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Dude653

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Be more specific, because three things sold in a vitamin shop have been proven scientifically and statistically to be effective against Covid and viral infections.
Well when it comes to medication and health treatment, I will consult my position before I consult people who get their information from Facebook memes
 

ZNP

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Well when it comes to medication and health treatment, I will consult my position before I consult people who get their information from Facebook memes
Yeah, that isn't going to fly in a court of law if you are trying to convict him of fraud. You need to do better than that.
 

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I could go into the reasons why I disagree with that but I'm not here to talk anyone out of their faith I feel like everyone has a right to believe or not believe as they choose. And again I'm not saying all Christians are like this because most of my friends are Christian and are pretty chill
I'm talking about the ones who think everyone has to share their beliefs and get butt hurt when people don't.
People talk about fascism. Trying to force your beliefs on others is literally fascism
I do not follow the logic here. By your logic only LGBT supporters can force their beliefs on everyone with the threat of discrimination?
 

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Well the mask thing is debatable but cold it is contagious up to 6 ft so I can see the concern about social distancing back when covid was at his peak
However that's still not the same thing is selling a product and claiming it does something that it doesn't. That's fraud
People died because of false claims. It's exactly equivalent.
And the harm done to children by masking may be irreversible. And some are still advocating their use.
 
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Well that's my point. Not everyone in America is Christian and they don't have to be. But a certain element in this group thinks only Christians are supposed to have constitutional rights.
So they want to try to force their beliefs on others and then have the nerve to pretend to be persecuted when people push back
Again, law abiding citizens have a right to be left alone and what consenting adults are doing is none of your business.


And yet there is a large group of gays have an agenda to push their beliefs on the church. And it won't be long before a pastor will not have a choice and will have to marry gay couples. The day is coming, you watch and see. And now we have trans story time, and events for "family" where men dressed in drag do vulgar things involving children. If you don't think there is an agenda being pushed you are ignoring it. No, not every gay person is part of it, but there are a militant group and they are going to have their way.
 

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People died because of false claims. It's exactly equivalent.
And the harm done to children by masking may be irreversible. And some are still advocating their use.
What’s the harm masks cause to children?
 
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People died because of false claims. It's exactly equivalent.
And the harm done to children by masking may be irreversible. And some are still advocating their use.

I still see people with masks and I just shake my head. I briefly wore the mask, but by the summer of love, I was done. I saw the hypocrisy and I threw them in the trash. After a while my local stores just stopped asking me.
 

Dude653

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I do not follow the logic here. By your logic only LGBT supporters can force their beliefs on everyone with the threat of discrimination?
You're talking about the baker thing, I think the baker had a religious right because there were plenty of other bakers who would accommodate them
If you're talking about an employer firing someone for being gay then they have a discrimination case
Or when the state of Kentucky got sued because a clerk refused to obey the law and then, taxpayers were on the hook to pay for it
 

Dude653

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I still see people with masks and I just shake my head. I briefly wore the mask, but by the summer of love, I was done. I saw the hypocrisy and I threw them in the trash. After a while my local stores just stopped asking me.
I think the idea behind the mask is that it spreads through moisture from the lungs and the mask was allegedly reducing that
But a private business can demand that you wear a chicken suit to access the property if they want to because that's how the free market works
Property owner makes the rules
 

ZNP

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People died because of false claims. It's exactly equivalent.
And the harm done to children by masking may be irreversible. And some are still advocating their use.
Not only so but they didn't simply advocate this, they mandated it.
 

ZNP

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What’s the harm masks cause to children?
1. It harms their mental development.

2. Kids will wear the same mask for an entire day, 8 hours or longer and they become fully infected and promote pneumonia and respiratory diseases.

3. It has been proven that masks restrict the oxygen and increase the carbon dioxide affecting your ability to learn.

4. Mandating masks for everyone puts the kids in fear.
 

Cameron143

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What’s the harm masks cause to children?
Hey brother and good morning. 2 things:

1. It's unhealthy to breathe through the same mask continually. The mask itself will acquire germs over time. As well, breathing through masks allows less oxygen in and less CO2 out so the quality of the air getting to the bodies cells is reduced. This is not exactly conducive to a learning environment. If you recall, the whole idea behind school breakfast and lunch programs was that children needed the proper nutrition to be able to learn optimally.

2. Children learn speech correctly as the watch the mouths of those speaking move as they ennunciate words. This, of course, was widely restricted by masks.
 

ZNP

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You're talking about the baker thing, I think the baker had a religious right because there were plenty of other bakers who would accommodate them
If you're talking about an employer firing someone for being gay then they have a discrimination case
Or when the state of Kentucky got sued because a clerk refused to obey the law and then, taxpayers were on the hook to pay for it
I'm talking about potential lawsuits against churches that have "Men" and "Women" bathrooms.

I am also concerned with Christian schools that will be in lawsuits over hate speech for teaching the bible.
 

ZNP

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I think the idea behind the mask is that it spreads through moisture from the lungs and the mask was allegedly reducing that
But a private business can demand that you wear a chicken suit to access the property if they want to because that's how the free market works
Property owner makes the rules
No, the businesses were not mandating the masks, the government was. Get your facts straight. The businesses were complying with the health codes mandated by the government.
 

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Hey brother and good morning. 2 things:

1. It's unhealthy to breathe through the same mask continually. The mask itself will acquire germs over time. As well, breathing through masks allows less oxygen in and less CO2 out so the quality of the air getting to the bodies cells is reduced. This is not exactly conducive to a learning environment. If you recall, the whole idea behind school breakfast and lunch programs was that children needed the proper nutrition to be able to learn optimally.

2. Children learn speech correctly as the watch the mouths of those speaking move as they ennunciate words. This, of course, was widely restricted by masks.
And you homeschool your children right?
 

ZNP

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However that's still not the same thing is selling a product and claiming it does something that it doesn't. That's fraud
Got it. I'd like all those who said that Twitter has the right to censor people because they are a private company and that is not a violation of the constitution when in fact they were being directed by the US government intelligence community and DNC and Biden campaign. Now that the evidence has been released proving that Twitter was acting on their instructions I would like everyone making those fraudulent claims have to stand trial for fraud.

I am not assuming that you and all the others are guilty, but I think you should have to stand trial and show that there is reasonable doubt that you were not perpetrating a fraud on the rest of us.

We have your fraudulent claims in writing, I think that is enough to demand a trial. Preserve your records.
 

Dude653

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Got it. I'd like all those who said that Twitter has the right to censor people because they are a private company and that is not a violation of the constitution when in fact they were being directed by the US government intelligence community and DNC and Biden campaign. Now that the evidence has been released proving that Twitter was acting on their instructions I would like everyone making those fraudulent claims have to stand trial for fraud.

I am not assuming that you and all the others are guilty, but I think you should have to stand trial and show that there is reasonable doubt that you were not perpetrating a fraud on the rest of us.
I don't know. I really don't know what Twitter is doing because I follow like maybe 20 people
Sam Harris deleted his account so that's one less I follow now
 

ZNP

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I don't know. I really don't know what Twitter is doing because I follow like maybe 20 people
Sam Harris deleted his account so that's one less I follow now
You have written on this forum that they had the right to censor posts because they were a private company and that it was not a violation of the US constitutional right to the freedom of speech.

That is false. They were directed by a variety of entities of the US federal government, it was a violation of freedom of speech, it resulted in an election being stolen and since a foreign government was involved that is treasonous. Get a good lawyer, preserve your documents.

As a result of that stolen election the policies of the border changed and the deaths from Fentanyl overdose virtually doubled to 108,000 in 2021. Now those 50,000 deaths were more than the kids killed at any school shooting. So there may be quite a bit of lawsuits from those families affected against anyone involved in this stolen election.