Divorce...

I understand that, but how do you consider that to be polygamy when the original husband was dead?

I'm just starting to go through this thread, so I don't know what others here have said yet.

You asked if God likes these marriages that you described, and I think that the obvious answer is no. However, this doesn't mean that the solution is necessarily divorce. What about repentance? In the cases that you mentioned, have either of the wronged parties, who are probably guilty of some wrongs themselves, followed the Biblical pattern for possible reconciliation? In other words, have they gone to their spouses first, then brought in two or three other witnesses, and ultimately taken the matter before the church if the first two attempts for reconciliation have failed? Or, will they simply turn to the secular courts for a way out of a presently bad situation?

The guidelines for divorce are laid out In Deuteronomy 24:1-4 Jesus never changed those guidelines.
People get hung up on Jesus’s words in the gospels because they don’t understand the context. Pharisee types were manipulating the law, they were sending out their wives without the proper divorce certificate for everything under the sun. They did this for many reasons. One main reason was to avoid paying the ketubah (sort of like alimony) which was only payable to the wife if she held the keriythuth (divorce certificate) A form of this is still practiced today by some Jewish folks.

So essentially Jesus was saying, the only time you should send her away without the divorce cert is in the case of “sexual infidelity”.

There’s a lot more to it of course but this should help those seeking truth on the topic get started. Just be careful, some english translators got a little divorce happy, they seemingly put the word divorce in everyplace they could.
Should really have a concordance for an in depth study, some free ones on the App Store.

Thanks. That’s an interesting lead on a perspective I hadn’t thought of before.

God didn't create us to be abused by our spouse.

God may hate divorce but I'm sure he hates to see a wife beaten to death by her husband.

Divorce can save a life. And God forgives. Since we're not Jews the rules regarding divorce don't apply.

Divorce can save a life. Because love isn't wrapped in terrorism.

But what do the scriptures say? You haven't mentioned one. I find that it is safer to discern what the scripture says rather than what I think.

Post the scripture where Jesus approves spousal abuse.

He doesn't approve of it. There is just no scriptural basis for divorce because of abuse.
This doesn't mean women and children should not seek safety. It just means the scripture doesn't allow for divorce on grounds of abuse.

That's legalism.

If God joins couples together and he doesn't approve domestic violence the it may be inferred such a marriage was not a union made by God. And therefore,divorce is proper because God would not join a woman with an unbeliever.
Rather, that union is of God's enemy.

Be not unequally yoked with unbelievers.

I don't think a woman should only have known marriage is as an abusive relationship.

And if she lives to divorce should not have to remain yoked to her abuser even in spirit.

God forgives.

1 Corinthians 7 deals with this subject.

He doesn't approve of it. There is just no scriptural basis for divorce because of abuse.
This doesn't mean women and children should not seek safety. It just means the scripture doesn't allow for divorce on grounds of abuse.

'15 ''But if the unbelieving partner separates, let it be so.''

How often do abusive spouses seek divorce?Their behavior intends to make the wife subservient.

Divorce and he'd have to start all over again.

Plus, if marriage makes the two one flesh what is spousal abuse but self abuse?

Here's another thing. Some of us argue we're not Jews so we don't have to follow what they insist is a practice in Judaism.

Yet when it comes to divorce they're making an exception.

I know a woman who was married to a devil. But, he professed to be Christian.
To save her life after years of abuse, no kids thank God, she ran away while he was at work.

She came to my then home state. And after serious introspection, and healing of her injuries, she filed for divorce.
When he was served he ignored the summons. She was awarded the divorce by default.

That was ten years ago. After the divorce she changed her life and her name. An attorney arranged a different SSN. No idea how.

She's remarried and celebrated her 4th anniversary in a different state from where I lived and is the happiest I've seen her in ever.

If God thinks she is still married to a creature who beat her so she could barely stand, dragged her to the toilet, pushed her head into the blue water in the toilet and held her under, while putting a 380 pistol to the back of her head so she could feel the dry fire clicks as he pulled the trigger repeatedly, I'm in the wrong faith.

I know I'm not in the wrong faith. And all the dead wives and husbands too who died after ''I do'', do too.

No woman or man should die alone, unmarried, because a devil tricked them to the altar.

One devil already tricked a woman, and her husband too. And that fell the entire human race.
Jesus came to free us from that.
I don't believe Jesus would expect us to not save ourselves from a devil of a spouse.
And live unmarried after to the day we die gives that devil control even after we're out of reach of his,her,fists.

My friend isn't an adultress. Now, she's a glowing happy healthy proud Mrs.
And God blessed her every day.
😊

Yes there is scriptural basis for divorce because of abuse.

Do share please.

The famous Malachi verse where God says "I hate divorce". The fullness of the passage is that God hates abuse more.

The famous Malachi verse where God says "I hate divorce". The fullness of the passage is that God hates abuse more.

That must be in "The Message" version of the Bible. =^.^=

No I'm not saying God is cool with abuse. But there are more logical ways to argue it. NOTHING in the Bible says God hates abuse more than divorce. First you'd have to define what kind of abuse you're talking about, and then find chapter and verse.

I know that it's difficult to simply trust someone else's understanding of scriptures...especially when I don't exactly have a job description of preacher or televangelist.

But what you are asking for is a very long dissertation that explains the nuances of anthropology of the Ancient Near East in Israel and then go further in explaining the intricacies of Hebrew poetry.

It's a big ask...especially for a social media platform...where any opinion is instantly dismissed by the dumbest participants.

Well so far this divorce thread has been chasing its tail just like all the divorce threads do. Go ahead and give it a try. Can't be worse.