, sorry, and itself liberal. If one chooses to be neutral between them, that is no different from choosing to be neutral when it was time to end slavery or the Holocaust. It would be like saying, oh Abe Lincoln is just as bad as the rest of them. Or the Allies as bad as the Nazis etc.
James 4:2 Ye lust, and have not: ye kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain: ye fight and war, yet ye have not, because ye ask not.
 

Aslanfriend

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I wonder how Prop 1 in California is going to go. I can't fathom how they want to make abortion a "right." Of course the wording of it doesn't use the word abortion, but uses the umbrella term of "reproductive rights" for all women in CA, like access to birth control, etc., but if you read between the lines, you know exactly what they mean.