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mustaphadrink

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I am convinced the whole transgender thing is a beat-up by Satan to distort the truth of God's word. In Genesis chapter 1 v 26 it says that God made them male and female. (That is you and me). And in doing this he made us in the image of himself.

There are many other verses that concur with this fact.

What does transgenderism do? It distorts the image of God and the purpose of his creation. Just as homosexuality plays havoc with God's intention for the family.

The fact is if you are born a male, you are a male and if you are born a female, you are a female. There is no third way and the scripture does not say once that a person is transgender or can become transgender.

A person who claims to be transgender is someone who has come under the influence of Satan who convinces them that they are not what God created them to be.

There are numerous stories of people who have changed sex and they have discovered becoming transgender has not solved the problem. The underlying cause of their problems are still there, indicating that being a boy or a girl has nothing at all to do with it.

Many people who have detransitioned found that they were actually Aspergers or autistic and that was the cause of their unease.

So the bottom line is God made them (us) male and female and there was no alternative in his creation.
 

Flava22

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No judgement here. I do agree with you about this. My personal experience I remember when I wanted to change my sex to be a male, but I'm glad I didn't because it would not have resolved anything. I was going through a crisis as a teenager and felt I couldn't be myself as a woman and wasn't accepted. But when I came to my senses and truly talked to God and found out my problem was my self esteem and thankfully I accepted myself as a loving woman and didn't go that direction
 

Dino246

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I suspect that there is a range of factors leading someone to embrace transgenderism. It certainly isn't consistent with God's design.

I wouldn't argue that the enemy is all over this, but I think there is more going on than simply spiritual deception. One 'cause' I believe needs scientific attention is hormonal upset caused by junk in our food and environment... endocrine disrupting chemicals that actually mess with the physical and mental development of our young people, causing changes in their bodies that they cannot control or even understand. They are still male or female, but certain aspects of their physiology and even their own perception of themselves are actually altered at the cellular level to the point that some "normal" gender-specific tendencies are suppressed.

I won't try to explain my point further, but I will state that people who are dealing with this are just as much in need of compassion, prayer, love, and the gospel as anyone else. If my suspicion is valid, I'd suggest these folks need grace all the more.
 

posthuman

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Both my niece and my father-in-law

Neither are saved; both are horribly confused

This is my data
 

Snacks

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But when I came to my senses and truly talked to God
That’s the difference between you and today’s marxists who don’t know God and aren’t in their right mind. I rejoice that you have peace. 🙏
 

Ted01

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That’s the difference between you and today’s marxists who don’t know God and aren’t in their right mind. I rejoice that you have peace. 🙏
This is it!! "who don’t know God and aren’t in their right mind"

I think that it's essential for Christians to really realize the fact that people who don't know God - and sometimes reject Him with violent emotion - are simply folks without knowledge and understanding. From our perspective, they are indeed "not in their right mind".

@ Tim. 2:24-26 (ESV)
24 And the Lord's servant must not be quarrelsome but kind to everyone, able to teach, patiently enduring evil, 25 correcting his opponents with gentleness. God may perhaps grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth, 26 and they may come to their senses and escape from the snare of the devil, after being captured by him to do his will.
 

Nehemiah6

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I wouldn't argue that the enemy is all over this, but I think there is more going on than simply spiritual deception.
The recent cult of transgenderism needs to be related to the increased demonic and Satanist activity in the West. Even Vladimir Putin -- of all people -- has recognized this and called out the Western countries.

'President Vladimir Putin cast Russia Thursday as a defender of conservative values against the "genderless and infertile" Western tolerance that he said equates good and evil.'
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/putin-defends-russia-s-conservative-values-chides-west-1.2460933

‘A perverted religion, outright Satanism': Putin attacks the West while praising Russian values

WESTERN 'SATANISM'
"Now they have moved on entirely, to a radical denial of moral norms, religion, and family ...

"The dictatorship of the Western elites is directed against all societies, including the peoples of the Western countries themselves. This is a challenge to all. This is a complete denial of humanity, the overthrow of faith and traditional values. Indeed, the suppression of freedom itself has taken on the features of a religion: outright Satanism."
https://www.reuters.com/world/extracts-putins-speech-annexation-ceremony-2022-09-30/

There is no question that ever since Obama's presidency, the national resources of the USA have been ILLEGALLY used to promote transgenderism, homosexuality, and abortion. How else would so many clinics have the funding to start mutilating little kids and teens? And one does not hear anything more about opposition to the Muslim custom of mutilating girls any more.

When a government blatantly flies a gay pride rainbow flag from its buildings worldwide, then there is bound to be an evil outcome. The US military has also become a part of this Woke anti-culture. And Satanists in America have publicly declared that abortion is a Satanist ritual. Well so is transgender mutilation. Satan wants people to be confused about everything so that evil is seen as good, and good as evil.
 

Blade

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Lol some times I have watched "Kevin Nealon". He does this hick. I forget who he was with some actress comedian but looks over smiles says your a....is ok if I call you a girl right?" Both laugh. But the fact he ask. Now I don't know if he was just playing but.. wow
 

mustaphadrink

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I suspect that there is a range of factors leading someone to embrace transgenderism. It certainly isn't consistent with God's design.

I wouldn't argue that the enemy is all over this, but I think there is more going on than simply spiritual deception. One 'cause' I believe needs scientific attention is hormonal upset caused by junk in our food and environment... endocrine disrupting chemicals that actually mess with the physical and mental development of our young people, causing changes in their bodies that they cannot control or even understand. They are still male or female, but certain aspects of their physiology and even their own perception of themselves are actually altered at the cellular level to the point that some "normal" gender-specific tendencies are suppressed.

I won't try to explain my point further, but I will state that people who are dealing with this are just as much in need of compassion, prayer, love, and the gospel as anyone else. If my suspicion is valid, I'd suggest these folks need grace all the more.
As yet I have not seen any experts laying it at the feet of endocrine-disrupting chemicals.

As to your last POINT everyone who needs to discover the risen Christ needs compassion.
 

Komentaja

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Good thread, this thing is exploding.
One thing ive always wondered though, these transgender "women"....... why do they still "perform the duties of a man" so to speak, in the bedroom? Not that I care what people do in their bedrooms, but im just wondering because if you are claiming to be a WOMAN............ thats not what women do.

Reason I bring this up is not to just be obscene, but to point out the fact that MANY transgenders are simply just PERVERTS who like to play dress up while still being and operating as a man.
 

Dino246

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As yet I have not seen any experts laying it at the feet of endocrine-disrupting chemicals.
Fair point, but I haven't heard "experts" blame anything on edc's. I suspect most of the "experts" are in the pockets of the big chemical companies anyway.
 
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As yet I have not seen any experts laying it at the feet of endocrine-disrupting chemicals.

As to your last POINT everyone who needs to discover the risen Christ needs compassion.
"Experts"? Lol. Take the money out of the equation, and see who's left, and you'll hear your experts. Until then, it's the wolves guarding the flock.
 

HeIsHere

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even their own perception of themselves are actually altered at the cellular level to the point that some "normal" gender-specific tendencies are suppressed.
How would this work at a cellular level?

Is there research?
 

mustaphadrink

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Yesterday there was a full-page article on the subject in my daily newspaper. Apparently, the whole transgender edifice is crumbling. Experts involved are questioning what they are doing and pointing out that the problem is not gender dysphoria, it is things like morbidity in other areas such as Aspergers, a poor self-image, sexual assault when younger, and a family situation that leaves a lot to be desired.

They admitted things like beta blockers and hormone therapy are experimental and are not to be used until they have been tested and proven to solve the problem.

They are questioning their right to do a sex change without their parent's approval.

On top of all that those wanting a sex change are finding out, it doesn't solve the problems they have so they de transitioning.

I guess God got it right when he created male and female.
 

mailmandan

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God created Adam and Eve and not Adam and Steve. Satan is behind the distortion of the genders. Rebellion against God.
 
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Nehemiah6

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Apparently, the whole transgender edifice is crumbling.
That may be another attempt at gaslighting. If anything this transgender trend is growing by leaps and bounds since there is money to be made and there has been little or no resistance and criticism to this evil. Now the transgenders are being hailed as heroes while men pretending to be women assault young girls and actual women. There is not a single jurisdiction that has placed a total ban on those evil operations, or the puberty blockers etc that are destroying people.