Justified/Saved by Faith & Faith Alone
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You should care, we should all care because the commentaries, pulpits and the internet has teachings based on his faulty understanding of the book of James.
We should always be aware of false teaching which has been incorporated into the faith.
Along with the fact of the emotional toll this has taken on people, being taught to look to their works to see if they are saved.
We should always be aware of false teaching which has been incorporated into the faith.
Along with the fact of the emotional toll this has taken on people, being taught to look to their works to see if they are saved.
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Thank you for your personal comment, but you do not know me. The fruit inspectors are the ones that argue there must be works for their to be salvation.
That would not be me, when one correctly understands James, this whole Lordship salvation dogma melts away and their is no judgment and works inspection.
I am actual aware that we still have a nature, the flesh, the world and Satan with which to contend.
So far no one can state which work and how many specifically validates salvation so we know they are saved
That would not be me, when one correctly understands James, this whole Lordship salvation dogma melts away and their is no judgment and works inspection.
I am actual aware that we still have a nature, the flesh, the world and Satan with which to contend.
So far no one can state which work and how many specifically validates salvation so we know they are saved
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"Dead" in James means useless, not being used, inoperative.
A dead body is still there, it was never non-existent.
I think we need to be logical.
If a person has faith, but they do not have works, this does not mean that their faith does not exist, or that it never existed.
No, the incorruptible seed is still there, even though the works are not.
But in such a situation, faith is not accomplishing the purpose and goal which God intended for it.
The faith is dead. The absence of works is not allowing the faith to carry out God’s plan and purposes in the world.
A dead body is still there, it was never non-existent.
I think we need to be logical.
If a person has faith, but they do not have works, this does not mean that their faith does not exist, or that it never existed.
No, the incorruptible seed is still there, even though the works are not.
But in such a situation, faith is not accomplishing the purpose and goal which God intended for it.
The faith is dead. The absence of works is not allowing the faith to carry out God’s plan and purposes in the world.
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The works that are evidence of faith are those born out of the work God does in us. As God works in us, the fruit of the Spirit will be evidenced in our words and actions. There will be a display of love and peace and joy and gentleness and longsuffering as we interact with the world.
The evidence can be seen in the works done; but, more so, it is seen in the manner in which they are performed.
The evidence can be seen in the works done; but, more so, it is seen in the manner in which they are performed.
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Not.
Works are the evidence, not the precipitator.
We live by faith, not by works. All things hinge on faith.
"Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him." - Hebrews 10:38
The Spirit is a gentleman and will not abide where not wanted and welcomed.
No, but it may be appropriate to express concern.
Works are the evidence, not the precipitator.
We live by faith, not by works. All things hinge on faith.
"Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him." - Hebrews 10:38
The Spirit is a gentleman and will not abide where not wanted and welcomed.
No, but it may be appropriate to express concern.
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you have yet torespond to my post. I will repost again Can you show how the below is wrong?
James states plainly.
James 2: 14 What does it profit, my brethren, if someone claims he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him?
this is the context of what james is saying
1. He does not say they have faith, he said they CLAIMED to have faith
2. He asked the question. can this "claimed" faith save them (salvation is in question)
He is talking to people who claim they have faith, who say they are questions. he is asking them, if you claim you have faith but have no works, can faith really save you??
he then states that CLAIMED faith is dead (no faith at all)
again, a faith that is dead is no faith at all.. It can not save!!
James states plainly.
James 2: 14 What does it profit, my brethren, if someone claims he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him?
this is the context of what james is saying
1. He does not say they have faith, he said they CLAIMED to have faith
2. He asked the question. can this "claimed" faith save them (salvation is in question)
He is talking to people who claim they have faith, who say they are questions. he is asking them, if you claim you have faith but have no works, can faith really save you??
he then states that CLAIMED faith is dead (no faith at all)
again, a faith that is dead is no faith at all.. It can not save!!
Agree 100 percent.
James is using examples of people who already are converted and using their faith for God.
They still have their conversion if they didn't do the acts they did.
Finally some one reading James the same way I do!
James is using examples of people who already are converted and using their faith for God.
They still have their conversion if they didn't do the acts they did.
Finally some one reading James the same way I do!
And it is the correct way, logical, considers the audience, the time period and the culture of the time.
Agree 100 percent.
James is using examples of people who already are converted and using their faith for God.
They still have their conversion if they didn't do the acts they did.
Finally some one reading James the same way I do!
James is using examples of people who already are converted and using their faith for God.
They still have their conversion if they didn't do the acts they did.
Finally some one reading James the same way I do!
Which is why I think the "sola fide" idea is just so ridicilous. ALL the reformers who believed in Sola Fide and invented the phrase also believed that " living faith is never alone" because thats what dozens maybe hundreds of verses teach.
Therefore, why even call it faith alone? if "real faith" is never alone? I'll tell you why, because we must be different from the catholics so lets do it like this, gonna be real catchy.
Therefore, why even call it faith alone? if "real faith" is never alone? I'll tell you why, because we must be different from the catholics so lets do it like this, gonna be real catchy.